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Gun fanatics: Rod Serling and the people on Maple Street have a message for you . . .

 
s. d. butler

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I thought it was rather childish, using as plot devices various tired hollywood stereotypes and situations.


The strangers as objects of suspicion
The tolerant one
the quick to jump to conclusions one
the fistfight
the strangers must be up to no good because...
the pulling of the gun
the build up for mob action
the mob action ending in burning the house

And the absurd ending, even more absurd than the show itself

How anyone can confuse this for anything even remotely approaching reality in our present or any circumstances is sad.

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OMG. You have ZERO notion of what the story was about.

Your posts on this forum have shown that you are obtuse and not capable of logical consideration.

The story is EXACTLY what is playing out right now in America. The gov is sitting back - just as the aliens did in the original and the gov in the remake - and they are taking notes on how "citizens" react as the mere THOUGHT that they might be restricted when it comes to personal defense.
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QMG your posts have shown you aren't capable of any thought at all.

I get and I'm sure everyone else gets the silly point that the government is sitting back and taking notes,so what?

I am supposed to be impressed? You have to be kidding.

And especially a TV show that is more than a little simplistic as I have already explained.

What feinstein wants, what obama wants and what they say they will do hardly amounts to "the mere Thought that they might be restricted" does it?

I very seriously doubt whether you or anyone else knows or can say "exactly what is playing out in America".

You have called people fanatics, paranoid and hysterical and claim that nothing will happen.

Then you go on to say, They won't take the guns but oh well maybe there will be registration and semi autos will be banned.

I don't think you understand the issues .

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QMG your posts have shown you aren't capable of any thought at all.

I get and I'm sure everyone else gets the silly point that the government is sitting back and taking notes,so what?

What feinstein wants, what obama wants and what they say they will do hardly amounts to "the mere Thought that they might be restricted" does it?
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QMG . . . ? LOL!!!!

Please stay off this thread because you don't have what's required to understand what it's about.

Run on now, go polish your gun and read your beloved constitution.
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You say us?

Perhaps someone should play this for the government.

They're the paranoid ones who started stripping us of our rights because they freaked out when 9/11 happened.

Now, they're freaking out because 1 out of 3.5 million people used a firearm to kill 20+ people.

The people opposing it are the ones trying to instill a sense of sanity into the whole mess.

Talk about right being wrong, black being white!!

The government is far more of a problem than the people on this forum!!
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QMG your posts have shown you aren't capable of any thought at all.

I get and I'm sure everyone else gets the silly point that the government is sitting back and taking notes,so what?

What feinstein wants, what obama wants and what they say they will do hardly amounts to "the mere Thought that they might be restricted" does it?
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QMG . . . ? LOL!!!!

Please stay off this thread because you don't have what's required to understand what it's about.

Run on now, go polish your gun and read your beloved constitution.
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"go polish your gun and read your beloved constitution."

Thanks. Now I know precisely where you are coming from.
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You say us?

Perhaps someone should play this for the government.

They're the paranoid ones who started stripping us of our rights because they freaked out when 9/11 happened.

Now, they're freaking out because 1 out of 3.5 million people used a firearm to kill 20+ people.

The people opposing it are the ones trying to instill a sense of sanity into the whole mess.

Talk about right being wrong, black being white!!

The government is far more of a problem than the people on this forum!!
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omg.

NO ONE understands this thread.
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You say us?

Perhaps someone should play this for the government.

They're the paranoid ones who started stripping us of our rights because they freaked out when 9/11 happened.

Now, they're freaking out because 1 out of 3.5 million people used a firearm to kill 20+ people.

The people opposing it are the ones trying to instill a sense of sanity into the whole mess.

Talk about right being wrong, black being white!!

The government is far more of a problem than the people on this forum!!
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You are correct. The "freak-out" came from the media first about Sandy Hook, before it came from gun-owners. There was no need to freak out about it and threaten law abiding citizens because of illegal/criminal activity to begin with.
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You say us?

Perhaps someone should play this for the government.

They're the paranoid ones who started stripping us of our rights because they freaked out when 9/11 happened.

Now, they're freaking out because 1 out of 3.5 million people used a firearm to kill 20+ people.

The people opposing it are the ones trying to instill a sense of sanity into the whole mess.

Talk about right being wrong, black being white!!

The government is far more of a problem than the people on this forum!!
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omg.

