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What a surprise! Inmates using newspaper's gun owner map to threaten guards, sheriff says | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31490233  United States01/05/2013 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31297288 United States01/05/2013 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so many ignorant people in media/news need to be arrested. they have crossed the line far too many times IMO. Quoting: SteamrolledGobias honestly, a lot of fucking people need to be arrested. Never heard of freedom of the press? Names and addresses are public information, as are PERMITS issued by the Government, unless expressly private. When you ask for YOUR rights to be protected, you cannot violate the rights of others. Public access is public access. Understood. We're not arguing for such things to be against the law(at least I'm not) but just because something CAN be done legally does not mean it SHOULD be done. With rights comes responsibility, and I just wish the people who released these names had a little of it. Responsibility? Again, you make a contract, read the fine print, unless there is something there to protect the information given voluntarily by the permit holders then there is NO expectation of privacy. These people want to have concealed carry permits and are too irresponsible to read and comprehend a contract with the State? THAT is the bigger issue in all this. |
Vision Thing  User ID: 23462738 United States01/05/2013 12:11 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Be careful if you are ever buying a house in the area. Especially if it was owned by a CO or LEO. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27352798 I've seen cases in the news where a drug dealer sold their (pimped out and therefore recognizable) car and the new owners were targeted and shot. Inmates and criminals might not keep up on the fact that it's no longer the guard's residence, but YOURS. They are just going by the list in their hand, and sometimes they have someone on the outside take their revenge for them so this could happen SOON. And if I were a prison guard with my address just published, my family would be moved out TODAY and my house would be on the market, just sayin'. That information is usually kept super confidential. Scary shit! I've known people who work in the court system and they are very careful to keep their phone and residence under the radar, for good reason. You spell out some more sinister possible repercussions of this. |
| truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 23952927 United States01/05/2013 12:16 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Law enforcement officials from a New York region where a local paper published a map identifying gun owners say prisoners are using the information to intimidate guards. Quoting: Laura Bow Rockland County Sheriff Louis Falco, who spoke at a news conference flanked by other county officials, said the Journal News' decision to post an online map of names and addresses of handgun owners Dec. 23 has put law enforcement officers in danger. "They have inmates coming up to them and telling them exactly where they live. That's not acceptable to me," Falco said, according to Newsday. Robert Riley, an officer with the White Plains Police Department and president of its Patrolman’s Benevolent Association, agreed. More at [link to www.foxnews.com] Nobody suing the newspaper? that seems to me breaking the laws on privacy. even in cases of pedophiles most of them get to live anonymously.. wtf I don't know about every state but in NY the names and address of sex offender are online. When I checked my area and the area of friends and relatives, it's shocking just how many sex offenders live within a few blocks. They show their photo, address and crime. Obviously, that is a good thing. Publishing names and addresses of innocent gun owners is a very bad thing. There needs to be laws against it.  ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
| truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 23952927 United States01/05/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well the guards certainly know exactly where the prisoners live, so fair is fair. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8829929 No, criminals have proven themselves to not be nice people...most should just be put to sleep.  So you would be in favor of a criminal? The only reason one would be is either they are crazy or a criminal themselves. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 United States01/05/2013 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Law enforcement officials from a New York region where a local paper published a map identifying gun owners say prisoners are using the information to intimidate guards. Quoting: Laura Bow Rockland County Sheriff Louis Falco, who spoke at a news conference flanked by other county officials, said the Journal News' decision to post an online map of names and addresses of handgun owners Dec. 23 has put law enforcement officers in danger. "They have inmates coming up to them and telling them exactly where they live. That's not acceptable to me," Falco said, according to Newsday. Robert Riley, an officer with the White Plains Police Department and president of its Patrolman’s Benevolent Association, agreed. More at [link to www.foxnews.com]  If I were a guard I'd say "well, I guess I'll be seeing you when you get out. Get your affairs in order." |
| truthwillsetyoufreeagain User ID: 23952927 United States01/05/2013 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, you're just easily scared. Life isn't a television program. There is no percentage in going after a guards family. "Oh, they could blackmail a guard!" Except that in real life, if they tried, they'd only lose from doing it. Quoting: Mr. Toppit Do you really think criminals thing about the consequences to themselves? If they did, they wouldn't be criminals to begin with. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31317595  Switzerland01/05/2013 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well the guards certainly know exactly where the prisoners live, so fair is fair. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8829929 No, criminals have proven themselves to not be nice people...most should just be put to sleep. So you would be in favor of a criminal? The only reason one would be is either they are crazy or a criminal themselves. Hey pal. Your only a 'criminal' when the 'law' says your a criminal. So, by that logic, Gun owners are about to become 'criminals' because the law is about to say they are. What's the difference in calling someone who smokes a joint and sits home reading a book vs. a gun owner a criminal? Seriously? What makes one better than the other? Answer = Because it's written on some mundane piece of paper as being a crime. Sorry, but by continuing to support the generalized term 'criminal' to apply to ANYONE that does anything against what some mundane set of 50,000 America Laws written on paper say, you continue to degrade humanity. It's really hard to feel sorry for idiots like you who are about to experience the hammer of what 1/3 of the population has been feeling for the past 40 years. An oppressive police state where you are a 'criminal' because some shithead with a piece of paper and a badge says you are. Not because you harmed anyone. Gotta enjoy the Hypocrisy in America. Lulz |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29797536 United States01/05/2013 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well the guards certainly know exactly where the prisoners live, so fair is fair. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8829929 No, criminals have proven themselves to not be nice people...most should just be put to sleep. So you would be in favor of a criminal? The only reason one would be is either they are crazy or a criminal themselves. So you would be in favor of "not nice people" being "put to sleep?" Again, |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31297288 United States01/05/2013 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF No, criminals have proven themselves to not be nice people...most should just be put to sleep. So you would be in favor of a criminal? The only reason one would be is either they are crazy or a criminal themselves. Hey pal. Your only a 'criminal' when the 'law' says your a criminal. So, by that logic, Gun owners are about to become 'criminals' because the law is about to say they are. What's the difference in calling someone who smokes a joint and sits home reading a book vs. a gun owner a criminal? Seriously? What makes one better than the other? Answer = Because it's written on some mundane piece of paper as being a crime. Sorry, but by continuing to support the generalized term 'criminal' to apply to ANYONE that does anything against what some mundane set of 50,000 America Laws written on paper say, you continue to degrade humanity. It's really hard to feel sorry for idiots like you who are about to experience the hammer of what 1/3 of the population has been feeling for the past 40 years. An oppressive police state where you are a 'criminal' because some shithead with a piece of paper and a badge says you are. Not because you harmed anyone. Gotta enjoy the Hypocrisy in America. Lulz At least the Swiss guy gets it. WE wrote some words and by acts of magic, they control everyone and everything. Some people still believe in Witches and Wizards of OZ (DC). |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31317595 Switzerland01/05/2013 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF No, criminals have proven themselves to not be nice people...most should just be put to sleep. So you would be in favor of a criminal? The only reason one would be is either they are crazy or a criminal themselves. So you would be in favor of "not nice people" being "put to sleep?" Again, Like I said above. VERY hard to feel sorry for these idiots who are about to experience the hammer of 'The Law' that they so blindly enforced against innocent people for the past 40 years. Hypocrites. |
| milehighmike User ID: 339344 United States01/05/2013 01:50 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 Stars and added an Update Link to this timeline (Page 7): Thread: USA Gun Control Timeline, a social experiment...Post Sandy Hook to Present "Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others. Unsuccessful people are always asking, 'What's in it for me?'" — Brian Tracy: Personal and business training author, speaker, and consultant "We are all, right now, living the life we choose." -- Peter McWilliams, Author "The bad news is time flies. The good news is you're the pilot." -- Michael Altshuler |
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| BRIEF User ID: 31114846 United States01/05/2013 02:30 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He is FULL of shit. Threaten a guard and your ass is in the hole for 6 months with another 10 guards who will daily stick their clubs up your ass so they make sure you don't do it again and others do not follow suit. turn your tv off dude. Just pick up the little black thing with buttons on it and look for the one that says 'off'.press said button. that is all. I have been to jail and prison. These facts are not from TV. Sure, you can threaten them all you want, but you better believe they will get you back and attempt to curb your threats with various attitude adjustment techniques such as the hole and beat downs. It is a dog eat dog and very dark world for everyone that walks through the gates of a prison regardless if it is a job or a conviction for a crime. No surprise there...bet you have tattoos also...trash :tattoosarepretty: I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.  |
| peppersgc User ID: 11833297 United States01/05/2013 02:51 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are things of such darkness and horror—just, I suppose, as there are things of such great beauty—that they will not fit through the puny human doors of perception. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7820311 United States01/05/2013 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well the guards certainly know exactly where the prisoners live, so fair is fair. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8829929 No, criminals have proven themselves to not be nice people...most should just be put to sleep. Guess what. Obama's about to say these guards are the NEW criminals if they don't turn in their guns. Guess they should be put to sleep to? Did they rob liquor stores or kill someone? Obama is a communist and wants to disarm us like the other dictators in history did... I used to hate your freaking guts, we had words a couple years back. Because of this beast you and I have found a common ground. He is planning to destroy America for his masters, I see this clearly. This is their weakness, they are driving people together.. |
| T-Man Entitled title User ID: 31572944  Netherlands01/05/2013 04:54 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30670070 United States01/05/2013 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 551387 So this is... Really not an issue, is it? Guards being threatened by inmates? How many? What proof do we have that this story even happened? How did the inmates get a hold of the information? Did they write it down? Memorize it? No, we're being told that this happened and that it's a threat. Let's all be scared because people know where armed people live? I thought the point of gun ownership was to make people like that think twice about giving you problems? Think about it. This is a none issue, made up to control how you think. How I think is ... Maybe everyone who buys the Journal News should have THEIR address published. Not really, but we want to encourage the Journal News to go out of business for lack of customers. I certainly will never buy one again, and I live in the affected area. As a matter of facts, a few days ago I read that hackers got hold of their subscriber database! |
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