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So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands

 
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well.. until then lets cool down a bit


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well.. until then lets cool down a bit


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We are always cool.
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1.the turks cant go to war.. their army has no command at the moment. the muslim bortherhood govermant arrested all the millitary commanders and an army without a good command cant win wars.
2.if the turks go to war with greece then israel and cyprus will most likely be involved since the turks keep threatning those countries to.
3.the turks are slowing losing more and more freedoms so the govermant is trying to divert attention to security,thats why all those threats toward syria/israel/greece/cyprus are coming but the wont act on them. just look at 2010 their pm said if israel stops the marmara he will send the turkish fleet to liberate gaza and 2013 nothing happened and when israel started drilling for gas he said again he will send the fleet to take our gas deposits and again nothing happened... just a sheep in lions clothing.
just saw a ridicules new law that was just signed that basicly says that anyone who posts negative information about the economy will be send to 5years in jail i mean turks cant even anything bad about their economy what kind of democracy is that.
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same thing happens in Greece... it s a distraction tactic... ther fucks who rule would risk a war between nations only to cover their own, criminal asses... they WILL get what is coming to them...
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We are always cool.
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I know, and mysteriously we are more cool in times of danger.. it is in our genes!

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We are always cool.
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I know, and mysteriously we are more cool in times of danger.. it is in our genes!

hf
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I just want to point out for us all to realize how important it is for turkish economy to get access to the aegean oil fields.It is 100% economic growth for the next 50 years.Energy efficiency is number 1 sector.Energy gives you everything,even food.
That was the main reason Germany lost WWII.They had by far the best army and technology but their lack of energy made them weak.The armoured vehicles in Russia were driven by fully synthetic fuel which at that time german scientists manage to create, but it froze at very low temperatures.
Unless humanity goes to the free energy era,energy fields will determine peace and war.Even hydrogen which is planned and studied as the next possible fuel needs huge amounts of energy to be produced.
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Remember they Received that shipment of 400 Abram's

and Greece is E.U

Plus being Full of a Load of pissed Of people at the moment

seems like every one everywhere has a claim To a Island this is getting Crazy now

Argies want Falklands Most of the far east want the same pieces of Rock/s India Pakistan Fighting over the peoples heads and border something gonna go Boom soon
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Hey, Anderson hope all is well. cheers

We didn't get the Abrams, at least yet, EU didn't agree with the delivery, but we don't need them either tbh, we have so many tanks as UK, France and Germany combined already, we won't fight such a war again where tanks will be needed.

I agree that is starting to get crazy everywhere but this is nothing new with the Aegean, happens every other time or so, things are always a bit tense, there won't be war, a crisis maybe but that's about it imo.

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Its not only about energy, petroleum and natural gas,its also about products.40% of our household items are made out of petroleum.Plastic is made out of petroleum.Plastic means cheap products available to everyone.Glass,wood,metal means expensive products.
Turkey is an industrialized country now,like it or not.
They need bad all the energy and natural resources they can get.It is crucial for them.
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same thing happens in Greece... it s a distraction tactic... ther fucks who rule would risk a war between nations only to cover their own, criminal asses... they WILL get what is coming to them...
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I agree that this is a distraction tactic for the masses here too, but the concerning part for me is that creditors and bansksters are pushing this, no chance that Greek govt would take this decision by themselves. Lots of rumors that US is pissed with the govt here because it's too German friendly, Germany has all the politicians by the balls with the scandals and all.
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Remember they Received that shipment of 400 Abram's

and Greece is E.U

Plus being Full of a Load of pissed Of people at the moment

seems like every one everywhere has a claim To a Island this is getting Crazy now

Argies want Falklands Most of the far east want the same pieces of Rock/s India Pakistan Fighting over the peoples heads and border something gonna go Boom soon
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Hey, Anderson hope all is well. cheers

We didn't get the Abrams, at least yet, EU didn't agree with the delivery, but we don't need them either tbh, we have so many tanks as UK, France and Germany combined already, we won't fight such a war again where tanks will be needed.

