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Fiscal Cliff Raw Deal: Workers making $30,000 to take bigger hit than those earning $500,000

 
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Fiscal Cliff Raw Deal: Workers making $30,000 to take bigger hit than those earning $500,000
Middle-class workers will take a bigger hit to their income proportionately than those earning between $200,000 and $500,000 under the new fiscal cliff deal, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center.

Earners in the latter group will pay an average 1.3 percent more - or an additional $2,711 - in taxes this year, while workers making between $30,000 and $200,000 will see their paychecks shrink by as much as 1.7 percent - or up to $1,784 - the D.C.-based think tank reported.

Overall, nearly 80 percent of households will pay more money to the federal government as a result of the fiscal cliff deal.

When the deal was passed by Congress late Tuesday, President Obama said it prevented 'a middle class take hike that could have sent the economy back into recession' and have a 'severe impact' on American families.
'Under this law, more than 98 percent of Americans and 97 percent of small businesses will not see their income taxes go up,' he said.

To the contrary, the Tax Policy Center says roughly 70 percent of Americans will see their income taxes rise as a result of the deal. They won't rise as much as they would have if no deal had been reached and the fiscal cliff was triggered, but they will go up nonetheless.


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How is punishing hard working people good?
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"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

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Thanks to Republitards.
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Thanks to Republitards.
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Thanks to politicians
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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Thanks to Republitards.
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Thanks to politicians
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And if you want to blame republicans, then why did Obama claim victory?
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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Thanks to Republitards.
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Barack, is that you?
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Thanks to Republitards.
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No country can tax itself into prosperity, contrary to the general public's belief. The higher taxes go, the more businesses lay off workers or shutdown and reduce tax receipts. Anyway, since countries aren't lending us money anymore, and so the FED is monetizing over $1 trillion of debt a year, we're all going to pay a whole lot more in terms of the inflation tax. And the inflation tax effects 100% of households. There is no free lunch.
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Thanks to Republitards.
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Thanks to politicians
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


And if you want to blame republicans, then why did Obama claim victory?
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant

Like Republicans aren't tools of the rich.

If you don't realize that, you're more delusional than I thought.

Bow down to your millionaire masters, Republipukes.
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Anyone that thinks Obama is championing the rights of the middle class is absolutely void of any critical thinking skills!
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Thanks to Republitards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31470417


Thanks to politicians
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


And if you want to blame republicans, then why did Obama claim victory?
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant

Like Republicans aren't tools of the rich.

If you don't realize that, you're more delusional than I thought.

Bow down to your millionaire masters, Republipukes.
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Yeah, like George Soros for example?

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"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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Anyone that thinks Obama is championing the rights of the middle class is absolutely void of any critical thinking skills!
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And anyone who thinks the Republicans are, even less.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff Raw Deal: Workers making $30,000 to take bigger hit than those earning $500,000
Thanks to Republitards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31470417


Thanks to politicians
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


And if you want to blame republicans, then why did Obama claim victory?
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant

Like Republicans aren't tools of the rich.

If you don't realize that, you're more delusional than I thought.

Bow down to your millionaire masters, Republipukes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31470417


Just keep deflecting blame! You know Obama only cares about Obama, yet you think it's only Republicans that are the problem. Just admit you man child President is a douche bag!
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Anyone that thinks Obama is championing the rights of the middle class is absolutely void of any critical thinking skills!
 Quoting: LimaIndiaSierra


And anyone who thinks the Republicans are, even less.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31470417


Neither do! But you won't admit that Obama is and his party are just as much to blame! Just keep projecting! That's all you Obamatards know!
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The worst part is, as long as the democrats keep spending like drunken whores, our taxes will continue to rise. I wonder how many of these Liberal idiots don't realize this? That someone will need to pay for this spending spree? Did they think that only the wealthy would cover this? It's really pissing me off. This and the gun thing. We are going downhill so quickly now, it's frustrating.
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Thanks to Republitards.
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up yours MOFO

each member of the senate will get whats comming for them soon enough
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Anyone that thinks Obama is championing the rights of the middle class is absolutely void of any critical thinking skills!
 Quoting: LimaIndiaSierra


