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ATTENTION: HERE IS THE LIST OF GUNS TO BE BANNED, IF THEY DON'T JUST GO FOR ALL GUNS PERIOD!!

 
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ATTENTION: HERE IS THE LIST OF GUNS TO BE BANNED, IF THEY DON'T JUST GO FOR ALL GUNS PERIOD!!
here is a link to the partial list of Guns to be banned and the language that Mr. Holder is using to further that agenda. They will really stop at nothing less than a complete ban. They want a Civil War in my opinion.

[link to rense.com]

A partial list of gun rights groups:

Gun Owners of America
[link to gunowners.org]

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
[link to www.jpfo.org]

FREEDOM=GUNS
[link to www.tcsn.net]

National Rifle Association
[link to www.nra.org]

Second Amendment Committee
[link to www.libertygunrights.com]

Second Amendment Foundation
[link to www.saf.org]

Second Amendment Sisters
[link to www.2asisters.org]

Women Against Gun Control
[link to www.wagc.com]
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Re: ATTENTION: HERE IS THE LIST OF GUNS TO BE BANNED, IF THEY DON'T JUST GO FOR ALL GUNS PERIOD!!
Part of the language in this ban basically states that any gun that has been used by law enforcement or the military are banned as well, which, pretty much rules out everything. Glocks, 38 Specials, Shotguns. This is a sweeping, blanketing proposed list.
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~ Benjamin Franklin.
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Re: ATTENTION: HERE IS THE LIST OF GUNS TO BE BANNED, IF THEY DON'T JUST GO FOR ALL GUNS PERIOD!!
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.
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Liberty is a
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Re: ATTENTION: HERE IS THE LIST OF GUNS TO BE BANNED, IF THEY DON'T JUST GO FOR ALL GUNS PERIOD!!
Here is my thread about this from April 2011. A little in advance of this current situation I would say. No one believed me back then though.


Thread: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar' Read more: Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar'
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Liberty is a
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contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.
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No one believed me back then though.
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We remember the 94-04 ban quite well, thank you.
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No one i know will turn them in.And local leo will not CONFISCATE them
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After that Benghazi crap, I'll bet a lot of military will refuse to confiscate firearms. I think the cats out of the bag.....
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Re: ATTENTION: HERE IS THE LIST OF GUNS TO BE BANNED, IF THEY DON'T JUST GO FOR ALL GUNS PERIOD!!
Added a link to this thread on my ongoing timeline here:

Thread: USA Gun Control Timeline, a social experiment...Post Sandy Hook to Present

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After that Benghazi crap, I'll bet a lot of military will refuse to confiscate firearms. I think the cats out of the bag.....
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That's why we've been hearing rumors for the past few years about the number of foreign troops - thousands - being brought here for "training".

Wouldn't it be cheaper to send the handful of our trainers over to their country?

So they must be here for other reasons.
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After that Benghazi crap, I'll bet a lot of military will refuse to confiscate firearms. I think the cats out of the bag.....
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here kitty kitty kitty, meow.
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No one i know will turn them in.And local leo will not CONFISCATE them
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american citizens will not allow it to happen period.

but they will make it so you cant get the ammunition
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Before this even gets a foot hold, every gun group should be preparing with lawyers to drag this out in court in every state and federal court. Any government rep helping to pass this should be sent packing as a traitor to the constitution.
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After that Benghazi crap, I'll bet a lot of military will refuse to confiscate firearms. I think the cats out of the bag.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


That's why we've been hearing rumors for the past few years about the number of foreign troops - thousands - being brought here for "training".

Wouldn't it be cheaper to send the handful of our trainers over to their country?

So they must be here for other reasons.
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hearing about it?? I can verify it personally.
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voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
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Before this even gets a foot hold, every gun group should be preparing with lawyers to drag this out in court in every state and federal court. Any government rep helping to pass this should be sent packing as a traitor to the constitution.
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The obama tard will just sign it into law on "Executive order Fridays".
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voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
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~ Benjamin Franklin.
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After that Benghazi crap, I'll bet a lot of military will refuse to confiscate firearms. I think the cats out of the bag.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28870983


That's why we've been hearing rumors for the past few years about the number of foreign troops - thousands - being brought here for "training".

Wouldn't it be cheaper to send the handful of our trainers over to their country?

So they must be here for other reasons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22687793


We send trainers to other countries as well, but outside troops come here and train to quell civil unrest under the gize of it being carried out in their countries.
"Democracy is two
wolves and a lamb
voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
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contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.
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No one i know will turn them in.And local leo will not CONFISCATE them
 Quoting: ar-15 nut


NO.

It would be more accurate to state that you believe that no one you know will turn their firearms in. To be sure, many talk but will turn them in regardless.

You will believe these people, much like local LEO's, to be your friends. Indeed, they may be when things are going well.

However, your "friends" will turn on you if they are in any type of danger. For example, a friend attempts to bury an illegal firearm and is discovered. Instead of jail time, losing their retirement and family, they are offered a deal to "turn in" someone else. That will eventually be you because you speak too much. You will be offered the same deal, and so on.

As for your misplaced faith in local LEO's, this will be proven as folly for anyone who emulates you. When threatened with a complete funding cut-off and replacement by DHS on a permanent basis, they will turn on you in a moment.

They will lose the entire police department, they will lose their easy government jobs. The worst thing is that they will be "blackballed". An entire career wasted as they are permanently stripped of their credentials and firearms carry permit. They will not be able to get work as a mall security guard when they are done.

Do you seriously believe that your local LEO's will gladly work the rest of their lives at fast food third shift so that YOU may keep a few of your firearms on a banned list?
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No one i know will turn them in.And local leo will not CONFISCATE them
 Quoting: ar-15 nut


NO.

It would be more accurate to state that you believe that no one you know will turn their firearms in. To be sure, many talk but will turn them in regardless.

You will believe these people, much like local LEO's, to be your friends. Indeed, they may be when things are going well.

However, your "friends" will turn on you if they are in any type of danger. For example, a friend attempts to bury an illegal firearm and is discovered. Instead of jail time, losing their retirement and family, they are offered a deal to "turn in" someone else. That will eventually be you because you speak too much. You will be offered the same deal, and so on.

As for your misplaced faith in local LEO's, this will be proven as folly for anyone who emulates you. When threatened with a complete funding cut-off and replacement by DHS on a permanent basis, they will turn on you in a moment.

They will lose the entire police department, they will lose their easy government jobs. The worst thing is that they will be "blackballed". An entire career wasted as they are permanently stripped of their credentials and firearms carry permit. They will not be able to get work as a mall security guard when they are done.

Do you seriously believe that your local LEO's will gladly work the rest of their lives at fast food third shift so that YOU may keep a few of your firearms on a banned list?
 Quoting: 535 1326993


I would have to agree
"Democracy is two
wolves and a lamb
voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
well-armed lamb
contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.

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