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Gene Rosen ... Grieving Town Grandfather, or Bad 'Crisis Actor'

 
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clearly none of you are from CT, because if you were (like I am) you would actually see the people that have been involved in this and realize "holy shit, that actually happened"
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I'm sure all of the general public that are not "in the know" are obviously devastated by this event! I was too!.....until I did my own research.

But I also suspect there are certain people in CT. that know what the hell happened.......and you'll never hear the truth from them.

If people died, my sympathies. If there were ulterior motives - let the truth be told! You have to admit.....many many things do not add up.

Don't worry......in less than 90 days we'll have the film project in the can and they'll show us the movie! err, I mean show us the "official version".
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the official version is that your are a fucktard. i know 1 of the parents who lost their child, how do you explain that?
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I don't believe I ever said that "no one" died! We don't know for a "fact" at this time. And if you are telling the truth.....I know that the person you know that honestly lost a child..... didn't do the dog and pony circuit with the MSM, like the Parker's and McDonnell's, etc.. huh? and I bet they cried like hell! And are completely distraught...even to this day, huh?
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looks like this thread made the MSM as well

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One post, entitled "Grieving Town Grandfather, or Bad 'Crisis Actor,'" reads in part:
Gene's oft repeated, and changing, story about that day, focuses totally on the kids and the sound of gunshots. Even though his eyes and ears should've taken in the whole scene, his story focuses completely on the kids and the guns.
Why? Well, if this was a false flag event designed to move political opinion on gun control, here in America, then you would get a lot more bang for your buck by talking about the innocent little children. That's what tugs on America's heart strings the most ... especially around Christmas time.
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OK, look at this ...

Gene Rosen, interviewed many times over for his story about helping the kids at Sandy Hook.

His home is adjacent to the firehouse, which is very close to the school. On the day of the alleged shooting, there were DOZENS of cars, trucks, vans, and people congregating around the firehouse. In fact, the streets were blocked by all the traffic and commotion there.

So, if you were standing in your front yard, telling a TV reporter what happened that day, you would probably mention something about all the commotion at the firehouse that day, wouldn't you? I think I would.

But, Gene's oft repeated, and changing, story about that day, focuses totally on the kids and the sound of gunshots. Even though his eyes and ears should've taken in the whole scene, his story focuses completely on the kids and the guns.

Why? Well, if this was a false flag event designed to move political opinion on gun control, here in America, then you would get a lot more bang for your buck by talking about the innocent little children. That's what tugs on America's heart strings the most ... especially around Christmas time.

But, why, you might ask, do this? Wasn't the Aurora Shooting (which occured a few days before an important vote on Gun Control, by the way), enough to scare Americans into supporting gun control?

NO, it wasn't. The NRA and econd Amendment supporters won that vote. Aurora failed to achieve the objective.

Why did Aurora fail to achieve the objective? Perhaps it was because the victims were young adults, not children. Nothing tugs at the heart strings of Americans like threats to innocent, young children ... especially around Christmas time. Also, Aurora happened in a slightly lower income neighborhood; and people sometimes brush things off when they happen to different kinds of neighborhoods than their own.

So, perhaps they decided to stage another one. This time in an upscale neighborhood, involving innocent children, around Christmas time. And, this led us to Sandy Hook.

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Just to be clear, I am not yet 100% sold on the fact that Sandy Hook was a staged, false flag event. And, if there are any real victims, I would be heartbroken. I am a Dad, myself, of 4 youngsters, and when I first saw the stories about Sandy Hook, my stomach turned. Nonetheless, having now done some research and examined some of the points made by 'Sandy Hook truthers', I have become very very suspicious about the veracity of the incident.
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I honestly hope you people get caught for harrasing this man. What a bunch of sick SOB's you people are for attacking this man after he took care of those kids. What family life do you people have if this is how you treat people who did something good in the world.
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I honestly

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bullshit
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Someone wonders how Gene Rosen avoided seeing all the cars around the firehouse and school when he found the children.

Okay, a simple bit of logic here. He found the children shortly after 9:30 AM. Think carefully, person who criticized Mr. Rosen for not seeing all sorts of vehicles when he found the children. Could it possibly be BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT THERE YET? Duh! The police did not show up until later, and the cars did not start building up until closer to 10 AM. Geez. Use some logic. The cars did not magically appear moments after the shooting began.

