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If Jesus Is God or Co-Equal to God Then Why...

 
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When Jesus Died on the cross and took on the sins of mankind did God the Father have to turn away and not look at his son because he is to HOLY to look upon sin, but yet Jesus could not only look upon sin but also take on all sin of mankind and it be nailed to the cross with him ?
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No... maybe this can help?

" the Father almighty,
Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
born of the Virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried;
he descended into hell;
on the third day he rose again from the dead
;
"

And then again the question arises, if Jesus is God or Co equal to God The Father, Why does the bible tell us that no man knows the day nor the hour of his return not even the SON but only God The FATHER if Jesus is God or equal to his Father?

BTW Im not a JW or claim any "religion" Just a Followr of the Gospel is all
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the unicorn?
if you mean the rhinoceros then yes, the bible is sound and infallible.
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So is the Bhagavad Gita and all other major religious holy books .

All religions but no religions
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


the bhagavad gita does not have centuries of fulfilled prophecy.
 Quoting: Salt


Doesn't make it any less infallible or sound

Even Nostradamus and Cayce predicted stuff way in advance if they wrote a book is it infallible.
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extremely weak argument. there were plenty of mythos penned. they were written by real people, yes. but it doesn't make it the word of God.

i will not argue with you.
i have my beliefs and you have yours.
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Listen, the bible says Jesus is the son of God. He isn't God. They are father and son.
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You don't understand yourself, calling Christ the Son simply implies where he came from.

churchlady
 Quoting: Children of the Atom


There is no "Son of God" without God possible. Unlike God without the Son. Got it?
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I don't believe my post was saying otherwise, but confused
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So is the Bhagavad Gita and all other major religious holy books .

All religions but no religions
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the bhagavad gita does not have centuries of fulfilled prophecy.
 Quoting: Salt


Doesn't make it any less infallible or sound

Even Nostradamus and Cayce predicted stuff way in advance if they wrote a book is it infallible.
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


extremely weak argument. there were plenty of mythos penned. they were written by real people, yes. but it doesn't make it the word of God.

i will not argue with you.
i have my beliefs and you have yours.
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Thanks at least you admit the Bhagavad Gita is infallible and the one true word of God and every other religous Holy Book including the Bible is the the one true word of God too


I recommend Thread: Bible Scholar Bart Ehrman Debates
REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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Thomas called him God and Jesus blessed him for it.
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Just curious. Can you quote Him? - Doubtful.
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Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
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WTF. The blessing??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


You have a filthy mouth so no doubt your heart is filthy

Jesus didnt rebuke Thomas but affirmed and condoned that Thomas believed that He was his Lord and God

Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed
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Just curious. Can you quote Him? - Doubtful.
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Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781997


WTF. The blessing??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


You have a filthy mouth so no doubt your heart is filthy

Jesus didnt rebuke Thomas but affirmed and condoned that Thomas believed that He was his Lord and God

Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed
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Again, where is the blessing?? WTF
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Sinaiticus and Vaticanus were not found until after the KJV was already written, so they are older and more original. They are considred to show just how much a bible can change over time.

The Masocretic texts that the modern bible is based on are obviously historically inferior to Sinaticus and Vatinicus which are far older.


5 modern interpretations of scripture that are supposed to be able to objectively be proven false- by most bible scholars.

1. The story of the woman who was to be stoned

2. modern understanding of the meaning of the trinity

3. Nazareth, Jesus the Nazarene refers to the Essenes not Nazareth

4. Mary Magdalene being a prostitute and not head disciple of Jesus

5. The original texts did not contain the resurrection
REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
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WTF. The blessing??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


You have a filthy mouth so no doubt your heart is filthy

Jesus didnt rebuke Thomas but affirmed and condoned that Thomas believed that He was his Lord and God

Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781997


Again, where is the blessing?? WTF
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Maybe you dont know english very well, giving someone there blessing simply means the gave or show approval which is what I believe Jesus did with His reply, sorry for any confusion
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First of all, Jesus DID NOT die on a cross, the cross was around long before Christ arrived, and is a representation of a Phallic symbol, something Christ would have never venerated. I laugh at all these people walking around with a Phallus around their necks, some even kissing it, some bowing before it, and- you answered your own quesion, these "false teachers" also teach that Jesus and God are the same within the "Trinity" also a teaching common among pagans before Christ. If you read the entire book of John, this is REALLY easy to see. If the "Trinity" was true, don't you think the word "Trinity" would be somewhere in the Bible?

