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REPUBLICAN SENATOR: We Might Need To Shut Down The Government To Get 'Fiscal Sanity'!!!

 
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Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) argued in a Houston Chronicle op-ed this morning that a partial government shutdown might be necessary to "restore fiscal sanity," slamming President Barack Obama for using fiscal deadlines as political brinkmanship.

In his op-ed, Cornyn highlighted three looming fights to come before the end of March — the debt ceiling, the sequester, and the continuing appropriations resolution that provides funding for the federal government.

Cornyn wrote that it is "unacceptable" that Obama has said he won't negotiate over the debt ceiling:

[Obama] has already signaled an unwillingness to negotiate over the debt ceiling. This is unacceptable. The president should immediately put forward a plan that addresses these deadlines, and he should launch serious, transparent budget negotiations.

The biggest fiscal problem in Washington is excessive spending, not insufficient taxation. Tax cuts didn't cause this problem, so tax increases won't solve it. If we don't reduce spending and reform our three biggest entitlement programs — Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security — then we will strangle economic growth, destroy jobs and reduce our standard of living. With the national debt above $16 trillion, and with more than $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities hanging over us, our toughest fiscal decisions cannot be postponed any longer.

Cornyn concluded his op-ed by writing that a partial shutdown might be necessary "to secure the long-term fiscal well being of our country."

Obama and others have argued that using the debt ceiling as a negotiation tactic is unacceptable. He wanted an increase in the debt ceiling to be part of a fiscal cliff deal. But even though he didn't get that, he has said he would not negotiate over what he called a "weapon ... destroying our own credit rating."

"That is a bad strategy for America, it's a bad strategy for your businesses and it is not a game I will play," Obama said in remarks to business leaders in December. "We are not going to play that game again next year. We've got to break that habit before it starts."



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Good, let it shut down!
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Ignore what the media says, this is what America wants.
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Good, let it shut down!
 Quoting: LimaIndiaSierra


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Hopefully once the federal DC government is shut down it stays that way.
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Good for the Senator

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Hopefully once the federal DC government is shut down it stays that way.
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You may chose to believe it or or not, but this is a legitimate concern.

All organizations that use force to accomplish their ends have rituals designed to keep the organization going for fear that they might not be needed. C.O.G. (continuity of government) is more of a psychiatric personality disorder than a legitimate framework.

And EVERYONE associate with government, has it. including these politicians democrats and republicans. It is their way of life. Similar to "fraternities" in college like skull and bones where older members mentally, sexually, and physically abuse initiates. These rituals are required to keep the organization (not the people) alive and relevant even if they are not.
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looks like our good senator is getting the message and our mail.

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blwkss

Ignore what the media says, this is what America wants.
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I do believe that you're right, Samantha! Friends and neighbors I talk with pretty much agree that this current government is like the old jalopy that you have kept running for years with baling wire and bubble gum - eventually it needs to be taken to the garage mechanic for a complete overhaul, to be re-built from the ground up, or to be replaced with a more up-to-date vehicle.

All this Administration is doing is changing the brand of the bubble gum.
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They'll do anything to get another day off. Do it without pay. Lets see who is needed and who's there for the check.
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Essentially he and his friends are the (medusa head of that government) and YES shut it down. The executive branch can run things just fine without without them.
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Do yah think???? More like get rid of everyone and start again, this time with people WE choose.
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Do yah think???? More like get rid of everyone and start again, this time with people WE choose.
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Of course by get rid of, I mean fire...
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Essentially he and his friends are the (medusa head of that government) and YES shut it down. The executive branch can run things just fine without without them.
 Quoting: Northman


You do realize that its just not the congress and senate thats the problem. The executive and judicial are complacent in this as well.

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Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it."

Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.
"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency."
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Fuck yea!

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Essentially he and his friends are the (medusa head of that government) and YES shut it down. The executive branch can run things just fine without without them.
 Quoting: Northman


Ah yes The Wannabe Caesar and all of his unelected bureaucrats.


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Ask Newt how that worked out for him and the republicans in the 1990s.
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How did that petition to deport Piers Morgan get started?
Can someone here who understands this stuff work to get a similar petition going to shut down the government and suspend their pay and perks. We need something that can go outside GLP and reach the masses.
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the senator is wrong

the only way to get sanity back
in America is

Revolution

the elites are embedded in the system
through multiple layers of redundancy
of powers. all the blocks must fall
at once or else the wall is propped
up by another defense mechanism.
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RIGHT THIS MINUTE the Republicans need to pull out all the stops and ignite a media war on the national debt. They need to give speeches on TV pointing out the consequences and stressing that is a National security threat. Then they need to run ads that bring home the point to the sleeping sheeples. The ads should show the rioting in Greece and they should be stark. They could do another ad showing a little baby growing up and not having anywhere near the standard of living his parents enjoyed. Maybe the kid could trudge to work everyday to work in a factory owned and run by a Chinese boss. This is the the kind of thing that needed to be done before Obamacare was rammed through because many people did not (and still don't) understand what it will mean. If they just sit back and wait till the vote, it will be too late because the scare tactics put out by the Obama administration will once again make them succomb. People need to SEE real graphics and be bombarded with messages on the consequences of an ever-growing national debt and it needs to start now!
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I do not care if they FRY IN HELL!
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wag wag wag...guess who's the god in this scenario...american's government has fulfilled it's duty to the elite, it is time for it be sacrificed
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RIGHT THIS MINUTE the Republicans need to pull out all the stops and ignite a media war on the national debt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21426625


right this minute,
you are asleep.

the repugs have the same boss
as the demonrats.

stop buying into this left/right
false paradigm bullshit.
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hehe sorry i always write dog asgod and god as dog, damn dyslexia
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I understand what you are saying about the left/right paradigm, but they are not ALL like that. Marco Rubio for example. And the Tea Party Repubs.
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Shut that mutha dowwwwwwwwn!
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Shutting down the government would be a good idea, except for one thing: Whenever this has been attempted in the past, the gov't workers affected are all given time off, and then when the gov't finally starts up again, these same workers are all given back pay for the time they were off. So, they are basically given a tax-payer funded vacation. The debt continues to grow, and the deficit becomes ever larger. How can this help?
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Shutting down the government would be a good idea, except for one thing: Whenever this has been attempted in the past, the gov't workers affected are all given time off, and then when the gov't finally starts up again, these same workers are all given back pay for the time they were off. So, they are basically given a tax-payer funded vacation. The debt continues to grow, and the deficit becomes ever larger. How can this help?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5018963


Have you ever worked for the government? If so, you would understand that it is the only job that is a vacation.
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The biggest fiscal problem in Washington is excessive spending, not insufficient taxation. Tax cuts didn't cause this problem, so tax increases won't solve it.
 Quoting: Luisport


^^ This. OMG, THIS.

THIS is the mantra that needs to be repeated to the public, in the press, and to the politicians.

Please spread these 2 sentences on to everyone you know.
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Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, A sane politician, ... mass hysteria!

The world is truly coming to and end if we have actual relevant and logical thought in Washington.





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