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Try to DISCREDIT this Suntards/Nibiru Tards

 
Hydra

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Please I beg you DON'T START!!! Otherwise Denise is going to show up again with her videos claiming that Saturn and Jupiter are tilted 90 degrees.
 Quoting: UndercoverAlien

Where is the problem?

If she or one of here believers shows up, I'll show them how I can tilt Jupiter and Saturn by 360° in just some seconds - reduceing her claims to absurdity in said seconds.


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 Quoting: Hydra


Wouldn't arguments like this be the same reason Denise's prove nothing? Because they can be faked?
 Quoting: aliensbro

Sure - that's the reason why you need a reference, like the horizon or star in the vicinity of the object.

Has Denise a reference in her videos? No.
That are not even her own photos she uses for her videos - just grabbed it all over the web without any clue of the mount used and scope / camera orientation.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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He SAID the sun is below the (smaller) object, which you can see it is here:

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4781813

And I said the sun is the smaller object behind a cloud layer and the bright spot is just sun rays escaping through a gap in the clouds.
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Plausible, but I don't think so because he was unable to look directly at the SUN which if it were simply rays of light it wouldn't have been a problem, but was able to look directly at the smaller bright object above it -- and there's not much cloud cover right there at that time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4781813

Please look at this video - same situation.
Gap in the clouds also much brighter than cloud covered sun:



It's definitely the sun in the above video - proof by sun spots:
Thread: Planet X and Moon Swirls Visible in Germany


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 Quoting: Hydra


Hello
The object in this video looks like the same color and size. I saw multiple sunspots like at least 6. This is not iur sun though because I wouldn't have been able to see it through my telescope with sunglasses. Our sun is just too powerful for that. I tried welders glasses with sunglasses and that works.

So whatever this object is it has sunspots.
odinson222

A Man Has Got to Know His Limitations

I am just a sinner trying to make it to heaven!

Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
odinson222

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Regardless of whether people are seeing an object or not, do you have ANY idea how much gravitational influence a second star would have on our solarsystem? Look at our sun, & how far it's influence goes, Sedna! Is a trans-Neptunian object with an aphelion of approx. 937 AU. That's nine hundred & thirty seven TIMES the distance of earth to the sun. & it's under the gravitational influence of our main sequence star.

If there really was a brown dwarf behind our star, why haven't we noticed changes in orbit trajectories of any planets yet? Despite its smaller size & mass, it's gravitational influence would still affect the planets within our solar system.
 Quoting: 404error


Hello

I am having the same problem with it as you are. I would say the same thing about this but I have seen it now for myself. Also, so many people claim to just see it in the car and may just snap a pic of it or 2 and we have this grand discussion of it being the moon or something.

In this case, I was able to get my scope on it to see the surface and it definitely wasn't the moon. So we finally had someone look in that regard.

God Bless
odinson222

A Man Has Got to Know His Limitations

I am just a sinner trying to make it to heaven!

Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Hydra

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Hello
The object in this video [ [link to www.youtube.com] ] looks like the same color and size. I saw multiple sunspots like at least 6. This is not iur sun though because I wouldn't have been able to see it through my telescope with sunglasses. Our sun is just too powerful for that. I tried welders glasses with sunglasses and that works.

So whatever this object is it has sunspots.
 Quoting: odinson222

Regardless of whether people are seeing an object or not, do you have ANY idea how much gravitational influence a second star would have on our solarsystem? Look at our sun, & how far it's influence goes, Sedna! Is a trans-Neptunian object with an aphelion of approx. 937 AU. That's nine hundred & thirty seven TIMES the distance of earth to the sun. & it's under the gravitational influence of our main sequence star.

If there really was a brown dwarf behind our star, why haven't we noticed changes in orbit trajectories of any planets yet? Despite its smaller size & mass, it's gravitational influence would still affect the planets within our solar system.
 Quoting: 404error


Hello

I am having the same problem with it as you are. I would say the same thing about this but I have seen it now for myself. Also, so many people claim to just see it in the car and may just snap a pic of it or 2 and we have this grand discussion of it being the moon or something.

In this case, I was able to get my scope on it to see the surface and it definitely wasn't the moon. So we finally had someone look in that regard.

God Bless
 Quoting: odinson222

Why cant we see the sun, when it's cloudy? - Because the light of the sun is subdued by the clouds.
With thinner cloud layers the loss of light gets less, until you can see a hazy disk of the sun.

