County Sheriffs Can Block Federal Gun Control

You are wise. The government will help those true citizens as much as possible. The local police will gladly fall into line as the federalization of their offices, power, and (most importantly) pay will be used against them.

Your friends, neighbors, and family will be the ones turning you in.

It will be glorious.

It has been my understanding that in the United States Officers of the Law are ALWAYS required to display at least two visible forms of identification and also make every attempt to verbally identify themselves as Officers of the Law.

This is required to avoid Citizens mistaking the Officers as Armed Criminals intent upon doing injury or worse.

It has always been recognized that Citizens have an inalienable (God Given) right to self-protection and to the common protection of other citizens.

In the case of these Armed "Men in Black" arriving on scene in "Black Vehicles" totally unmarked and undeclared every citizen is within their right to self-protection and lending aid (protection) to any other citizen under threat.

The day is here and now, as was always the case in the past, that citizens may render aid to our Law Officers (Sheriffs) when they become disabled, overcome or outnumbered. So long as that aid does not obstruct justice or the performance of the Officers duty.

If we are now to see Armed "Men in Black" roaming our communities intent upon molesting our Law Officers they themselves should be forewarned. Americans are gentle by nature but once aroused will not tolerate this unlawful predatory behavior in our nation.

Every "Black Vehicle" with dark windows should be suspect and noteworthy from this point forward.

Well maybe, but look at what happens with states that legalized marijuana.

The state gets rid of the laws making marijuana illegal, and the state no longer enforces the federal law making the law illegal.

The feds still come in and bust people for possession of marijuana. These people still get prosecuted and still thrown in jail. The feds may not bust as many people as the state did under local laws, but bust people they do.

So unfortunately, it doesn't seem to matter much what the state laws are when they're in conflict with the federal laws. If local law enforcement won't enforce the laws, the feds will bring in people who will.

What you're saying about the sheriffs being the supreme law of the land they serve over coincides with my understanding, but by gross abuses of the supremacy clause that's not how it works out in practice.

From my understanding, I would actually think it would be the sheriff's duty to stop feds who charge in and try to enforce laws that do not apply to his area, because the feds have no legitimate authority to arrest anyone. Feds affecting an arrest in such a circumstance would just be kidnapping people and illegally threatening the use of/using deadly force. Same thing legally as an off-duty cop using his police cruiser to get his victim to pull over, then kidnapping said victim at gunpoint.

But I don't think local law enforcement would stop them. They haven't thus far.

No one will do anything. Local law enforcement will simply be made partners in order to keep their power, position, and current/future employment.

In 2010, when the Marine numbers were yet up there, there were about 203,000 active and 40,000 reserves. So about 243,000 total. That includes both male and female, the combat ready and the desk-clerks.

So 25% of all those folks would be about 60,750 Marines willing to 'shoot at' their own American Citizens.

Let us never forget how our own National Guard were 'duped' during the Communist (Progressive) Operation known as the 'Kent State Shootings'.

Today, the Military would not be confronting those same ignorant unarmed "Flower Children" standing out there on our city streets.

Those 60,750 Marines could be outnumbered over ten to one by just the Deer Hunters in Wisconsin alone.

Wisconsin is only one moderately populated state out of a nation.

Even with their "Force Multipliers" our Brothers and Sisters, our Marines out there, would be rather doomed after first-blood.

God Bless Our Marines.

Last Edited by DataSponge on 01/07/2013 12:46 AM

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what do ya got on that?

thank god...that's why they'll be coming for them.

You can't really compare dope smoking with a specifically protect, constitutionally guaranteed right, like the 2nd amendment.

Personally, I think that the average rural sheriff would be MUCH more likely to defend gun rights, than they would dope smoking rights.

Dope smoking has been illegal for decades. Gun ownership has ALWAYS been legal, since the very beginning. Except in the big scum-sucking municipalities, like New York, Chicago, and other various cesspools of crime and corruption.

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You again... eh, troll?

What will be "glorious" is the day that you will stand before the Great White Throne, in judgment of your behavior upon this earth.

Your shame will be naked for all to see.

TYRANNY... doesn't exist unless the aggressor has the means and will to oppress.

The personal decision to stand against Tyranny is solely based on ones understanding of what the loss of liberty means.

Both Military Service and Imprisonment will give a person some reference for understanding the duress of this environment.

Lacking this life experience it is easy to be overwhelmed by the demands of the constant struggle against Tyranny and Oppression.

Regardless of your personal decision, you cannot avoid the issue and it will not be ignored for long. The Oppressor will be sure to see to that.

So you may chose to live and share a miserable life with those you love or strive to create a better one. The choice is yours.

Your Sheriff will have an "Open Door" policy. He/She as a elected official is a "Public Servant".

They are however very busy people these days.

I would start by writing a respectful letter of inquiry. State your interest in hearing their opinions and positions on the issues you will list in your letter.

Suggest using a period during one of the many small public meetings they hold. Rather than an individual written response as you know their time is valuable and that venue would allow a number of people to participate.

From my experience, I believe you will be pleased with the response. If not perhaps all the answers to your questions.

WRONG... God is the DIVINE Law Maker.

Man tends to mess things up when he deviates from them.

'Man Made Law' is the tool of Tyrants.