Google "Origins of the Cross" and enjoy all the information available on the Phallic Symbol in ancient India,and elsewhere, and also it's ties to the Trinity belief. It is all out there, you just need to read and have an open mind.

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The answer is simple why Jesus knew not the day or the hour. The answer is that when Jesus came to this earth he divested himself of thoses quality that he had in heaven. He came to earth in our sinful nature. All the miracles he did was done by him praying to the Father and the Father giving him the holy spirit to do them.
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Sinaiticus and Vaticanus were not found until after the KJV was already written, so they are older and more original. They are considred to show just how much a bible can change over time.

The Masocretic texts that the modern bible is based on are obviously historically inferior to Sinaticus and Vatinicus which are far older.


5 modern interpretations of scripture that are supposed to be able to objectively be proven false- by most bible scholars.

1. The story of the woman who was to be stoned

2. modern understanding of the meaning of the trinity

3. Nazareth, Jesus the Nazarene refers to the Essenes not Nazareth

4. Mary Magdalene being a prostitute and not head disciple of Jesus

5. The original texts did not contain the resurrection
 Quoting: Aleph Tav


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REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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First of all, Jesus DID NOT die on a cross, the cross was around long before Christ arrived, and is a representation of a Phallic symbol, something Christ would have never venerated. I laugh at all these people walking around with a Phallus around their necks, some even kissing it, some bowing before it, and- you answered your own quesion, these "false teachers" also teach that Jesus and God are the same within the "Trinity" also a teaching common among pagans before Christ. If you read the entire book of John, this is REALLY easy to see. If the "Trinity" was true, don't you think the word "Trinity" would be somewhere in the Bible?

Google "Origins of the Cross" and enjoy all the information available on the Phallic Symbol in ancient India,and elsewhere, and also it's ties to the Trinity belief. It is all out there, you just need to read and have an open mind.
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REDEMPTION--"Is it a fact that Jesus Christ died for the sins of the world, and how is it proved? If a God, he could not die, and as a man he could not redeem." The Life and Works of Thomas Paine, Vol. 9, p. 85
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Who Cares? the great teacher tired of correcting Thomas him after His resurrection? That is seriously pathetic, unbelievable!
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Your ignoring of Jesus' precise words is what is pathetic. You have become boring.

It doesn't get simpler than this.

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

I have provided you with quote after quote after quote where Jesus plainly and specifically says he is sent by GOD and is working for GOD and doing GOD's will.

Obviously Jesus express teachings aren't good enough for you so please continue believing man made doctrine.

Are you really a Christian? You don't seem to trust Jesus enough.

So who cares if you want to follow man made doctrine...

All will be revealed at some time.
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You provided nothing that makes your point, Thomas called him God and Jesus blessed him for it. You being bored as an excuse to say Thomas was saying OMG is pathetic
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also all you are providing is that the Father sent the Son, that doesnt go against the trinity LoL
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Are your comprehension skills so poor as this?

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

Jesus says "THE DOCTRINE" isn't his! Either you are wrong or Jesus is lying.

You Choose!
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Your ignoring of Jesus' precise words is what is pathetic. You have become boring.

It doesn't get simpler than this.

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

I have provided you with quote after quote after quote where Jesus plainly and specifically says he is sent by GOD and is working for GOD and doing GOD's will.

Obviously Jesus express teachings aren't good enough for you so please continue believing man made doctrine.

Are you really a Christian? You don't seem to trust Jesus enough.

So who cares if you want to follow man made doctrine...

All will be revealed at some time.
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You provided nothing that makes your point, Thomas called him God and Jesus blessed him for it. You being bored as an excuse to say Thomas was saying OMG is pathetic
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781997

also all you are providing is that the Father sent the Son, that doesnt go against the trinity LoL
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Are your comprehension skills so poor as this?

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

Jesus says "THE DOCTRINE" isn't his! Either you are wrong or Jesus is lying.

You Choose!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661

LoL Look at your comprehension skills LoL He says "MY Doctrine" which is obvious He is saying it's not only His or else that sentence wouldn't make any sense LoL
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There is no God.