In your photos your alleged "second sun" has the brightness of the moon when it's up during daytime.
Can you look at the moon with your telescope?
So why do you think you couldn't look at the sun under this conditions?

And so many people see a second sun?
Didn't you notice, that every day less people see a second sun?
They realized, that they were betrayed by lens and filter flares and fake photos.

It seems you are just one of Poleshit-Nancys last believers.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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You used a telescope during the day to look at the sun?

LOL!
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I have a filter you can use for eclipses or other celestial events. When venus crossed in front of the sun and earth, I used it to see the little black speck cross the sun's surface. I haven't seen anything behind the sun. I've been looking regularly.
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You used a telescope during the day to look at the sun?

LOL!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3555102


not that weird. If you place a plate at the end of the scope you can view the 'mirror' of the sun. it's like looking at a negative of it.
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You may have seen a sundog, an atmospheric phenomenon caused by ice crystals in the upper atmosphere that produces 22° halos and bright spots in the sky.
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odinson222

A Man Has Got to Know His Limitations

I am just a sinner trying to make it to heaven!

Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Hello
One thing that I niticed is that I did not see a solid surface. I just saw dark spots but truly no solid surface. Maybe that is the reasin of no noticeable effects were seen. I am with some of the guys who say that. Another object of that size should cause all kind of chaos.

I am truly stumped at this moment. I know what all of us gas seen but how can we see it and yet live as nothing has occurred? This is no flare. It us an object but how ci uld it be here? It is against all the laws of science that I know.

If it is nit natural is it supernatural? I am perplexed and I will be thinking on this for days to come.
Good night
 Quoting: odinson222


Learn about atmospheric optics

[link to www.atoptics.co.uk]
odinson222

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Hello
One thing that I niticed is that I did not see a solid surface. I just saw dark spots but truly no solid surface. Maybe that is the reasin of no noticeable effects were seen. I am with some of the guys who say that. Another object of that size should cause all kind of chaos.

I am truly stumped at this moment. I know what all of us gas seen but how can we see it and yet live as nothing has occurred? This is no flare. It us an object but how ci uld it be here? It is against all the laws of science that I know.

If it is nit natural is it supernatural? I am perplexed and I will be thinking on this for days to come.
Good night
 Quoting: odinson222


Learn about atmospheric optics

[link to www.atoptics.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33037330


This was no optical trick!
odinson222

A Man Has Got to Know His Limitations

I am just a sinner trying to make it to heaven!

Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Where are u located OP? I dont think it would look the same to every one, depending on where u are.. I believe you. I keep looking up from where I am in Ontario..but i only see the sun and a few dozen chemtrails..

Someone from Cali posted similar pics like this a few weeks ago.
also, just because it is bright does not mean its another sun. Like the moon, it could just have brightness because of the sun glaring off of it.
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I know what you are saying OP...I have surveillance videos around my house and saw these images in the monitor from inside my home. This seems to be a reflection of the sun on one of my cars. But it is not just one sun, but two. I never could explain them. I was able to see these images for several days before moving my car to another area of my driveway.

[link to s1263.beta.photobucket.com]

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Nice pictures of the sun, dude. Mind if I take pictures of my moon and send them to you?
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Hello
One thing that I niticed is that I did not see a solid surface. I just saw dark spots but truly no solid surface. Maybe that is the reasin of no noticeable effects were seen. I am with some of the guys who say that. Another object of that size should cause all kind of chaos.

I am truly stumped at this moment. I know what all of us gas seen but how can we see it and yet live as nothing has occurred? This is no flare. It us an object but how ci uld it be here? It is against all the laws of science that I know.

If it is nit natural is it supernatural? I am perplexed and I will be thinking on this for days to come.
Good night
 Quoting: odinson222


Learn about atmospheric optics

[link to www.atoptics.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33037330


This was no optical trick!
 Quoting: odinson222


No it wasn't a trick, it was just reflections off clouds and ice. Nothing more. People who spent actual time looking at the world they lived in noticed such things centuries ago. You people spend your time glued to the TV and computer and can't imagine that something can't fit your preconceived notions.
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It is strange OP but in all honesty it looks normal.
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Where are u located OP? I dont think it would look the same to every one, depending on where u are.. I believe you. I keep looking up from where I am in Ontario..but i only see the sun and a few dozen chemtrails..