NO ONE understands this thread.
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This post you quoted on is correct. You tried to say gun owners are freaking out, but they were not the first. What kind of paranoid dilusional country are we to enforce naked-body-scanners on millions of people because of ONE underwear bomber? We punish EVERYONE because of ONE person. This Government is a joke.


“False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that it has no remedy for evils, except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are of such a nature. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” - Cesare Beccaria (18th century economist, writer and founder of the classical school of criminology, 1738-1794)
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Re: Gun fanatics: Rod Serling and the people on Maple Street have a message for you . . .
Hey, an enlightened one.

Hello fellow, I'm here too.

They will tell you they will take your guns.

Every man, woman and child will be dually armed.

Then the food will "run out".

Don't worry. They have bomb proof bunkers and thousands of truck loads of fuel, medicine and food.

Wake up.
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Hey, an enlightened one.

Hello fellow, I'm here too.

They will tell you they will take your guns.

Every man, woman and child will be dually armed.

Then the food will "run out".

Don't worry. They have bomb proof bunkers and thousands of truck loads of fuel, medicine and food.

Wake up.

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The food will NOT run out, not for God's people anyway. This is a predominantly Christian nation. God fed the Israelites in the desert with manna and He promises that the righteous will NEVER go hungry.

The LORD does not let the righteous go hungry,
but he thwarts the craving of the wicked.
(Proverbs 10:3 ESV)

Furthermore, IF the food ran out, I guess there'd be no reason to fight over something that doesn't exist.

End of story!
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You say us?

Perhaps someone should play this for the government.

They're the paranoid ones who started stripping us of our rights because they freaked out when 9/11 happened.

Now, they're freaking out because 1 out of 3.5 million people used a firearm to kill 20+ people.

The people opposing it are the ones trying to instill a sense of sanity into the whole mess.

Talk about right being wrong, black being white!!

The government is far more of a problem than the people on this forum!!
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omg.

NO ONE understands this thread.
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As we have previously highlighted, Feinstein’s bill would not only ban a plethora of different firearms, it would also require all gun owners to register the serial numbers of all their guns with the federal government as well as their fingerprints, treating anyone who owns a firearm as akin to a sex offender.
Read more at [link to marketdailynews.com]
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As we have previously highlighted, Feinstein’s bill would ...
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PROPOSED legislation.

You are all hysterical over PERCEIVED actions.
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As we have previously highlighted, Feinstein’s bill would ...
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PROPOSED legislation.

You are all hysterical over PERCEIVED actions.
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Negative. Yes, it is proposed. And yes it doesn't mean it will pass.

The problem with people like you is that you have not a glimmering of why we don't like this.

It tells us what exactly their intentions are.

They intend to disarm us. Completely. And once they do that the rest of their agenda follows.
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As we have previously highlighted, Feinstein’s bill would ...
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PROPOSED legislation.

You are all hysterical over PERCEIVED actions.
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Like the so-called "health care" bill?

So you're telling us watching a TV show will give us further enlightenment into the minds of those who created it to "guide" is in our thinking?
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As we have previously highlighted, Feinstein’s bill would ...
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PROPOSED legislation.

You are all hysterical over PERCEIVED actions.
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Like the so-called "health care" bill?

So you're telling us watching a TV show will give us further enlightenment into the minds of those who created it to "guide" is in our thinking?
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precisely. If it wasn't so twisted and sad it would be humorous.
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Re: Gun fanatics: Rod Serling and the people on Maple Street have a message for you . . .
You know what usa was respected for in post soviet union countries?
For great constitution....that more or less was mentioning the freedoms of common man.
Ever wondered why second amendment placed after 1st in usa constitution........because it is ages old wisdom........the destiny of free man is always placed in free man's ''arms''.
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You know what usa was respected for in post soviet union countries?
For great constitution....that more or less was mentioning the freedoms of common man.
Ever wondered why second amendment placed after 1st in usa constitution........because it is ages old wisdom........the destiny of free man is always placed in free man's ''arms''.
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clappa
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Re: Gun fanatics: Rod Serling and the people on Maple Street have a message for you . . .
Hey, an enlightened one.

Hello fellow, I'm here too.

They will tell you they will take your guns.

Every man, woman and child will be dually armed.

Then the food will "run out".

Don't worry. They have bomb proof bunkers and thousands of truck loads of fuel, medicine and food.

Wake up.

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rofl This is a funny post. Just where do you think all those truck loads of fuel,medicine and food came from?

Do you think gubmint grows,manufactures and refines? rofl

Gubmint creates and produces nothing except the bad things when they are out of control. Like it is now.

