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WHOA! Lawmaker introduces BILL to publish NAMES, ADDRESSES of ALL 170,000 gun permit holders in Connecticut !!

 
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Nice way to enable criminals with access to this information to know who to avoid and who is unarmed and defenseless. 9 out of 10 times a criminal will pick an easy, unarmed target over someone they believe is armed. Black is white, good is bad, up is down.
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This is what you get when you ask the Government for permission.

When CCW permits were first talked about in my state, some older generation told me, its just a form of registration. When they start taking the guns away, those with permits will be the first ones disarmed.

I doubt any of those men would

1. Ask permission.

2. Give up their guns if they were here today.

Trusting Government/politicians was never on their list of priorities why it is today for most people is beyond me.
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Every action deserves an equal and opposite reaction.

How about we print the names and addresses of all the doctors and women involved with murdering their innocent children through the deplorable act of abortion.

At least this group have already demonstrated both their desire and ability to kill.
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Every action deserves an equal and opposite reaction.

How about we print the names and addresses of all the doctors and women involved with murdering their innocent children through the deplorable act of abortion.

At least this group have already demonstrated both their desire and ability to kill.
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You know, I saw that comment on another site...as sick as abortion is, it is considered legal but it would be considered similar in the sense that both types of people (gun permit holders, those that have had abortions) are law abiding citizens.
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Connecticut State Representative Stephen D. Dargan (D-New Haven), co-chairman of the state’s Public Safety Committee, has introduced a bill that would make public the names and addresses of gun permit holders in Connecticut under the state’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

Dargan’s bill is in response to the Dec. 14th shootings in the Sandy Hook School in Newtown, CT, and also occurs as a Westchester County, NY newspaper, the Journal News, is drawing widespread, nationwide anger for publishing a map with the names and addresses of gun permit holders. The bill, if passed, would reverse the state legislature’s decision, made nearly two decades ago, to protect gun permit holders' personal information from disclosure.

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“Most things are FOIA-able now,” Dargan said in an interview Thursday. ”Go to the local city clerk’s office and you can find out where Steve Dargan owns property. I don’t know why a responsible gun owner is worried about whether a permit for a revolver is FOIA-able or not.”

Dargan added that in a “computer age” it is reasonable for people to want to know gun ownership information. “Maybe their kids are going over to Johnny Smith’s and maybe they want to see whether they have guns in the house.”


More at [link to www.breitbart.com]
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so now the burglars can just pull out their smart phone and figure out where the easy targets are. brilliant.

chuckle
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Connecticut State Representative Stephen D. Dargan (D-New Haven), co-chairman of the state’s Public Safety Committee, has introduced a bill that would make public the names and addresses of gun permit holders in Connecticut under the state’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

Dargan’s bill is in response to the Dec. 14th shootings in the Sandy Hook School in Newtown, CT, and also occurs as a Westchester County, NY newspaper, the Journal News, is drawing widespread, nationwide anger for publishing a map with the names and addresses of gun permit holders. The bill, if passed, would reverse the state legislature’s decision, made nearly two decades ago, to protect gun permit holders' personal information from disclosure.

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“Most things are FOIA-able now,” Dargan said in an interview Thursday. ”Go to the local city clerk’s office and you can find out where Steve Dargan owns property. I don’t know why a responsible gun owner is worried about whether a permit for a revolver is FOIA-able or not.”

Dargan added that in a “computer age” it is reasonable for people to want to know gun ownership information. “Maybe their kids are going over to Johnny Smith’s and maybe they want to see whether they have guns in the house.”


More at [link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


so now the burglars can just pull out their smart phone and figure out where the easy targets are. brilliant.

chuckle
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Criminals can't break into the home though if it has a "gun free zone" sign posted on the property.
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That is an act of War.
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Where will this end? So now every possible freak journalist or really anyone can publish any public information into a map? So let's publish where all the retirees live? Maybe where all the patients who are on disability are so criminals know they can rob them with impunity? Maybe all the rape victims so they'll lose their privacy? Everyone who's fill in the blank.

Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should. That's the difference between the law and morals.
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Connecticut State Representative Stephen D. Dargan (D-New Haven), co-chairman of the state’s Public Safety Committee, has introduced a bill that would make public the names and addresses of gun permit holders in Connecticut under the state’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

Dargan’s bill is in response to the Dec. 14th shootings in the Sandy Hook School in Newtown, CT, and also occurs as a Westchester County, NY newspaper, the Journal News, is drawing widespread, nationwide anger for publishing a map with the names and addresses of gun permit holders. The bill, if passed, would reverse the state legislature’s decision, made nearly two decades ago, to protect gun permit holders' personal information from disclosure.

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“Most things are FOIA-able now,” Dargan said in an interview Thursday. ”Go to the local city clerk’s office and you can find out where Steve Dargan owns property. I don’t know why a responsible gun owner is worried about whether a permit for a revolver is FOIA-able or not.”

Dargan added that in a “computer age” it is reasonable for people to want to know gun ownership information. “Maybe their kids are going over to Johnny Smith’s and maybe they want to see whether they have guns in the house.”


More at [link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


I personally didn't opt for one of these permits or in my state referred to as a CCL however I would suggest anyone looking to get one to submit for an address change a few months in advance....
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Connecticut State Representative Stephen D. Dargan (D-New Haven), co-chairman of the state’s Public Safety Committee, has introduced a bill that would make public the names and addresses of gun permit holders in Connecticut under the state’s Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).

Dargan’s bill is in response to the Dec. 14th shootings in the Sandy Hook School in Newtown, CT, and also occurs as a Westchester County, NY newspaper, the Journal News, is drawing widespread, nationwide anger for publishing a map with the names and addresses of gun permit holders. The bill, if passed, would reverse the state legislature’s decision, made nearly two decades ago, to protect gun permit holders' personal information from disclosure.

...

“Most things are FOIA-able now,” Dargan said in an interview Thursday. ”Go to the local city clerk’s office and you can find out where Steve Dargan owns property. I don’t know why a responsible gun owner is worried about whether a permit for a revolver is FOIA-able or not.”

Dargan added that in a “computer age” it is reasonable for people to want to know gun ownership information. “Maybe their kids are going over to Johnny Smith’s and maybe they want to see whether they have guns in the house.”


More at [link to www.breitbart.com]
 Quoting: Laura Bow


so now the burglars can just pull out their smart phone and figure out where the easy targets are. brilliant.

chuckle
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Criminals can't break into the home though if it has a "gun free zone" sign posted on the property.
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Yep, I heard they just turn around and leave...

lmao
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I truly cannot understand the line of thinking with this...wow.
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This is just wrong

These people have done nothing wrong, they have done nothing to deserve to be publicly harassed or whatever else the Acorn-like groups have planned for them

they have legally applied for and been given permits

the ones we need to worry about don't bother with permits, but this is a witch hunt, and the mob mentality has taken over

These permit holder are not guilty of any crime, it's not like publishing the name of convicted child molesters in a neighborhood

In the USA it used to be you were innocent before proven guilty, but you can't reason with a mob (or politicians trying to score cheap political points)
 Quoting: IssueX


Exactly.

The logic is retarded. Did those children at sandy hook go over someone's house who had a gun? No, the gun came to them.

And guess what? The criminals who bring guns to places, are criminals to begin with and I doubt have a gun permit. They get their guns illegally
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Look at it this way.

From now on, burglars will first check that page before they settle on a mark.
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This is really fucking stupid. Not only do criminals know where the guns aren't, but they also know where the guns are if they want (and are brave/stupid enough) to steal them.

If your kids going to play at someones house you should be ringing them and getting to know them anyway before letting your kid go there.

This is so fucking stupid.
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People,

Get on the horn!

You forget you can contact these treasonous traitor and tell them what you think!

Be outspoken!

Some of these idiots will back down when they think their job is on the line.
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Now the politicians and cops can be like the rest of us gun owners.

Do they have Castle law in Conn. ?

Or is it a fraud like the Stand your ground law in Florida....?