As for the individual who says that Gene Rosen is changing his story and his emotions, and then cites all sorts of made-up "facts" to support his position, I suggest you are wrong. Memory is a funny thing, and memory under shock is even stranger. It IS a fact that if a group of people witness a shocking event, such as a shooting, that the perceptions of each person will be different. People will see and remember different things, which may or may not be accurate. I am sure Gene Rosen was confused and shocked by the events of the day and things that initially were trivial or unimportant at the time he may have remembered differently with time. Such changes in recollection are not unusual, they are normal. Ask anyone who has been through a traumatic event.

All this hype and conspiracy theory about this event is ridiculous. All the people are doing who are twisting the events of the day are doing is stressing out the families of the victims. You people should stop looking for conspiracies where none exist and get a life.

Let me guess, some of you believe the holocaust never happened either, and that Elvis lives in outer space with aliens.

Seriously, you people need to wake up from your little fantasy world.
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clearly none of you are from CT, because if you were (like I am) you would actually see the people that have been involved in this and realize "holy shit, that actually happened"
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So, you actually know some of these people? More info please.
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Someone wonders how Gene Rosen avoided seeing all the cars around the firehouse and school when he found the children.

Okay, a simple bit of logic here. He found the children shortly after 9:30 AM. Think carefully, person who criticized Mr. Rosen for not seeing all sorts of vehicles when he found the children. Could it possibly be BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT THERE YET? Duh! The police did not show up until later, and the cars did not start building up until closer to 10 AM. Geez. Use some logic. The cars did not magically appear moments after the shooting began.

As for the individual who says that Gene Rosen is changing his story and his emotions, and then cites all sorts of made-up "facts" to support his position, I suggest you are wrong. Memory is a funny thing, and memory under shock is even stranger. It IS a fact that if a group of people witness a shocking event, such as a shooting, that the perceptions of each person will be different. People will see and remember different things, which may or may not be accurate. I am sure Gene Rosen was confused and shocked by the events of the day and things that initially were trivial or unimportant at the time he may have remembered differently with time. Such changes in recollection are not unusual, they are normal. Ask anyone who has been through a traumatic event.

All this hype and conspiracy theory about this event is ridiculous. All the people are doing who are twisting the events of the day are doing is stressing out the families of the victims. You people should stop looking for conspiracies where none exist and get a life.

Let me guess, some of you believe the holocaust never happened either, and that Elvis lives in outer space with aliens.

Seriously, you people need to wake up from your little fantasy world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5694974


hold on there Tonto!?!!!

"change story"....like did he take the kids to the firehouse? did the parents come pick up the kids? Does he still wish to meet the parents one day??? or did they come within the next 4hrs. later to the house and pick them up?!?! Well? What is it????.... even if he's senile.....he'd known "exactly" what he had done with just those couple of discrepancy. And I haven't even begun to call him on the remaining 30+ bullshit reneg responses. Give us a break "shill".....move on nothing to see here.
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looks like this thread made the MSM as well

[link to news.yahoo.com]


One post, entitled "Grieving Town Grandfather, or Bad 'Crisis Actor,'" reads in part:
Gene's oft repeated, and changing, story about that day, focuses totally on the kids and the sound of gunshots. Even though his eyes and ears should've taken in the whole scene, his story focuses completely on the kids and the guns.
Why? Well, if this was a false flag event designed to move political opinion on gun control, here in America, then you would get a lot more bang for your buck by talking about the innocent little children. That's what tugs on America's heart strings the most ... especially around Christmas time.
 Quoting: MissionInvisible


THIS^^^
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Well squirrel, he kept calling parents until he reached the parents of four of the children. The parents went to his house, where they gathered up all the children, and took them to the firehouse. Apparently Rosen accompanied the group to the firehouse, but he did not personally "take" them there.