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This is why TV is called programming. So much psychological warfare in that one episode it's sickening. Just one quick example, the intolerant beer swilling jock, aka how Liberals see anyone that is not an effeminate pussy, like the "tolerant" one. That dude is so tolerant in fact, the black guy wearing glasses is probably fucking his wife, or at least the camera angles always showing both in one frame would suggest as much.

That aside, if we are going to use The Twilight Zone to draw parallels to society, my take is a bit different than OP's. The poor unarmed people in the house are just like current gun owners. Perceived by the masses of jackasses as terrorists. They, like modern liberal puppets, are ready to burn out the gun owners, lynch them or drag them behind pick-up trucks (and that beer swilling redneck is the intolerant one). Just check out twitter, or most commy rags that pass as newspapers.

To bad the 3rd shift electronics working stiff didn't have an AR-15 to equalize the odds and keep his family from being incinerated by the multicultural mob.


Besides, the original Thing did the paranoia bit 5,000x's better.
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As we have previously highlighted, Feinstein’s bill would ...
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PROPOSED legislation.

You are all hysterical over PERCEIVED actions.
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Like the so-called "health care" bill?

So you're telling us watching a TV show will give us further enlightenment into the minds of those who created it to "guide" is in our thinking?
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People are not running hysterically around, freaking out over the health bill. They ARE over what they PERCEIVE will be total disarmament in America, which will not happen at any time in the near future.

If you are not a responsible or concerned enough citizen to spend 25 minutes watching the episode and TRY to understand it, that's your choice, your problem.
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Hey, an enlightened one.

Hello fellow, I'm here too.

They will tell you they will take your guns.

Every man, woman and child will be dually armed.

Then the food will "run out".

Don't worry. They have bomb proof bunkers and thousands of truck loads of fuel, medicine and food.

Wake up.

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rofl This is a funny post. Just where do you think all those truck loads of fuel,medicine and food came from?

Do you think gubmint grows,manufactures and refines? rofl

Gubmint creates and produces nothing except the bad things when they are out of control. Like it is now.
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You need to take a break . . . you're so far off-track, you can't possibly keep up with this discussion.
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Re: Gun fanatics: Rod Serling and the people on Maple Street have a message for you . . .
This is why TV is called programming. So much psychological warfare in that one episode it's sickening. Just one quick example, the intolerant beer swilling jock, aka how Liberals see anyone that is not an effeminate pussy, like the "tolerant" one. That dude is so tolerant in fact, the black guy wearing glasses is probably fucking his wife, or at least the camera angles always showing both in one frame would suggest as much.

That aside, if we are going to use The Twilight Zone to draw parallels to society, my take is a bit different than OP's. The poor unarmed people in the house are just like current gun owners. Perceived by the masses of jackasses as terrorists. They, like modern liberal puppets, are ready to burn out the gun owners, lynch them or drag them behind pick-up trucks (and that beer swilling redneck is the intolerant one). Just check out twitter, or most commy rags that pass as newspapers.

To bad the 3rd shift electronics working stiff didn't have an AR-15 to equalize the odds and keep his family from being incinerated by the multicultural mob.


Besides, the original Thing did the paranoia bit 5,000x's better.
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I am the OP and I did not watch the remake - all I know is that the gov was gauging, rather than aliens.

Watch the original because it says all that needs to be said about what's going on.

It appears that thus far, no one on this thread has been able to fully understand the parallels to which I have referred.

The Thing has nothing to do with this, the correlations are not the same.
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Re: Gun fanatics: Rod Serling and the people on Maple Street have a message for you . . .
In any other thread all of you would be saying,

"Nah... not me, I threw my TV out years ago."

or

"TV is mind control"

Hilarious..
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Re: Gun fanatics: Rod Serling and the people on Maple Street have a message for you . . .
Hey, an enlightened one.

Hello fellow, I'm here too.

They will tell you they will take your guns.

Every man, woman and child will be dually armed.

Then the food will "run out".

Don't worry. They have bomb proof bunkers and thousands of truck loads of fuel, medicine and food.

Wake up.

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rofl This is a funny post. Just where do you think all those truck loads of fuel,medicine and food came from?

Do you think gubmint grows,manufactures and refines? rofl

Gubmint creates and produces nothing except the bad things when they are out of control. Like it is now.
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You need to take a break . . . you're so far off-track, you can't possibly keep up with this discussion.
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Your point is simple. Government,you claim is gauging reaction,so what?