That was an easy one.
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Jesus is God(John 1:1,14; 1Timothy 3:16). He thought it not robbery to be equal with God(Philippians 2:6).
Another name for God is...I AM(Exodus 3:14). Jesus said, before Abraham was...I AM(John 8:58). Then they picked up stones to stone Him for blasphemy but He hid Himself.
Being God, Jesus CHOSE not to know the day or hour.
Jesus took on sin in His perfect BODY.
He that knew no sin became sin that we might become the righteousness of God(2Cor. 5:21). That's a GREAT exchange if you call upon His name(Acts 2:21; Romans 10:9,10,13) and ask and receive Him into your heart by faith(John 1:12).
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Jesus is God(John 1:1,14; 1Timothy 3:16). He thought it not robbery to be equal with God(Philippians 2:6).
Another name for God is...I AM(Exodus 3:14). Jesus said, before Abraham was...I AM(John 8:58).
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"Son of God" does not mean "God" doesn´t it.

The name of God is "I AM WHO I AM", not just "I AM".

Before Abraham does not mean before Adam or does it?
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You provided nothing that makes your point, Thomas called him God and Jesus blessed him for it. You being bored as an excuse to say Thomas was saying OMG is pathetic
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also all you are providing is that the Father sent the Son, that doesnt go against the trinity LoL
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Are your comprehension skills so poor as this?

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

Jesus says "THE DOCTRINE" isn't his! Either you are wrong or Jesus is lying.

You Choose!
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LoL Look at your comprehension skills LoL He says "MY Doctrine" which is obvious He is saying it's not only His or else that sentence wouldn't make any sense LoL
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WOW! Trying to explain the obvious to you is like pulling teeth.

Either you are wrong or Jesus is lying.



Enough of this sillyness.
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also all you are providing is that the Father sent the Son, that doesnt go against the trinity LoL
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Are your comprehension skills so poor as this?

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

Jesus says "THE DOCTRINE" isn't his! Either you are wrong or Jesus is lying.

You Choose!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661

LoL Look at your comprehension skills LoL He says "MY Doctrine" which is obvious He is saying it's not only His or else that sentence wouldn't make any sense LoL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781997


WOW! Trying to explain the obvious to you is like pulling teeth.

Either you are wrong or Jesus is lying.



Enough of this sillyness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661

Like I said before be careful you are still in yours sins unless you believe

Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
Joh 8:20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
Joh 8:21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
Joh 8:22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
Joh 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am (he), ye shall die in your sins.
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First of all, Jesus DID NOT die on a cross, the cross was around long before Christ arrived, and is a representation of a Phallic symbol, something Christ would have never venerated. I laugh at all these people walking around with a Phallus around their necks, some even kissing it, some bowing before it, and- you answered your own quesion, these "false teachers" also teach that Jesus and God are the same within the "Trinity" also a teaching common among pagans before Christ. If you read the entire book of John, this is REALLY easy to see. If the "Trinity" was true, don't you think the word "Trinity" would be somewhere in the Bible?

Google "Origins of the Cross" and enjoy all the information available on the Phallic Symbol in ancient India,and elsewhere, and also it's ties to the Trinity belief. It is all out there, you just need to read and have an open mind.
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You are applauding someone who doesn't respect another religion and is ridiculing Christianity. Were you not earlier saying that we should accept ALL religions?
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Turn to islam now? Wow theres no mention of the virgin birth, His crucifixion, resurrection or anything. you are pathetically desperate
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Are your comprehension skills so poor as this?

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

Jesus says "THE DOCTRINE" isn't his! Either you are wrong or Jesus is lying.

You Choose!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661

LoL Look at your comprehension skills LoL He says "MY Doctrine" which is obvious He is saying it's not only His or else that sentence wouldn't make any sense LoL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781997


WOW! Trying to explain the obvious to you is like pulling teeth.

Either you are wrong or Jesus is lying.



Enough of this sillyness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661

Like I said before be careful you are still in yours sins unless you believe

Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
Joh 8:20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
Joh 8:21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
Joh 8:22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
Joh 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am (he), ye shall die in your sins.
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Did you intentionally leave out what comes next? I see who you are now!

John 8:25-29

25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.

26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me , I speak these things.


Who taught Jesus (the son)? GOD (the father). Under your belief Jesus has to be lying here. Jesus has to have taught himself. Why do you choose to make Jesus a liar?

29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

Under your beliefs Jesus always does things that please Jesus - He states it here. Once again you undermine Jesus' reverence for his father GOD.

You probably haven't comprehended it yet, but you should realise that I am not actually addressing you, with my quotes of scripture, as you have lost the ability to assess.

My quotations have been for others who will read them with an open heart & mind.

Thankyou for enabling me to speak to them through your ignorance.