Perhaps the bigger question is, who cares? What is the big deal? The children escaped, and ended up on Rosen's lawn. These children were not the only ones who escaped. Another group of children were walking away from the school and a mother going toward the school picked up the group and took them to her home. I hope her name goes not get out so she can be harassed by people who have nothing better to do than criticize people who did a good thing in a tough situation.
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Oh, and squirrel, shill for what, exactly? How about a shill for some truth, rather that BS conspiracy theories from a bunch of nutcases who belong in a mental ward?

Yes, some of the people here obviously have no real life, so they are trying to figure out some way to twist stories into some sort of conspiracy theory that has more holes in it than a block of Swiss cheese.

Move along conspiracy theorists, there is nothing to see here. Go back to thinking Obama was born in Kenya to people from Arcturus, or whatever nutsoid thing you believe.
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looks like this thread made the MSM as well

[link to news.yahoo.com]


One post, entitled "Grieving Town Grandfather, or Bad 'Crisis Actor,'" reads in part:
Gene's oft repeated, and changing, story about that day, focuses totally on the kids and the sound of gunshots. Even though his eyes and ears should've taken in the whole scene, his story focuses completely on the kids and the guns.
Why? Well, if this was a false flag event designed to move political opinion on gun control, here in America, then you would get a lot more bang for your buck by talking about the innocent little children. That's what tugs on America's heart strings the most ... especially around Christmas time.
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THIS^^^
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This
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looks like this thread made the MSM as well

[link to news.yahoo.com]


One post, entitled "Grieving Town Grandfather, or Bad 'Crisis Actor,'" reads in part:
Gene's oft repeated, and changing, story about that day, focuses totally on the kids and the sound of gunshots. Even though his eyes and ears should've taken in the whole scene, his story focuses completely on the kids and the guns.
Why? Well, if this was a false flag event designed to move political opinion on gun control, here in America, then you would get a lot more bang for your buck by talking about the innocent little children. That's what tugs on America's heart strings the most ... especially around Christmas time.
 Quoting: MissionInvisible


THIS^^^
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20548504


This
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didn't know if anything had been posted about this so I created a thread a little while ago...OP had not responded so I linked the thread :)

Thread: Made it into MSM (Yahoo)...Grieving Grandfather thread about Gene Rosen.
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Well squirrel, he kept calling parents until he reached the parents of four of the children. The parents went to his house, where they gathered up all the children, and took them to the firehouse. Apparently Rosen accompanied the group to the firehouse, but he did not personally "take" them there.

Perhaps the bigger question is, who cares? What is the big deal? The children escaped, and ended up on Rosen's lawn. These children were not the only ones who escaped. Another group of children were walking away from the school and a mother going toward the school picked up the group and took them to her home. I hope her name goes not get out so she can be harassed by people who have nothing better to do than criticize people who did a good thing in a tough situation.
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That's what you've got? So Eugene met some of the parents and not all of them, right? Ok, possibly. How about seeing the dead boy's name on a list, before a list even existed???? or was it he said that he will look on the list????

Come on, we can go on and on and on with his bullshit discrepancies.
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I hope someone puts all your nut cases into a mental health facility or at this rate the FBI investigates you and makes your lives hell for doing this to Gene Rosen. Even jail time is not enough for lunatics that harass someone for doing being a good deed. If you think that insulting someone by calling them a shill is going to get you anywhere, it does not prove anything except that you have to feed your paranoid personality disorder. Please seek medical attention from a doctor that can prescribe you antipsychotics along with get some therapy from a psychiatrist.
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I hope someone puts all your nut cases into a mental health facility or at this rate the FBI investigates you and makes your lives hell for doing this to Gene Rosen. Even jail time is not enough for lunatics that harass someone for doing being a good deed. If you think that insulting someone by calling them a shill is going to get you anywhere, it does not prove anything except that you have to feed your paranoid personality disorder. Please seek medical attention from a doctor that can prescribe you antipsychotics along with get some therapy from a psychiatrist.
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"You mad bro'?"otrike

