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aliens definitely exist, but the chances of them visiting us is extremely slim. here's why...

 
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Re: aliens definitely exist, but the chances of them visiting us is extremely slim. here's why...
There is zero evidence of other life elsewhere, and there is zero evidence for materialistic evolution. It is unscientific and illogical. It is not based on logic. On the contrary, logic dictates...nay..demands..a supernatural, non material (Spiritual) Creator.

Throw away logic if you will, but don't then presume to claim that logic supports your beliefs, because it doesn't.

Just the existence of 'information' as a non material entity confines all materialistic evolution to the garbage bin.

You are free to believe whatever you want, once you throw away logic. For an example...if you are interested...see this video. It is part 2 in a 6 part series.


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Did you just say that logic dictates that there is all all-mighty creator?

Wow.

You sir, need to lay off the church. You're preaching like a certified bibletard.

How is a creator logical?

Please, explain. I need a good laugh.
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Re: aliens definitely exist, but the chances of them visiting us is extremely slim. here's why...
You are absolutely wrong. Logically and scientifically.

There is zero evidence of life other than here on earth.

Of course, you deny that...and you are going to show me (us) the evidence for your claim, since you state it so boldly, no?

There is no evidence. None.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


So are you of the opinion that if the world powers had evidence of extra-terrestrial life on other planes, they would openly and willingly tell you about it?

Seems to me the people who control the 'evidence' would not allow you to see such evidence if did indeed exist, so your call for evidence from members of the general public is a little disingenous.

If there was complete transparency and honesty among the leaders of our civilization, then your claim would be valid, but obviously we know that's not the case.
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Any scrap of evidence would vastly increase their prestige and also vastly increase their funding.

You really think there are thousands of scientists out there, trying to make a living...scratching their heads in frustration trying to offer some results of their life's work...and all this time they have the evidence, and are deliberately concealing it?

That does make for a great conspiracy, I'll grant you that.
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Admission of evidence would not increase prestige, it would challenge and disrupt the status quo and threaten TPTB's stranglehold on the population. Once it is understood that there is intelligent life visiting our planet with technology far greater than what we are permitted access to today, the public would begin to challenge the authority & credibility of those world leaders who are currently in power. They would no longer be the highest authority in the land.

Revelation of evidence of the existence of extra-terrestrial life would change EVERYTHING on this planet as far as the dynamic is concerned and TPTB fear that. They want status quo, they want to further the perception that everything is the same as it always was and moving along in an orderly and predictable fashion.

Admission of intelligent life that originates from outside of this planet would be a game-changer in so many ways. They don't want that, they fear such a thing.

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Re: aliens definitely exist, but the chances of them visiting us is extremely slim. here's why...
Seems to me the people who control the 'evidence' would not allow you to see such evidence if did indeed exist,
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC

Why?
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The operational mode for this planet is covert...

They, primarily orion and sirius have been here for thousands of years... They are responsible for genetically manipulating the planets inhabitants, and setting up hierarchial structures on this planet, where the true top of the pyramid is orion...

The lackies are all the fronts we see on this planet such as government, religious, and financial... They are covert through these fronts...

Why - several reasons... Prime one being a food source...

Orion is reptillian, they need blood... When a person dies, and the blood is drained from the body in preperation for burial, where does that blood go...

It is collected by thr red cross, but, you would not be able to trace it, to it's final destination... Much the same, as you not being able to get beyond government barriers to find out the alien presence on this planet...

Now you know why, it is so important that a burial happens within 3 days...
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There is zero evidence of other life elsewhere, and there is zero evidence for materialistic evolution. It is unscientific and illogical. It is not based on logic. On the contrary, logic dictates...nay..demands..a supernatural, non material (Spiritual) Creator.

Throw away logic if you will, but don't then presume to claim that logic supports your beliefs, because it doesn't.

Just the existence of 'information' as a non material entity confines all materialistic evolution to the garbage bin.

You are free to believe whatever you want, once you throw away logic. For an example...if you are interested...see this video. It is part 2 in a 6 part series.


 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Did you just say that logic dictates that there is all all-mighty creator?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27809228


I did.

Maybe if you watched the 6 part video it would go some way to your understanding of logic and how it relates to current scientific findings, and ultimately proves that there MUST be a Creator.