And anyone who thinks the Republicans are, even less.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31470417


Neither do! But you won't admit that Obama is and his party are just as much to blame! Just keep projecting! That's all you Obamatards know!
 Quoting: LimaIndiaSierra


ohyeah
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

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The worst part is, as long as the democrats keep spending like drunken whores, our taxes will continue to rise. I wonder how many of these Liberal idiots don't realize this? That someone will need to pay for this spending spree? Did they think that only the wealthy would cover this? It's really pissing me off. This and the gun thing. We are going downhill so quickly now, it's frustrating.
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In their eyes, Obama can do no wrong. At least those of us that aren't sheep can see that both parties are to blame.
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The worst part is, as long as the democrats keep spending like drunken whores, our taxes will continue to rise. I wonder how many of these Liberal idiots don't realize this? That someone will need to pay for this spending spree? Did they think that only the wealthy would cover this? It's really pissing me off. This and the gun thing. We are going downhill so quickly now, it's frustrating.
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The takers only know how to take, they have no desire or want to even learn how an economy works. As long as they keep receiving, they don't care where it comes from. That it who the democrats pander to.

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"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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The worst part is, as long as the democrats keep spending like drunken whores, our taxes will continue to rise. I wonder how many of these Liberal idiots don't realize this? That someone will need to pay for this spending spree? Did they think that only the wealthy would cover this? It's really pissing me off. This and the gun thing. We are going downhill so quickly now, it's frustrating.
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The takers only know how to take, they have no desire or want to even learn how an economy works. As long as they keep receiving, they don't care where it comes from. That it who the democrats pander to.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


So keep defending tax cuts for the rich, and it will all trickle down, like a bus stop urinal.
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No one believed me back in october/november when I was saying that the low income and gays will be targeted soon.

Well, now the low income are being targeted. Gays next on the chopping block.

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The worst part is, as long as the democrats keep spending like drunken whores, our taxes will continue to rise. I wonder how many of these Liberal idiots don't realize this? That someone will need to pay for this spending spree? Did they think that only the wealthy would cover this? It's really pissing me off. This and the gun thing. We are going downhill so quickly now, it's frustrating.
 Quoting: Etta


The takers only know how to take, they have no desire or want to even learn how an economy works. As long as they keep receiving, they don't care where it comes from. That it who the democrats pander to.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


So keep defending tax cuts for the rich, and it will all trickle down, like a bus stop urinal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31470417


I am not defending tax cuts for the rich, although I do think that they are the ones who employ the most people. What I am concerned about is the tax increases on the middle class, and the sad state of jobs and what the jobs are now paying. The more money the rich lose to taxes, well that crap will trickle down onto the heads of the middle class.
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It's amazing how zero lies over and over again and the same people are fooled every time. It's over for this country.....
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They didn't cut anything like they said they would. They just kicked the can down the road which means your money will buy even less.
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The worst part is, as long as the democrats keep spending like drunken whores, our taxes will continue to rise. I wonder how many of these Liberal idiots don't realize this? That someone will need to pay for this spending spree? Did they think that only the wealthy would cover this? It's really pissing me off. This and the gun thing. We are going downhill so quickly now, it's frustrating.
 Quoting: Etta


The takers only know how to take, they have no desire or want to even learn how an economy works. As long as they keep receiving, they don't care where it comes from. That it who the democrats pander to.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


So keep defending tax cuts for the rich, and it will all trickle down, like a bus stop urinal.
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Nope, that's not the case, and that's not what I said. The "rich" that create the jobs are the ones being hurt. The ultra rich, like Soros/ Buffet, etc. didn't get touched.

This is a burden on small businesses and the middle class, just like everything Obama does.
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

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I make less than $50,000 (before taxes) a year and in my first paycheck of this year my taxes skyrocketed by 14%

Fuck that stupid muzzie piece of shit.
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I'm also paying more for health insurance and getting much less coverage, so my already high medical bills are going through the roof along with all other costs of living going up.

I'm still making the same as last year, but getting several thousand dollars less now...
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All because the wealthiest dont want to pay their fair share so they held congress hostage just to save a bit

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