I've never "harassed" Mr. Rosen. I think he is a very very bad man. And that's my opinion.
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I hope someone puts all your nut cases into a mental health facility or at this rate the FBI investigates you and makes your lives hell for doing this to Gene Rosen. Even jail time is not enough for lunatics that harass someone for doing being a good deed. If you think that insulting someone by calling them a shill is going to get you anywhere, it does not prove anything except that you have to feed your paranoid personality disorder. Please seek medical attention from a doctor that can prescribe you antipsychotics along with get some therapy from a psychiatrist.
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They're now trying to take the 1st and 2nd amendments..
All in one big HOOK...<<< think about it...
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I hope someone puts all your nut cases into a mental health facility or at this rate the FBI investigates you and makes your lives hell for doing this to Gene Rosen. Even jail time is not enough for lunatics that harass someone for doing being a good deed. If you think that insulting someone by calling them a shill is going to get you anywhere, it does not prove anything except that you have to feed your paranoid personality disorder. Please seek medical attention from a doctor that can prescribe you antipsychotics along with get some therapy from a psychiatrist.
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"You mad bro'?"otrike

I've never "harassed" Mr. Rosen. I think he is a very very bad man. And that's my opinion.
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Actually not mad at all since unlike the people around here that think they can upset a person by insulting them with childish antics, I am know that you are just people trying to make up for nothing important in your lives. You know there is an easy way out if you cannot handle reality. There is a knife in the kitchen, use it to slit your own wrist. God will forgive me for saying that since he can see how you are corrupting the mind of people by feeding them rubbish. Everything I have read that you have posts about this whole conspiracy theory lacks substance so in all probability you really need to seek medical attention or just end it now to stop causing people suffering. Either way, I could care less. You can either think logically for yourself instead of following the crazy train and learn to either take the time to analyze information before making a crazy judgment that impacts people's lives like Gene that you keep on insisting to insult when you have never met him. It is one thing to just say you do not believe a person's story, it is another to add fuel to the fire on something that no one can be sure of what happened unless you were there.
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I hope someone puts all your nut cases into a mental health facility or at this rate the FBI investigates you and makes your lives hell for doing this to Gene Rosen. Even jail time is not enough for lunatics that harass someone for doing being a good deed. If you think that insulting someone by calling them a shill is going to get you anywhere, it does not prove anything except that you have to feed your paranoid personality disorder. Please seek medical attention from a doctor that can prescribe you antipsychotics along with get some therapy from a psychiatrist.
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They're now trying to take the 1st and 2nd amendments..
All in one big HOOK...<<< think about it...
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I am guessing you never took a political science class before. The Bill of Rights is actually not meant for the people, in all actuality it is for the states. Over time people tended to assume or maybe their viewpoints changed on how the Bill of Rights was meant to be. They started to claim that they were for the people, not for the states. Now let me clear some air here and say that I agree that people should be able to bear guns, but I think that people forget there has to be some way of stopping people who have too many issues where they cannot control themselves or have split personalities should be stopped from owning guns. There should also be background checks of people who have criminal records that have a history of violent tendencies such as domestic disputes that were known to cause injury.
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"That's what you've got? So Eugene met some of the parents and not all of them, right? Ok, possibly. How about seeing the dead boy's name on a list, before a list even existed???? or was it he said that he will look on the list????

Come on, we can go on and on and on with his bullshit discrepancies."

Yes, Gene apparently met four parents at his house. What is your point? No, he did not meet all the parents of all the children in the elementary school, either during the day of the shootings, or afterward. Neither has he met Elvis since the time Elvis died.

Multiple news sources state that the mother of one of the children who died came to his house and asked whether Rosen had seen her son. Rosen answered in the negative. It has also been widely reported by multiple news sources that LATER, obviously AFTER the lists came out, that Rosen saw the boy's name on the list of casualties.

I am still looking for one discrepancy that originates with Rosen. Thus far, his story seems fairly consistent, and seems to have been widely reported about as accurately as media reports any story.
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Quoting squirrel:

"That's what you've got? So Eugene met some of the parents and not all of them, right? Ok, possibly. How about seeing the dead boy's name on a list, before a list even existed???? or was it he said that he will look on the list????

Come on, we can go on and on and on with his bullshit discrepancies."

Yes, Gene apparently met four parents at his house. What is your point? No, he did not meet all the parents of all the children in the elementary school, either during the day of the shootings, or afterward. Neither has he met Elvis since the time Elvis died.

