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Etta User ID: 29500354 United States 01/06/2013 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | states that will not protect innocent children in their state from certain death by abortion have already relingquished all of their constitutional rights. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27749090 the first duty of government is to protect the innocent from being killed. states that allow children to be killed before birth are already offering up blood sacrifice to the powers that rule over them. states have no power to change anything that is happening while they do not stop the killing of children in their states. as long as the killing continues everything that is happening works against us because Righteousness and Justice is not with us. we make Him our enemy by killing His children and He works against us while we embrace wickedness. the only answer that affords hope at this time is for states to stop killing children by abortion and protect them by law. that embraces life and love and repentance before our Creator Who has the power to change things. as long as we kill them we have already decided it is hopeless. The best part of abortion is that it mostly disposes of future liberals. “Expectations are the root of all heartache” "I like all of the races, even the bad ones." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31383418 United States 01/06/2013 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people are the inciters. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31639332 You are working yourselves into a frenzy simply because the gov and gun control advocates want to CONTROL gun sales and use. If there is a civil war because of this it won't be because of the government or what you morons perceive as the "bad guys" - it will be because of all you hysterical, constitutional-leaning, trigger-happy gun fanatics! right, you try and claim control over someone else and when they dont capitulate- you call them the instigators. derp. |
Enough already User ID: 27192275 United States 01/06/2013 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No citizen is above the law. There is no "natural right" to firearms. If the legislature enacts further restrictions on gun ownership, and the courts uphold those restrictions as constitutional, it's a done deal. You want to be an outlaw, be an outlaw, but outlaws ultimately go to jail. Quoting: Enough already 27192275 I claim my natural rights, you dont get to pick for me. self defense is my right. no piece of paper can or will ever change that. If you live in the United States, you are bound by its laws. Claim all the "natural rights" you like - as long as they don't violate applicable law, you'll be just fine. The right to self defense differs depending which state you live in, by the way. The castle doctrine is not universal. |
Enough already User ID: 27192275 United States 01/06/2013 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Enough already 27192275 What's your point, that the constitution does not permit any laws regulating private ownership of arms? Are you stupid or just ignorant? Well, you just quoted it. Care to point out where the amendment is unclear? Try taking a handgun onto an airplane. Current laws INFRINGE upon the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to BEAR ARMS on airplanes. Do you think these restrictions violate the second amendment? an airplane is private property boob So you believe the second amendment does not extend to bearing arms on private property? |
uscrusader1 User ID: 9491757 United States 01/06/2013 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try taking a handgun onto an airplane. Current laws INFRINGE upon the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to BEAR ARMS on airplanes. Do you think these restrictions violate the second amendment? Quoting: Enough alreadyBeen here 2 weeks on GLP and already a labeled commie obongo shill. Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 01/06/2013 06:00 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18209448 United States 01/06/2013 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: uscrusader1 communist... "...The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bears arms, SHALL NOT be infringed." Done deal. What's your point, that the constitution does not permit any laws regulating private ownership of arms? Are you stupid or just ignorant? Well, you just quoted it. Care to point out where the amendment is unclear? Try taking a handgun onto an airplane. Current laws INFRINGE upon the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to BEAR ARMS on airplanes. Do you think these restrictions violate the second amendment? That would be up to the plane's owner/company. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be infringed means the .Gov cannot make laws infringing on your right to keep and bear arms. It's quite simple. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18209448 United States 01/06/2013 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18209448 Well, you just quoted it. Care to point out where the amendment is unclear? Try taking a handgun onto an airplane. Current laws INFRINGE upon the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to BEAR ARMS on airplanes. Do you think these restrictions violate the second amendment? an airplane is private property boob So you believe the second amendment does not extend to bearing arms on private property? Not if the owner of the private property objects. The Constitution is a document containing the Government. Not its citizens to dictate rules for their property. |
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Enough already User ID: 27192275 United States 01/06/2013 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try taking a handgun onto an airplane. Current laws INFRINGE upon the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to BEAR ARMS on airplanes. Do you think these restrictions violate the second amendment? Quoting: Enough alreadyBeen here 2 weeks on GLP and already a labeled commie obongo shill. It's a badge of honor |
