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"he National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) has been flying the radiation missions since Dec. 27, 2012 and they will continue until next Friday, Jan. 11. The flights have been conducted during daylight only, and the pilots fly about 80 miles per hour at 150 feet above the approximately 70-square mile radiation assessment area."



We live in this area. I don't know if this is normal SOP or not.
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[link to www.radiationnetwork.com]
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its (46) in Connecticut??
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now (63) in Michigan every time I hit refresh the numbers have been changing

(60) in Arizona

(59) in Colorado
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I want to say, I've heard helicopters buzzing tree tops...last month. I've given up getting alarmed about stuff around here. Live 10 minutes from Camp David and Site "R" and another 15 from Detrick. Somedays it sounds like a war zone somewhere in the mountains. One day about three months after 9/11 some type of fighter plane buzzed our little subdivision. Shook the house, made the dog bark and scared the kid. I don't know I've ever seen a bulletin like this though.

thanks for the pin!

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"he National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) has been flying the radiation missions since Dec. 27, 2012 and they will continue until next Friday, Jan. 11. The flights have been conducted during daylight only, and the pilots fly about 80 miles per hour at 150 feet above the approximately 70-square mile radiation assessment area."



We live in this area. I don't know if this is normal SOP or not.
 Quoting: warrior poet


it is not normal. the info came on WTOP a few weeks ago and it sounds like they are getting baselines. weird.
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"he National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) has been flying the radiation missions since Dec. 27, 2012 and they will continue until next Friday, Jan. 11. The flights have been conducted during daylight only, and the pilots fly about 80 miles per hour at 150 feet above the approximately 70-square mile radiation assessment area."



We live in this area. I don't know if this is normal SOP or not.
 Quoting: warrior poet


it is not normal. the info came on WTOP a few weeks ago and it sounds like they are getting baselines. weird.
 Quoting: Ricky Retardo


That's what bothers me, the new normal isn't so normal anymore. Glad to see others from the Metro area have heard this as well.
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Thread: What's Going On: Low-flying helicopters over Berkeley are measuring radiation levels


Similar thread from other parts of the country..
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now (63) in Michigan every time I hit refresh the numbers have been changing

(60) in Arizona

(59) in Colorado
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Pre-Fukushima those levels were all averaging 10 to 30.

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My Idea:

They just update their Radiation Maps and look
for Radon Hot Spots which are dangerous!

If there would be a Danger they would not use a Helicopter
because the observed Space is too small!
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They don't need helicopters to test Fuku fallout material.

The government measures that well enough from the ground, and the information is far more detailed then they release to the public, and unaltered.

This sort of survey and its resolution would only be useful in terms of intentionally created concentrations of materials which emit neutrons, such as hidden nuclear weapons or other illicit concentrations of materials.

If this is the case then it is something the govt. should be doing all along anyhow.

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My Idea:

They just update their Radiation Maps and look
for Radon Hot Spots which are dangerous!

If there would be a Danger they would not use a Helicopter
because the observed Space is too small!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31644583


PISS OFF YOU TEPCO SHILL.
Every time their is a radiation thread you Jap shills show up with your disinfo bullshit.


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it is not normal. the info came on WTOP a few weeks ago and it sounds like they are getting baselines. weird.
 Quoting: Ricky Retardo


They ALREADY HAVE a Baseline ... so they are LOOKING FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC!!

VERY UNUSUAL, particularly the extremely low altitude. They don't need to be that low in order to get a "Baseline" of the background radiation.

Something that "can" have a detectable radiation signature IS LOOSE our there ... but exactly what they obviously are NOT going to say. Shoot it may not even be in the area being searched, but the fact that they are actively searching that area indicates that is where they think the target is so they want to check out the entire area around what they think the target is.
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My Idea:

They just update their Radiation Maps and look
for Radon Hot Spots which are dangerous!

If there would be a Danger they would not use a Helicopter
because the observed Space is too small!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31644583


PISS OFF YOU TEPCO SHILL.
Everytime their is a radiation thread you Jap shills show up with your disinfor bullshit.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


And Nothingknowtards like you add the Mustard!

You can talk about Dicks, Poposex, Justin Biber, Toilets and Dating
but i like to talk about Radiation because it is one
of the most important Topics of Today!
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My Idea:

They just update their Radiation Maps and look
for Radon Hot Spots which are dangerous!

If there would be a Danger they would not use a Helicopter
because the observed Space is too small!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31644583


PISS OFF YOU TEPCO SHILL.
Everytime their is a radiation thread you Jap shills show up with your disinfor bullshit.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


And Nothingknowtards like you add the Mustard!

You can talk about Dicks, Poposex, Justin Biber, Toilets and Dating
but i like to talk about Radiation because it is one
of the most important Topics of Today!
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siren2 shill siren2


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"he National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) has been flying the radiation missions since Dec. 27, 2012 and they will continue until next Friday, Jan. 11. The flights have been conducted during daylight only, and the pilots fly about 80 miles per hour at 150 feet above the approximately 70-square mile radiation assessment area."



