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Message Subject Obama’s Labor Secretary: ‘We Saved Millions and Millions of Jobs’…by Extending Unemployment Benefits
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Appearing on CNBC on Friday, President Barack Obama’s Labor Secretary Hilda Solis said “millions of jobs” were saved when Congress extended unemployment benefits in the “fiscal cliff” deal.

“What I think about is those two million people that would have lost their unemployment insurance. Because think about it, all that money that goes out in terms of what is being spent by that unemployment check, helps to generate $2 back into the community. So small businesses, everyone continues to keep their jobs,” Solis said.

“Just by the movement that the president made, we saved millions and millions of jobs.”

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 Quoting: Nostril Domus

What is so hard to understand? If you pay an unemployed man, he then has funds to buy food, pay rent, etc. If you have a community with high unemployment, all that money goes back into the community and circulates. If there is less money to circulate, people working at the grocery store or the hardware store, etc., lose their jobs.

Kind of simple economics, really. Why do you think the concept of unemployment compensation is a standard economic and social policy?

For instance, in our community a large facility for handicapped and mentally challenged workers is being closed. Over 200 people will lose their jobs. These are people who own homes, cars, boats, who buy food and clothes and other products and services. What happens when 200 families lose their sole means of support and have no assistance from the government? Fewer moon pies sold, fewer plumbers called to fix faucets, fewer hair appointments. All that adds up and drives the community further in economic straights. Those 200 people probably support at least another 200 jobs. Those 200 lose their unemployment, the other 200 are in danger of losing their jobs.

Simple, yes? If I were a small business owner in this area, let's say a restaurant owner near the facility, my business would DIE if those same customers couldn't come in to eat using their unemployment benefit. My business suffers, I lay off people, those people can no longer buy products and services (if there is no unemployment insurance)and the cycle gets worse. It's called a deflationary spiral. Those are bad. They lead to depressions.

So, simple, yes?
 Quoting: Spine monkey


If giving unemployed people money to spend in to an economy is good, wouldn't it be equally good if we just handed out money to children as well? That would really increase demand.

Recessions are a necessary evil at times. By papering over an economy's problems, it only makes the inevitable bust worse.

I never understood how people think deflation is a bad thing. How does paying less money for goods and services hurt people? When prices fall, demand increases. Conversely, when prices rise, demand decreases. That's why people get excited when they see a deal like 50% off. No one would buy more products from a store that was advertising a "sale" like "pay 300% more, but only till Tuesday." Big screen tvs, cellphones and computers used to cost thousands of dollars and only the rich could afford them. Now consumer electronics are cheap and even the poor can afford these things today. Demand would drastically fall for electronics if those goods were as expensive as they once were.

Another issue I've always had with Keynesian economics is the claim that a weak currency is good. Keynesians claim that a weak currency is good because it increases demand for exports (ie, it makes goods cheaper for consumers in other countries). Well, why is it a good thing for foreigners to be able to consume our goods cheaply and a bad thing if the domestic population is able to consume our goods cheaply? So low prices are good for foreigners but bad for domestic populations? Remember, the cheaper goods and services are the more demand there will be for them. Last I checked, America has a population of about 315,000,000 people, there's plenty of potential demand there. Just like the myth the Chinese need America to consume their products or they'd lose their jobs. No, the Yuan would strengthen and instead of the Chinese sending their goods to broke Americans, the Chinese would sell their products at lower prices to their domestic population with their newly strengthened currency, which would increase demand.
 
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