Enough already User ID: 27192275 United States 01/06/2013 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Enough already 27192275 Try taking a handgun onto an airplane. Current laws INFRINGE upon the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to BEAR ARMS on airplanes. Do you think these restrictions violate the second amendment? an airplane is private property boob So you believe the second amendment does not extend to bearing arms on private property? Not if the owner of the private property objects. The Constitution is a document containing the Government. Not its citizens to dictate rules for their property. Okay - what about laws that prohibit you from bringing a handgun into a courthouse - that's public property. Are these laws unconstitutional because they infringe upon the people's right to bear arms? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31638638 United States 01/06/2013 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No citizen is above the law. There is no "natural right" to firearms. If the legislature enacts further restrictions on gun ownership, and the courts uphold those restrictions as constitutional, it's a done deal. You want to be an outlaw, be an outlaw, but outlaws ultimately go to jail. Quoting: Enough already 27192275 But we are supposed to be living in a REPUBLIC...and it is wrong on every level to take away the 2nd amendment....it is an outlaw government now trying to tyrannize law abiding citizens who have every right to be armed. The government is the outlaw, not the law abiding citizens |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18209448 United States 01/06/2013 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you believe the second amendment does not extend to bearing arms on private property? Not if the owner of the private property objects. The Constitution is a document containing the Government. Not its citizens to dictate rules for their property. Okay - what about laws that prohibit you from bringing a handgun into a courthouse - that's public property. Are these laws unconstitutional because they infringe upon the people's right to bear arms? Yes. A public law, enacted by a government, cannot infringe on your ability to keep and bare arms. |
uscrusader1 User ID: 9491757 United States 01/06/2013 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a badge of honor Quoting: enough alreadyAnd your pass for the 'short bus'. Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 01/06/2013 06:07 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27192275 United States 01/06/2013 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Enough already 27192275 So you believe the second amendment does not extend to bearing arms on private property? Not if the owner of the private property objects. The Constitution is a document containing the Government. Not its citizens to dictate rules for their property. Okay - what about laws that prohibit you from bringing a handgun into a courthouse - that's public property. Are these laws unconstitutional because they infringe upon the people's right to bear arms? Yes. A public law, enacted by a government, cannot infringe on your ability to keep and bare arms. So the government cannot enact any laws regulating guns but private citizens can? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16213727 United States 01/06/2013 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You people are the inciters. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31639332 You are working yourselves into a frenzy simply because the gov and gun control advocates want to CONTROL gun sales and use. If there is a civil war because of this it won't be because of the government or what you morons perceive as the "bad guys" - it will be because of all you hysterical, constitutional-leaning, trigger-happy gun fanatics! right, you try and claim control over someone else and when they dont capitulate- you call them the instigators. derp. funny how that works, huh? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18209448 United States 01/06/2013 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18209448 Not if the owner of the private property objects. The Constitution is a document containing the Government. Not its citizens to dictate rules for their property. Okay - what about laws that prohibit you from bringing a handgun into a courthouse - that's public property. Are these laws unconstitutional because they infringe upon the people's right to bear arms? Yes. A public law, enacted by a government, cannot infringe on your ability to keep and bare arms. So the government cannot enact any laws regulating guns but private citizens can? No, a private citizen cannot enact his own laws, but he CAN dictate what occurs on his own property. The Constitution limits only what the Government can enact, it has no bearing on what citizens can do on their own property. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16213727 United States 01/06/2013 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18209448 Well, you just quoted it. Care to point out where the amendment is unclear? Try taking a handgun onto an airplane. Current laws INFRINGE upon the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to BEAR ARMS on airplanes. Do you think these restrictions violate the second amendment? an airplane is private property boob So you believe the second amendment does not extend to bearing arms on private property? I own private property and anyone I know can carry arms here. If I owned an airplane that carries the public no one will be allowed on without one. Keeps every one on an even playing field. |