We live in this area. I don't know if this is normal SOP or not.
 Quoting: warrior poet


I live in the area, as well. Been having bloody sinus for a couple weeks and wondering if I am the only one.
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it is not normal. the info came on WTOP a few weeks ago and it sounds like they are getting baselines. weird.
 Quoting: Ricky Retardo


They ALREADY HAVE a Baseline ... so they are LOOKING FOR SOMETHING SPECIFIC!!

VERY UNUSUAL, particularly the extremely low altitude. They don't need to be that low in order to get a "Baseline" of the background radiation.

Something that "can" have a detectable radiation signature IS LOOSE our there ... but exactly what they obviously are NOT going to say. Shoot it may not even be in the area being searched, but the fact that they are actively searching that area indicates that is where they think the target is so they want to check out the entire area around what they think the target is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25450407


This is very doubtful because a Detection with a Helicopter
is by far too noisy, in that case they would come with a Special Unit who look for something "hidden"

I still think they just look for a updated Radon Map:
Unlike all the other intermediate elements in the aforementioned decay chains, radon is gaseous and so easily inhaled. Thus, even in this age of nuclear reactors, naturally-occurring radon is responsible for the majority of the public exposure to ionizing radiation. It is often the single largest contributor to an individual's background radiation dose, and is the most variable from location to location. Despite its short lifetime, some radon gas from natural sources can accumulate to far higher than normal concentrations in buildings, especially in confined areas such as attics and basements. It can also be found in some spring waters and hot springs.[4]

Epidemiological studies have shown a clear link between breathing high concentrations of radon and incidence of lung cancer. Thus, radon is considered a significant contaminant that affects indoor air quality worldwide. According to the United States Environmental Protection Agency, radon is the second most frequent cause of lung cancer, after cigarette smoking, causing 21,000 lung cancer deaths per year in the United States. About 2,900 of these deaths occur among people who have never smoked. While radon is the second most frequent cause of lung cancer, it is the number one cause among non-smokers, according to EPA estimates.[5]
Source: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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"he National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) has been flying the radiation missions since Dec. 27, 2012 and they will continue until next Friday, Jan. 11. The flights have been conducted during daylight only, and the pilots fly about 80 miles per hour at 150 feet above the approximately 70-square mile radiation assessment area."



We live in this area. I don't know if this is normal SOP or not.
 Quoting: warrior poet


I live in the area, as well. Been having bloody sinus for a couple weeks and wondering if I am the only one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27168536


Everyone in my house was/is ill with symptoms. Went to ER two weeks ago. Doctor said it was a sinus infection. It's a persistent bug, doesn't want to let go. I heard a helicopter about two/three weeks ago very low but again, due to the proximity of Ft. Detrick, site R etc, it could've been routine traffic but it warrants keeping an eye on things. Strange days
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interesting
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who cares?
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Maybe some one has been testing low level radiation tests without telling any one about it?

Or an accident has occurred and some one is keeping their mouth shut?
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who cares?
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Everyone with two firing braincells.

Guess that excludes you huh?
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Would be interesting to know on what grounds "portions" of the D.C. area were chosen and others were not. Two weeks of testing sounds quite extensive. On the face of it sounds very sensible in that if they were to be looking for something at some time in the future, they have a baseline to overlay that exactly matches the search conditions and criteria. Then again anyone looking to assemble or store something would know which areas to avoid.
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It would be interesting to compare the "flu" cases in the highest areas.
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"WASHINGTON, D.C. – The National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) will be flying a helicopter over portions of Baltimore, Md. to measure naturally occurring radiation between May 14 and 16, 2012"


it says, "naturally occuring"...I feel better about that.

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Didnt they raise the safe levels after the Japan thing happened?
Even had a news reporter telling us how good it was for us.
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It would be interesting to compare the "flu" cases in the highest areas.
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The flu is hitting Virginia hard this season
Virginia is one of 29 states seeing record numbers of flu and complaints of flu-like symptoms
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"WASHINGTON, D.C. – The National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) will be flying a helicopter over portions of Baltimore, Md. to measure naturally occurring radiation between May 14 and 16, 2012"


it says, "naturally occuring"...I feel better about that.
 Quoting: warrior poet


Maryland Flu Season: Hospitals See Surge Of Patients With Achy Bodies, Fevers And Sore Throats
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"Accept now that all you have seen from the day of your birth on the surface of the earth, to the present, are wonderful only because the finite mind of man is confused with fragments of evidence, that, from whatever direction we meet them, spring from an unreachable infinity."
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Didnt they raise the safe levels after the Japan thing happened?
Even had a news reporter telling us how good it was for us.
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Yes....both in Japan and the USA.
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Having read a local CBS/DC piece on the subject, this sounds strangely like a conditioning exercise of sorts. Radiation monitoring from low-flying helicopters...really???

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