Proof that "the word" has been corrupted by indoctrinated man made dogma.
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The is this guy they Killed

HE WAS god

He died and becouse of this his father has for given us of all our sins

If we accepted the god who was killed as our Savior

then we are saved

ITS ALOT MORE STRAIGHT THAN THAT

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God can't die
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CHrist did die. He was eaten by a bunch of jewish cannibals and they shitted him out and probably ate him again. But then there God was. Exactly as if nothing happened. Haha then they shitted again and probably yelled oh shit.
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LoL Look at your comprehension skills LoL He says "MY Doctrine" which is obvious He is saying it's not only His or else that sentence wouldn't make any sense LoL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781997


WOW! Trying to explain the obvious to you is like pulling teeth.

Either you are wrong or Jesus is lying.



Enough of this sillyness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1190661

Like I said before be careful you are still in yours sins unless you believe

Joh 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.
Joh 8:20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him; for his hour was not yet come.
Joh 8:21 Then said Jesus again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in your sins: whither I go, ye cannot come.
Joh 8:22 Then said the Jews, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come.
Joh 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.
Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am (he), ye shall die in your sins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28781997


Did you intentionally leave out what comes next? I see who you are now!

John 8:25-29

25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.

26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me , I speak these things.


Who taught Jesus (the son)? GOD (the father). Under your belief Jesus has to be lying here. Jesus has to have taught himself. Why do you choose to make Jesus a liar?

29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.

Under your beliefs Jesus always does things that please Jesus - He states it here. Once again you undermine Jesus' reverence for his father GOD.

You probably haven't comprehended it yet, but you should realise that I am not actually addressing you, with my quotes of scripture, as you have lost the ability to assess.

My quotations have been for others who will read them with an open heart & mind.

Thankyou for enabling me to speak to them through your ignorance.

Proof that "the word" has been corrupted by indoctrinated man made dogma.
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No. thank you for posting the rest of those scriptures. they help put my point across and only shows you cannot understand the nature of God with your carnal mind

You are still avoiding why Jesus didn't correct Thomas but to the contrary said those that will believe like he does will be blessed. You have no answer so you avoid it
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When Jesus Died on the cross and took on the sins of mankind did God the Father have to turn away and not look at his son because he is to HOLY to look upon sin, but yet Jesus could not only look upon sin but also take on all sin of mankind and it be nailed to the cross with him ?

And then again the question arises, if Jesus is God or Co equal to God The Father, Why does the bible tell us that no man knows the day nor the hour of his return not even the SON but only God The FATHER if Jesus is God or equal to his Father?

BTW Im not a JW or claim any "religion" Just a Followr of the Gospel is all
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lame
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Turn to islam now? Wow theres no mention of the virgin birth, His crucifixion, resurrection or anything. you are pathetically desperate
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the bhagavad gita does not have centuries of fulfilled prophecy.
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Doesn't make it any less infallible or sound

Even Nostradamus and Cayce predicted stuff way in advance if they wrote a book is it infallible.
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extremely weak argument. there were plenty of mythos penned. they were written by real people, yes. but it doesn't make it the word of God.

i will not argue with you.
i have my beliefs and you have yours.
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Thanks at least you admit the Bhagavad Gita is infallible and the one true word of God and every other religous Holy Book including the Bible is the the one true word of God too


I recommend Thread: Bible Scholar Bart Ehrman Debates
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the bagvadgita is not infallible. it is an actual document, however. so is tv guide.
"The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27
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“Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper
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He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
--Michah 6:8
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Turn to islam now? Wow theres no mention of the virgin birth, His crucifixion, resurrection or anything. you are pathetically desperate
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NO I wasn't suggesting turning to Islam now... The guy was a Christian discussing what a Christian book says...

It doesn't make the book correct.

It was what some Christians taught and it has insights from Jesus brother and early Christians.

You have become a waste of my time.
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Turn to islam now? Wow theres no mention of the virgin birth, His crucifixion, resurrection or anything. you are pathetically desperate
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NO I wasn't suggesting turning to Islam now... The guy was a Christian discussing what a Christian book says...

It doesn't make the book correct.

It was what some Christians taught and it has insights from Jesus brother and early Christians.

You have become a waste of my time.
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sorry you feel that way but I will stand up for what is right.
You posting this video are ready to throw out the virgin birth, resurrection, the crucifixion all so you can prove Jesus wasn't God. Now thats a real waste of time

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