Any other conclusion is illogical. But you're welcome to hold on to an illogical position, if you need it so bad.
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Re: aliens definitely exist, but the chances of them visiting us is extremely slim. here's why...
When it was thought that everything revolved around the earth you could make a case that there was a "creator" of some sort.
But now we know that the earth is but one of nine planets in an insignificant solar system not even in the center
of the galaxy, but out in the boondocks in a scarcely populated sprial arm.
We live in a shack on the outskirts of town, you can see the lights of the "big city" from here.
Scientists have found so many precursors to life in space that its becoming increasingly popular to beleive that life on our planet got started by being "seeded" from space.
Whats funny is the poster that claims its "logical" to beleive in a creator when there's no real proof whatsoever
that this santa clause for adults actualy exists.
A;iens are out there, but its good that they do not know about us, we would not fare well in a meeting with them, ask an American indian if you think we would have a chance
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Re: aliens definitely exist, but the chances of them visiting us is extremely slim. here's why...
When it was thought that everything revolved around the earth you could make a case that there was a "creator" of some sort.
But now we know that the earth is but one of nine planets in an insignificant solar system not even in the center
of the galaxy, but out in the boondocks in a scarcely populated sprial arm.
We live in a shack on the outskirts of town, you can see the lights of the "big city" from here.
Scientists have found so many precursors to life in space that its becoming increasingly popular to beleive that life on our planet got started by being "seeded" from space.
Whats funny is the poster that claims its "logical" to beleive in a creator when there's no real proof whatsoever
that this santa clause for adults actualy exists.
A;iens are out there, but its good that they do not know about us, we would not fare well in a meeting with them, ask an American indian if you think we would have a chance
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Not only are aliens out there in abundance...

There is a group that have staked their claim to this planet many thousands of years ago...

This arm is heavily populated, and is considered orion territory...
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Re: aliens definitely exist, but the chances of them visiting us is extremely slim. here's why...
There is zero evidence of other life elsewhere, and there is zero evidence for materialistic evolution. It is unscientific and illogical. It is not based on logic. On the contrary, logic dictates...nay..demands..a supernatural, non material (Spiritual) Creator.

Throw away logic if you will, but don't then presume to claim that logic supports your beliefs, because it doesn't.

Just the existence of 'information' as a non material entity confines all materialistic evolution to the garbage bin.

You are free to believe whatever you want, once you throw away logic. For an example...if you are interested...see this video. It is part 2 in a 6 part series.


 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Did you just say that logic dictates that there is all all-mighty creator?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27809228


I did.

Maybe if you watched the 6 part video it would go some way to your understanding of logic and how it relates to current scientific findings, and ultimately proves that there MUST be a Creator.

Any other conclusion is illogical. But you're welcome to hold on to an illogical position, if you need it so bad.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


This galaxy, as well as the many neighboring galaxies have creator beings who brought the galaxy into existence... Different creator beings for each galaxy...

Galaxies for experiential learning... However, they are not the prime source... They are at a certain stage of progression, and have decided to become involved in galaxy creation...
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Re: aliens definitely exist, but the chances of them visiting us is extremely slim. here's why...
"They, primarily orion and sirius have been here for thousands of years... They are responsible for genetically manipulating the planets inhabitants, and setting up hierarchial structures on this planet, where the true top of the pyramid is orion..."

i have read much about this, and if true, then it is staggering that they came here when there was a choice of 400 billion stars in the milky way for them to visit.

if they did arrive, then they later left and went to check out other star systems, using their star-gate technology.
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Re: aliens definitely exist, but the chances of them visiting us is extremely slim. here's why...
considering the age and expanse of the universe, it's likely that there are incredibly advanced alien civilizations out there (much older than us) with star-gate technologies that allow instant inter-stellar travel. i mean, if our technology was allowed to evolve for another couple of thousand years, we too would be traveling to distant stars. but think about the almost infinite number of stars there are out there, and consider the odds of aliens coming here. the odds are very slim. our solar system is nothing but a grain of sand in the sahara desert. it's more likely that they don't even know we exist.

it could take millions or even billions of years for a visitation, but then they could also arrive here in the next hour.
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who told you that shit to you.
Humans think that this universe is only few billions of years old.That is fucking wrong.This universe is trillion trillions years old.
This is an artificial universe manufactured by highly evolved super intelligent aliens.They use this universe for a happy life and astral evolution of inferior spiritula beings like humans.
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Re: aliens definitely exist, but the chances of them visiting us is extremely slim. here's why...
Are you retarded?
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Re: aliens definitely exist, but the chances of them visiting us is extremely slim. here's why...
considering the age and expanse of the universe, it's likely that there are incredibly advanced alien civilizations out there (much older than us) with star-gate technologies that allow instant inter-stellar travel. i mean, if our technology was allowed to evolve for another couple of thousand years, we too would be traveling to distant stars. but think about the almost infinite number of stars there are out there, and consider the odds of aliens coming here. the odds are very slim. our solar system is nothing but a grain of sand in the sahara desert. it's more likely that they don't even know we exist.

it could take millions or even billions of years for a visitation, but then they could also arrive here in the next hour.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8822930

who told you that shit to you.
Humans think that this universe is only few billions of years old.That is fucking wrong.This universe is trillion trillions years old.
This is an artificial universe manufactured by highly evolved super intelligent aliens.They use this universe for a happy life and astral evolution of inferior spiritula beings like humans.
 Quoting: Star God


Yayyy, the truth.

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