Multiple news sources state that the mother of one of the children who died came to his house and asked whether Rosen had seen her son. Rosen answered in the negative. It has also been widely reported by multiple news sources that LATER, obviously AFTER the lists came out, that Rosen saw the boy's name on the list of casualties.

I am still looking for one discrepancy that originates with Rosen. Thus far, his story seems fairly consistent, and seems to have been widely reported about as accurately as media reports any story.
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Look, I haven't got time to do the research for you. BUT if you choose to do so......you WILL find contrasting video where on one hand Gene says: I saw the boy's name on the list"....this interview was at the end of the day of the supposed shooting. In another video you will see where Gene says: "I will have to check the list to see if the boy is on it..."
EITHER WAY! HE HAD NO WAY TO SEE THE LIST WHEN HE MADE BOTH OF THE CONTRADICTORY RESPONSE!!

Give me a break. He's a liar and I believe intentionally, not some schmuck looking for 15 minutes of fame. He is an evil evil man. Try a little discernment......

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Take a murder scene, 25 witnesses was a man walk up and unload his gun in the head of some hapless soul.

Out of those witnesses one will tell you what shops were open along the side of the street, they will know what cars were parked along the side walk. These details will stick in their head. Asked what kind of gun was used will be 'I don't know, but it was loud'.

As another and suddenly you have someone describing the gun to the n'th detail. Stores? Cars, other people nope didn't see that.

Other witnesses will know exactly what the murderer was wearing, but can't recall his face. Others will think he had a tattoo and with each retelling that tattoo becomes clearer in their mind, even if the guy doesn't have a tat.

Psychologists and crime investigators are well acquainted with these phenomena.

Under periods of duress, different people focus on other things. Worse they are often fearful, fear causes tunnel vision in most.

This guy was stressed out, he ain't going to know the details, wouldn't have actually noted details, and as time goes on his brain is going to change what he perceived by filling in the missing pieces with each account on the news, and a growing conviction that when he things he saw x that he really did see x as the brain attempts to make sense out of an event that is most likely horrific.

Of course you and everyone one else going on and on about missing data or changing stories have no idea how the brain really works. And you most likely won't learn until you experience it yourself. No not even then because you will purposefully blind yourself to it.
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Mr Rosen's display of emotion is extremely unconvincing.

There's 1 part in an interview where he has his eyes closed and it looks like he's focusing on remembering his script, losing focus on the emotional acting.
Also at 2:50 in the vid, is he crying or laughing?

What I think is very ironic is that 'they' put so much focus on these bad actors with inconsistent stories, that it's like they're exposing themselves.
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Take a murder scene, 25 witnesses was a man walk up and unload his gun in the head of some hapless soul.

Out of those witnesses one will tell you what shops were open along the side of the street, they will know what cars were parked along the side walk. These details will stick in their head. Asked what kind of gun was used will be 'I don't know, but it was loud'.

As another and suddenly you have someone describing the gun to the n'th detail. Stores? Cars, other people nope didn't see that.

Other witnesses will know exactly what the murderer was wearing, but can't recall his face. Others will think he had a tattoo and with each retelling that tattoo becomes clearer in their mind, even if the guy doesn't have a tat.

Psychologists and crime investigators are well acquainted with these phenomena.

Under periods of duress, different people focus on other things. Worse they are often fearful, fear causes tunnel vision in most.

This guy was stressed out, he ain't going to know the details, wouldn't have actually noted details, and as time goes on his brain is going to change what he perceived by filling in the missing pieces with each account on the news, and a growing conviction that when he things he saw x that he really did see x as the brain attempts to make sense out of an event that is most likely horrific.