Somehow I think it will matter to them after their names get published.
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It's a list of houses NOT to go to.

Let them print it.
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I live here in CT, and that is exactly what people here are saying.

Even radio call-in show hosts are saying this - now the criminals will know which homes are homes of non-gun owners.

Can't believe how fucking stupid politicians are. This is shocking even for that breed of assholes.

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Someone should add an amendment to require the publication of all women who get abortions.

Since when did the left get so serious about protecting life?
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I once had to leave an abusive relationship. I moved to an unknown address to hide out and I bought a gun. Imagine had the STATE publicised my address and my ex found me just because a bunch of assholes want to be dick heads.

How many people are law abiding and WILL BE adversly effected by this TREASONOUS GOVERNMENT?
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IM SURROUNDED BY ZOMBIES. MENTALLY DEAD ASLEEP FUCKTARDS. WE ALREADY GOT OUR 1ST AMENDMENT TAKEN AWAY BECAUSE OF 9/11. NOW SANDY HOOK ANOTHER 'FALSE FLAG' TO TAKE AWAY OUR 2ND AMENDMENT. I WATCHED THE NEWS AND 5 ARTICLES STRAIGHT, EVEN THE ONES THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GUNS, THEY BROUGHT IT UP! THEYRE BRAINWASHING THE SHEEPLES

I WILL FUCKING MOVE TO IRAN IF THEY LET THIS SHIT HAPPENS, AND ILL BE BURNING AMERICAN FLAGS TOO, IF MORE OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS ARE VIOLATED AND OUR AMENDMENTS TURNED VOID.

ITS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS WHATS HAPPENING AND JUST BY SAYING THE WORD CONSPIRACY DUMBASS SHEEPLES DONT EVEN THINK TWICE THEY THINK WE ARE THE CRAZY ONES!!!!!!

THAT THE EQUIVALENT TO 1% OF THE POPULATION CAN DOMINATE AND CONTROL THE 99% JUST TELLS YOU WE REALLY ARE NOTHING BUT CATTLE.

like the story of the elephant who wont break the rope. a huge elephant is in a circus and a child asks why he wont just break the rope thats tying him down, he would easily be able to break it!!!

his father respnonds its because he's been conditioned. when he was little, the same rope would be used but back then he was too small to break the rope. he may have tried and tried and failed. once he grew up although now able to break the rope easily, he never tried anymore.

OH AMERICA, YOUR STATE SADDENS ME. THE LAND I ONCE ADORED, IS NOW JUST ANOTHER CORPORATION, JUST ANOTHER WALMART, AND NO LONGER HAS FREE CITIZENS BUT BRAINWASHED CONSUMERS.

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FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
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It's a list of houses NOT to go to.

Let them print it.
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I live here in CT, and that is exactly what people here are saying.

Even radio call-in show hosts are saying this - now the criminals will know which homes are homes of non-gun owners.

Can't believe how fucking stupid politicians are. This is shocking even for that breed of assholes.

rant
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Maybe the antigun A-holes will have more sympathy for Dr. Petit whose wife and daughter were murdered by career criminals in Conn.

Lets have more brutal murders in Conn. prefererably on those who think everybody should be defenseless.

"fucking stupid politicians" - anti death penelty still. Or is it easier for them to be anti gun.

We'll see..... tomato
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SHOOT THE POLITICIANS THAT CALL FOR GUN CONTROL !!! there you go problem solved. Theyll either die or live and want to buy a gun for defense.
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REVOLUTION
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will not be televised.

the beginning is near.
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How about publishing the names and addresses of all the lawmakers... with a map. chuckle
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Every action deserves an equal and opposite reaction.

How about we print the names and addresses of all the doctors and women involved with murdering their innocent children through the deplorable act of abortion.

At least this group have already demonstrated both their desire and ability to kill.
 Quoting: ClydeX


You know, I saw that comment on another site...as sick as abortion is, it is considered legal but it would be considered similar in the sense that both types of people (gun permit holders, those that have had abortions) are law abiding citizens.
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But considered legal by whom? A corrupt, Godless society? There has to be a line where we, as a people, must reclaim our own morality and make a stand for what is right, as well as a stand against what is wrong. If you saw a similar reference on another site - then fantastic; at least some folks are seeing how skewed our world has become.