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Re: Gun fanatics: Rod Serling and the people on Maple Street have a message for you . . .
Why are you people are unwilling to admit you are wrong?

Why can't you recognize and acknowledge that TPTB are playing you - JUST LIKE THE ALIENS did in the original TZ episode and JUST LIKE THE GOV did in the remake?

Are you all WANTING a civil war?

Are you all just WANTING an "excuse" to pull the trigger?

Do you enjoy the hysteria YOU are creating?

TPTB are sitting back, monitoring your reactions, documenting the hate, violent mindsets, those who are openly proclaiming that they will violate the law.

You are playing into their hands.

Are you happy?
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Diane Feinstein, ladies and gentlemen. Diane Feinstein...

thank you for gracing us with your presence, senator.
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OBTUSE.
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aw shucks, I must be.

why won't you address the stolen weapon issue I raised.

Don runs up, shotgun in hand. Steve yanks it from Don's hands, then, later on, Charlie steals it from Steve before shooting Pete.

if Don had maintained control of his weapon, and not allowed it to be taken from him by Steve, the shooting may not have happened at all.

the message? don't allow anyone, including self-proclaimed authority figures, to take your weapon or it may fall into the wrong hands and be used for nefarious purposes.
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clappaohyeahapplause2dasbier


Me thinks you nailed it and now someone's not going to be happy. oops2
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Re: Gun fanatics: Rod Serling and the people on Maple Street have a message for you . . .
Rod was a left wing tribesman.
He was in WWII but was a poor soldier.
As could be expected he became an anti-war activist,
and several TZ episodes reflect that.

Consider all the facts before you kneel down
at the altar of stupidity.
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No OP, your backwards if you want to blame gun owners for this hysteria. This Hysteria was first created by media and the anti-gun groups because ONE criminal out of 310 million people killed 26 people. Now millions of law abiding citizens are being publicly and privately ridiculed for supporting the second amendment- do you realize how screwed up and backwards that is? And now you are one of them, are you that dense??

Why do we enforce naked-body-scanners on millions of people because of ONE underwear bomber? We punish EVERYONE because of ONE person... question THAT.

Gun control of the law abiding citizens when criminals are the problem is not really about "safety", it is about POWER and who has it.


QUESTION AUTHORITY


"However, this newly expanded sense of awareness throughout humanity is leading to the realization that authority
in the form of government agencies, and throughout educational, health-care, political, social, and religious
organizations is a means to control and suppress individuals and deprive them of their human rights. The reasoning constantly offered to justify these authoritarian measures is that they are essential for the safety and security of the majority, when in fact the true agenda is purely to preserve the power and authority of those at the summit of those organizations who believe that they have an inalienable right to that power and control. And it is a right that they had no intention of relinquishing." -John Smallman



"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and
keystone under independence
… from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies
prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere
of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
-George Washington
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Re: Gun fanatics: Rod Serling and the people on Maple Street have a message for you . . .
No OP, your backwards if you want to blame gun owners for this hysteria. This Hysteria was first created by media and the anti-gun groups because ONE criminal out of 310 million people killed 26 people. Now millions of law abiding citizens are being publicly and privately ridiculed for supporting the second amendment- do you realize how screwed up and backwards that is? And now you are one of them, are you that dense??

Why do we enforce naked-body-scanners on millions of people because of ONE underwear bomber? We punish EVERYONE because of ONE person... question THAT.

Gun control of the law abiding citizens when criminals are the problem is not really about "safety", it is about POWER and who has it.


QUESTION AUTHORITY


"However, this newly expanded sense of awareness throughout humanity is leading to the realization that authority
in the form of government agencies, and throughout educational, health-care, political, social, and religious
organizations is a means to control and suppress individuals and deprive them of their human rights. The reasoning constantly offered to justify these authoritarian measures is that they are essential for the safety and security of the majority, when in fact the true agenda is purely to preserve the power and authority of those at the summit of those organizations who believe that they have an inalienable right to that power and control. And it is a right that they had no intention of relinquishing." -John Smallman



"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and
keystone under independence
… from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies
prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere
of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
-George Washington
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That is the real issue, power and who has it.
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This is where the sounds came from.

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Found the script.... the words in it are powerful


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**The first step to salvation is to realize that we are all sinners:
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
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Found the script.... the words in it are powerful


[link to www-pbm.stjohns.k12.fl.us]
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That's interesting that you found that . . . I'm going to read it and will get back to this thread.

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