Yes. Many of the Generation X and Generation Y are beyond redemption already.

We the older generations are responsible for your despicable character.

Whether from disinterest or our misguided attempt to help you become more than we ever were... we failed you.

It is indeed sad to stand by and watch some of you self-destruct.

Fortunately the numbers of the dysfunctional among you are relatively low and mankind will carry on without you.

Good to hear there has not been a third negative 'Officer Contact'... you may have learned from the first two.

Those 'Officers' may well have been Soldiers at one time. With a duty which required terminating aggressors. If so, they then carry with them the mental and moral price paid for protecting your Freedom.

With those thoughts ever in their mind it must be sometimes difficult to see what you have done with that hard won freedom.

Harder yet not to take back what they have preserved for you.

Respect yourself, so others may respect you.

People always forget that the total number isn't what is real. Normally 1/3 will be standing down, refitting and resting- 1/3 will be training and 1/3 will be deployed.

And then you have the teeth to tail ratio of about 10 to 1.

For those who don't understand, that means that for every actual combatant there are 10 support personnel.

This cuts the numbers down significantly.

The US Government will take up arms against its own citizens without reservation. And it will not distinguish any single citizen from another, Veteran or otherwise. This has already happened before but was conveniently omitted from your text books in school. Ironically, under a very similar historical context.

The Bonus Army

In 1924, a grateful Congress voted to give a bonus to World War I veterans - $1.25 for each day served overseas, $1.00 for each day served in the States. The catch was that payment would not be made until 1945. However, by 1932 the nation had slipped into the dark days of the Depression and the unemployed veterans wanted their money immediately.
In May of that year, some 15,000 veterans, many unemployed and destitute, descended on Washington, D.C. to demand immediate payment of their bonus. They proclaimed themselves the Bonus Expeditionary Force but the public dubbed them the "Bonus Army." Raising ramshackle camps at various places around the city, they waited.

The veterans made their largest camp at Anacostia Flats across the river from the Capitol. Approximately 10,000 veterans, women and children lived in the shelters built from materials dragged out of a junk pile nearby - old lumber, packing boxes and scrap tin covered with roofs of thatched straw.

Discipline in the camp was good, despite the fears of many city residents who spread unfounded "Red Scare" rumors. Streets were laid out, latrines dug, and formations held daily. Newcomers were required to register and prove they were bonafide veterans who had been honorably discharged. Their leader, Walter Waters, stated, "We're here for the duration and we're not going to starve. We're going to keep ourselves a simon-pure veteran's organization. If the Bonus is paid it will relieve to a large extent the deplorable economic condition."

June 17 was described by a local newspaper as "the tensest day in the capital since the war." The Senate was voting on the bill already passed by the House to immediately give the vets their bonus money. By dusk, 10,000 marchers crowded the Capitol grounds expectantly awaiting the outcome. Walter Waters, leader of the Bonus Expeditionary Force, appeared with bad news. The Senate had defeated the bill by a vote of 62 to 18. The crowd reacted with stunned silence. "Sing America and go back to your billets" he commanded, and they did. A silent "Death March" began in front of the Capitol and lasted until July 17, when Congress adjourned.

A month later, on July 28, Attorney General Mitchell ordered the evacuation of the veterans from all government property, Entrusted with the job, the Washington police met with resistance, shots were fired and two marchers killed. Learning of the shooting at lunch, President Hoover ordered the army to clear out the veterans. Infantry and cavalry supported by six tanks were dispatched with Chief of Staff General Douglas MacArthur in command. Major Dwight D. Eisenhower served as his liaison with Washington police and Major George Patton led the cavalry.

By 4:45 P.M. the troops were massed on Pennsylvania Ave. below the Capitol. Thousands of Civil Service employees spilled out of work and lined the streets to watch. The veterans, assuming the military display was in their honor, cheered. Suddenly Patton's troopers turned and charged. "Shame, Shame" the spectators cried. Soldiers with fixed bayonets followed, hurling tear gas into the crowd.

By nightfall the BEF had retreated across the Anacostia River where Hoover ordered MacArthur to stop. Ignoring the command, the general led his infantry to the main camp. By early morning the 10,000 inhabitants were routed and the camp in flames. Two babies died and nearby hospitals overwhelmed with casualties. Eisenhower later wrote, "the whole scene was pitiful. The veterans were ragged, ill-fed, and felt themselves badly abused. To suddenly see the whole encampment going up in flames just added to the pity."

1. this was in 1932. A very different time so to offer this as evidence is disingenuous at best

2. The issue in 1932 was money. The issue now is defending the BOR and resisting a clear marxist takeover of the US Gubmint.

Quite a different situation then as now.


3. People being what they are and soldiers being what they are, some will obey like the mindless things they are.

But some won't because they aren't mindless cowardly things.

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 01/07/2013 03:17 PM

You are falling to the OMG the feds are so powerful nothing can stop them.


Yes, they still prosecute because they have to hang onto their power because they see it slipping away.

Sheriffs have successfully stopped feds in many cases. You don't know about these cases because the propaganda arm of the fedguv, the MSM, doesn't want you to know.

You have to understand this is a struggle between opposing factions. It will take time. Fedguv will not give up just because we are right. But in the end they Will lose.