Christ said "...let he who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one." He never said "let whomever will be inconvenienced by the responsibilities of their actions kill their children". Actually, He did say "...suffer unto me the little children".

We need a change in that people remember Joshua, who, in essence, made his stand against a king (government) that had issued a decree (law) that threatened his very life, and the lives of his family for his beliefs and stated "...As for me and my house, we shall serve the Lord". Where has that gone?

For a more secular reference; define a society that lobbies their government to "save the whales", while in the same breath lobbies for the opportunity to kill their own children. What sort of crazy, topsy-turvy, twilight zone world have we allowed to be created around us?

To lump both firearms owners and abortionists in the same category because both actions are currently "legal" is nothing short of exhibiting the very conditioning that the current government wants. To penalize firearms owners for what someone "might" do is nothing less than preemptive/ assumptive thought-crime. The abortionists, however, HAVE ALREADY KILLED CHILDREN - and their own children at that. Just how evil, self-centered, and irresponsible does a person have to be in order to kill their own child?

Yet, though the loudest cry we hear for the justification to further infringe the populous' right and opportunity to protect themselves, their families, and their property is simply that mantra: "For the children".

Firearms owners, by and large, have committed no crime, and especially no crime against their own families. Those who comprise the less than 0.1% that have/ do are then punished through the courts and penal system. In addition; the honest, law-abiding firearms owners are usually the first in line to see through the punishment of those who injure or kill others through irresponsible or otherwise societal destructive actions.

Abortionist, although they HAVE committed murder, however, are heralded for their position. They are labeled as "strong", "brave", and "ground breaking for women's rights" as they kill children. Since 1973, when abortion was first labeled in this country as "legal", approximately ~60,000,000 children have been voluntarily killed in this country alone through the deplorable act of abortion.

For a few points of reference; the current population of Denver, Co. is ~3,000,000, and the population of New York City is around ~10,000,000. So as this act is swept under the carpet for the Godless, society destroying act it is - try to imagine the entire population of Denver being killed - 20 TIMES OVER, or the entire population of NYC being killed - 6 TIMES OVER, and such genocidal acts being heralded as "brave", or "ground breaking for women's rights". I really can't conceive a world in which that would happen, yet we have accepted this very position when it comes to killing our un-born children.

To summarize; abortionist, without compromise, shame, or exception, have openly exhibited their desire (often militantly), their willingness, and even their capability to kill our children and are exalted for their position. The owners of firearms, by and large, have exhibited their desire to ensure the safety of their families, their homes, and even their neighbors and the country as a whole - and are now being demonized for their position.

In contrast; if a sect of society has exhibited the aforementioned desire and ability to kill defenseless, un-born children, and that same sect comprises the majority of those calling for measures that would leave you and the rest of society in such defenseless state, what do you imagine their end-game would be? Let me help: TO RULE YOU. TO CONTROL YOU. And, if necessary or convenient; TO KILL YOU.

I believe we are at a point where when the rule of law that defines the killing of defenseless, innocent, un-born children as "legal", then we no longer have any validity associated with the balance of said rule.

Godspeed to all who are here.
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This is brilliant asshattery at its' finest.

Now the criminals will simply burglarize homes that do NOT have guns in the home, as evidenced by the lack of a permit at the specified address.

Hopefully the victims are libtards who decry the use of firearms for any reason.
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I know huh. Wouldn't it be hilarious if it backfired on them?

Thugs could look at that map and hit (Home invasions) the homes that are NOT red dots.

:Dooooh!:
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Stanley knew all about it how it works,
no guns, but a little of the "ultra-violence" -
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DUMB! So, if I was a criminal living in that area, I would now increase my chances of omitting crime by avoiding the houses on the list. Technically , this bill pinpoints who is potentially vulnerable and defenseless. Would not be surprised to see a huge wave of gun sales...

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