Someone from Cali posted similar pics like this a few weeks ago.
also, just because it is bright does not mean its another sun. Like the moon, it could just have brightness because of the sun glaring off of it.
 Quoting: squirrely23


Hello
I am in the eastern panhandle of west virginia. The pics does this no justice. With sunglasses I saw two brightly lit objects one being surely the sun. The sun got covered by the chem trails. The second object went into another direction away from the sun hence the pics with the one object. That was what I concentrated on.

I can't make this any clearer than that. I used a telescope to look on the surface of it with a 25 mm optic. I saw no land marks only black specs which to me was sunspot related.

I will not comment anymore. It is lurking there probably behind the sun somehow. People will see it in God's timeline. Then what will you do when it is evidently there.

God bless
odinson222

A Man Has Got to Know His Limitations

I am just a sinner trying to make it to heaven!

Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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I know what you are saying OP...I have surveillance videos around my house and saw these images in the monitor from inside my home. This seems to be a reflection of the sun on one of my cars. But it is not just one sun, but two. I never could explain them. I was able to see these images for several days before moving my car to another area of my driveway.

[link to s1263.beta.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: Deb1964


Hello
Looks good but from there many can explain it away. But it is there. See people what bugs me is that I am a man of science and I can't explain it. I am left with it being suoernatural. It shouldnt be there! But it is!
odinson222

A Man Has Got to Know His Limitations

I am just a sinner trying to make it to heaven!

Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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It is strange OP but in all honesty it looks normal.
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I know that pics were after I saw the objects out of the clouds and by the time I took the photos the clouds came back in. Do you guys really think that tge objects will hold their positions while I fidget wuth a camera?
odinson222

A Man Has Got to Know His Limitations

I am just a sinner trying to make it to heaven!

Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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Why not contact a local astronomy club for their opinion?

[link to www.caacwv.com]
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[link to postimage.org]
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Over a week ago while I was driving home, I noticed the same object , which I will call SS, peeking out through the clouds again. I looked at it with no sunglasses and it did not hurt my eyes. It was sort of looking at the moon. You can see it clearly and it didn't hurt your eyes.

In the distance beyond the SS I saw the sun's rays peeking through the clouds and I was like here we go again. Then SS went under cloud cover and seem to go past where the sun was. Then the sun came out of the clouds and I couldn't bear to look at it. As I was driving I was tracking it with the top most part of the windshiend and the color band.

It cleared up for a moment and looked like SS and then it got even brighter and started to move down vertically from the point at the top of the windshield to just below the color band and within seconds it went to its rightful position at the top of the windshield.

I was just amazed and blinded by this so I pulled over and got a couple of shots off. The WTF 3 is the second shot that I took of this event and the first the object was just higher up than the second photo.

The WTF 3 photo is the original. The other 2 photos are of the same shot just being brightened and darkened.

What do you make of this?
odinson222

A Man Has Got to Know His Limitations

I am just a sinner trying to make it to heaven!

Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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[link to postimage.org]
[link to postimage.org]
[link to postimage.org]

Over a week ago while I was driving home, I noticed the same object , which I will call SS, peeking out through the clouds again. I looked at it with no sunglasses and it did not hurt my eyes. It was sort of looking at the moon. You can see it clearly and it didn't hurt your eyes.

In the distance beyond the SS I saw the sun's rays peeking through the clouds and I was like here we go again. Then SS went under cloud cover and seem to go past where the sun was. Then the sun came out of the clouds and I couldn't bear to look at it. As I was driving I was tracking it with the top most part of the windshiend and the color band.

It cleared up for a moment and looked like SS and then it got even brighter and started to move down vertically from the point at the top of the windshield to just below the color band and within seconds it went to its rightful position at the top of the windshield.

I was just amazed and blinded by this so I pulled over and got a couple of shots off. The WTF 3 is the second shot that I took of this event and the first the object was just higher up than the second photo.

The WTF 3 photo is the original. The other 2 photos are of the same shot just being brightened and darkened.

What do you make of this?
 Quoting: odinson222


I felt at the time that this was a spiritual sight for me.

God Bless
odinson222

A Man Has Got to Know His Limitations

I am just a sinner trying to make it to heaven!

Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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