Enough already User ID: 27192275 United States 01/06/2013 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Enough already 27192275 Okay - what about laws that prohibit you from bringing a handgun into a courthouse - that's public property. Are these laws unconstitutional because they infringe upon the people's right to bear arms? Yes. A public law, enacted by a government, cannot infringe on your ability to keep and bare arms. So the government cannot enact any laws regulating guns but private citizens can? No, a private citizen cannot enact his own laws, but he CAN dictate what occurs on his own property. The Constitution limits only what the Government can enact, it has no bearing on what citizens can do on their own property. Following your reasoning, if the government buys property from a private owner, does not the government then have the power to dictate what occurs on its own property? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18209448 United States 01/06/2013 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18209448 Yes. A public law, enacted by a government, cannot infringe on your ability to keep and bare arms. So the government cannot enact any laws regulating guns but private citizens can? No, a private citizen cannot enact his own laws, but he CAN dictate what occurs on his own property. The Constitution limits only what the Government can enact, it has no bearing on what citizens can do on their own property. Following your reasoning, if the government buys property from a private owner, does not the government then have the power to dictate what occurs on its own property? The Government has force of law behind it. It also cannot own anything. You and I, and every American citizen own public land. The government owns and creates nothing. |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 01/06/2013 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm in South Eastern Montana, and will verify the sentiments of the OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30087131 People out here won't take legislation lying down. Seriously. People like to talk a big talk and but when it comes time to toe the line, most will back off if they think noone is watching. This isn't the case in MT. Just make sure that when you see those who are strong enough actually take a stand, that you join the cause and be one of those that actually stood for something. You have to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. Period. We don't like being told what we can or cannot do. I NEVER had any real desire for a semi-auto rifle of any type, but at the mere thought of someone being able to take my right to do so away, I went out the morning after the 'shooting' and filled that hole in my safe. Jussayin'. I think it's true in Nevada as well. |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 01/06/2013 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18209448 Yes. A public law, enacted by a government, cannot infringe on your ability to keep and bare arms. So the government cannot enact any laws regulating guns but private citizens can? No, a private citizen cannot enact his own laws, but he CAN dictate what occurs on his own property. The Constitution limits only what the Government can enact, it has no bearing on what citizens can do on their own property. Following your reasoning, if the government buys property from a private owner, does not the government then have the power to dictate what occurs on its own property? You seem to be saying albeit in a twisted way that the government owns the people and you specifically. Do you think you are the property of the government? |
s. d. butler User ID: 974819 United States 01/06/2013 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18209448 Not if the owner of the private property objects. The Constitution is a document containing the Government. Not its citizens to dictate rules for their property. Okay - what about laws that prohibit you from bringing a handgun into a courthouse - that's public property. Are these laws unconstitutional because they infringe upon the people's right to bear arms? Yes. A public law, enacted by a government, cannot infringe on your ability to keep and bare arms. So the government cannot enact any laws regulating guns but private citizens can? Well guy if you don't want to be armed you don't have to be. And that is as far as you can go. |
Enough already User ID: 27192275 United States 01/06/2013 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27192275 So the government cannot enact any laws regulating guns but private citizens can? No, a private citizen cannot enact his own laws, but he CAN dictate what occurs on his own property. The Constitution limits only what the Government can enact, it has no bearing on what citizens can do on their own property. Following your reasoning, if the government buys property from a private owner, does not the government then have the power to dictate what occurs on its own property? The Government has force of law behind it. It also cannot own anything. You and I, and every American citizen own public land. The government owns and creates nothing. You might be surprised to learn that the federal government owns about 30% of the land in this country, but that's another point. So in your vision of America, all public spaces are exempt from any firearms regulations, correct? Anyone should be able to bring a loaded gun into a every courthouse, a public school, the U.S. Capital, etc. Is that correct? |
last one I just don't give a fuck User ID: 30472255 United States 01/06/2013 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No citizen is above the law. There is no "natural right" to firearms. If the legislature enacts further restrictions on gun ownership, and the courts uphold those restrictions as constitutional, it's a done deal. You want to be an outlaw, be an outlaw, but outlaws ultimately go to jail. Quoting: Enough already 27192275 Sounds like they should be building a shit-load of jails pretty quick, then. Just sayin'. If I'd known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better care of myself.---Grandpa Rednecks, hillbillies, and cowboys will save the nation---me I dreamed I was drinkin', woke up and I was "we put our faith in maniacs"- Lemmy Kilmister |
Enough already User ID: 27192275 United States 01/06/2013 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27192275 So the government cannot enact any laws regulating guns but private citizens can? No, a private citizen cannot enact his own laws, but he CAN dictate what occurs on his own property. The Constitution limits only what the Government can enact, it has no bearing on what citizens can do on their own property. Following your reasoning, if the government buys property from a private owner, does not the government then have the power to dictate what occurs on its own property? You seem to be saying albeit in a twisted way that the government owns the people and you specifically. Do you think you are the property of the government? I'm not saying that at all. I'm testing this guy's reasoning. I do not think I am the property of the government. |
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