Of course you and everyone one else going on and on about missing data or changing stories have no idea how the brain really works. And you most likely won't learn until you experience it yourself. No not even then because you will purposefully blind yourself to it.
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WHY DID HE SAY "HE SAW THE BOYS NAME ON THE LIST" BEFORE THE LIST WAS MADE AVAIALABLE?????? That interview was done before the list was available as well?!?!?!

shill's go away........
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I've seen all the conspiracy videos of this.. And it gets you to believe that are government is capable and very motivated to do something like this. Why? For gun control. You can't have a dictatorship with citizens who have weapons. As much as I don't want to believe it's a hoax.. People such as Robbie Parker, Gene Rosen and all the faults in the story told through the media leave you to wonder. I'm 19 years old and lost my father this past year. Me and my brother were the two people who found him after a self-inflicted gun wound. And I can go ahead and say I will remember every single detail from that day. These people just seem a little bit too confused for such a tragedy like this. I don't want to hear from the parents and neighbors who weren't even there. I want to hear from the kids, some survivors from the school. This whole story just doesn't add up.
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Re: Gene Rosen ... Grieving Town Grandfather, or Bad 'Crisis Actor'
Quoting the rabid squirrel:

"That's what you've got? So Eugene met some of the parents and not all of them, right? Ok, possibly. How about seeing the dead boy's name on a list, before a list even existed???? or was it he said that he will look on the list????

Come on, we can go on and on and on with his bullshit discrepancies."

Who and where does it say that he saw the boy's name on a list before the list existed? Rosen does not say that. I have not seen any credible source that quotes Rosen saying he saw the list before any list existed.

Regardless, just what is your point? Assume for a moment there are some discrepancies in the story. Big deal. Wikipedia and the Encyclopedia Brittanica are loaded with errors. Just what is your point? Do you deny that half a dozen children ended up in his yard, even though several parents confirm they went to Rosen's house to retrieve their children? After that fact, all else is trivia.
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I've seen all the conspiracy videos of this.. And it gets you to believe that are government is capable and very motivated to do something like this. Why? For gun control. You can't have a dictatorship with citizens who have weapons. As much as I don't want to believe it's a hoax.. People such as Robbie Parker, Gene Rosen and all the faults in the story told through the media leave you to wonder. I'm 19 years old and lost my father this past year. Me and my brother were the two people who found him after a self-inflicted gun wound. And I can go ahead and say I will remember every single detail from that day. These people just seem a little bit too confused for such a tragedy like this. I don't want to hear from the parents and neighbors who weren't even there. I want to hear from the kids, some survivors from the school. This whole story just doesn't add up.
 Quoting: Al 32306595


I remember the day when my brother ran his arm through a glass window, slicing open an artery and spewing blood all over the place. Yet, in spite of my "vivid" recollection, my recollections differ from those of my sisters and my brother. Go figure. Memory is a funny thing, and just because you think your memory was supposedly vivid does not mean your vivid memories are accurate or even consistent with what you remembered immediately after a traumatic event.

People here need to get a clue. Sandy Hook was all the justification the anti-gun people needed to clamor for gun control. Indeed, I have not one use of the Rosen portion of this story with respect to gun control.

FYI: You will never meet any of these children from the classroom where the shootings occurred, because they are CHILDREN. It is illegal to interview children without parent's permission, and I, for one, would not want my child reliving that nightmare just to satisfy your morbid curiosity.
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I saw a post stating that the Aurora shooter's attorney was also an actor who was seen playing the part of a Sandy Hook parent. Really? And these people are "truthers"? Sorry, if the gov wanted to take over your shit it doesn't matter how many guns you have. Remember Waco?
I was in high school some years ago when down the street two guys walked through the streets of North Hollywood shooting AK47s at the police after they robbed a bank. They were covered in body armor and the carnage went on for quite some time. They cut recess and locked down the school. Please don't act like incidences like these don't happen.
I also knew two young men who were shot and killed in the last year. There's obviously a gun problem in this country, and sadly the problem is that people don't think there is one.
But what do I know?
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Most of you people have got to be retarded or on meds. I hope you dont have access to weapons. For your families sake. FFS
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watching the videos of the "grieving" parents, especially the mothers, makes me think of the title of the movie when it comes out:


The Stepford Wives Move to Sandy Hook
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watching the videos of the "grieving" parents, especially the mothers, makes me think of the title of the movie when it comes out:


The Stepford Wives Move to Sandy Hook
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Watching you make fun of parents whom have lost a child is much like watching films of the Nazis gassing Jews, Gypsies, and anyone else who did not fit their vision. I can see the title of the news story:

"Heartless and Brainless Conspiracy Theorists Make Fun of Grieving Parents, Suggest They Should 'Suck It Up'"

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