I agree that is starting to get crazy everywhere but this is nothing new with the Aegean, happens every other time or so, things are always a bit tense, there won't be war, a crisis maybe but that's about it imo.
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If we let them take share there will be no war.
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I just want to point out for us all to realize how important it is for turkish economy to get access to the aegean oil fields.It is 100% economic growth for the next 50 years.Energy efficiency is number 1 sector.Energy gives you everything,even food.
That was the main reason Germany lost WWII.They had by far the best army and technology but their lack of energy made them weak.The armoured vehicles in Russia were driven by fully synthetic fuel which at that time german scientists manage to create, but it froze at very low temperatures.
Unless humanity goes to the free energy era,energy fields will determine peace and war.Even hydrogen which is planned and studied as the next possible fuel needs huge amounts of energy to be produced.
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True, they need energy resources badly, same in Syria btw, lots of natgas discovered offshore.
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If we let them take share there will be no war.
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Yep, pretty much. Oil companies will decide for this too though, less earnings for them if 2 countries have to share.
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If we let them take share there will be no war.
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Yep, pretty much. Oil companies will decide for this too though, less earnings for them if 2 countries have to share.
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If our politicians and leaders listen to oil companies,then oil companies decide.
If they dont,then through democracy,theoretically it is the people who decide.

To my opinion the best thing is to give Turkey like 30-40% of the fields and to assure that they will have no territorial claims.So things calm down,both countries are friends,help each over and progress etc.Turkey can be a big market for Greece and versus.
But if some people want war...then war it will be.

Lets see what happens.
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If we let them take share there will be no war.
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Yep, pretty much. Oil companies will decide for this too though, less earnings for them if 2 countries have to share.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


If our politicians and leaders listen to oil companies,then oil companies decide.
If they dont,then through democracy,theoretically it is the people who decide.

To my opinion the best thing is to give Turkey like 30-40% of the fields and to assure that they will have no territorial claims.So things calm down,both countries are friends,help each over and progress etc.Turkey can be a big market for Greece and versus.
But if some people want war...then war it will be.

Lets see what happens.
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But that's the problem here, they don't want only deposits in SE Med, they want in N.Aegean too, Ionian under the Albanian proxy, Cyprus, 2 islands under Crete ffs, they also want supervision of half the Aegean, Thrace and the demands go on from there, as i said i wouldn't give shit to the current regime in Turkey. Peace/friendship is a 2-way street imo, i despise terrorist demands and threats but we certainly lack the leaders in our govt to go all the way through this now.

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Maybe this is a better way to cool down hf(although it seems the haters hijacked this thread as usual)


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If we let them take share there will be no war.
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Yep, pretty much. Oil companies will decide for this too though, less earnings for them if 2 countries have to share.
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If our politicians and leaders listen to oil companies,then oil companies decide.
If they dont,then through democracy,theoretically it is the people who decide.

To my opinion the best thing is to give Turkey like 30-40% of the fields and to assure that they will have no territorial claims.So things calm down,both countries are friends,help each over and progress etc.Turkey can be a big market for Greece and versus.
But if some people want war...then war it will be.

Lets see what happens.
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finally a greek with reason... wraios megale... co-operation instead of competition....
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Maybe this is a better way to cool down hf(although it seems the haters hijacked this thread as usual)

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
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We're cool imo, this is glp ya know. hf
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also Greece and Turkey should join together in renewable energy projects and REALLY turn things around in the Balkan and mediterranean... sun, wind, tides... we could be the Powerhouse of Southeastern Europe and the middle east... and shift paraDIGMS... but greed has to be excorcised first
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finally a greek with reason... wraios megale... co-operation instead of competition....
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I'm all for peace or cooperation too, but where do the demands stop? There's no logical person in Greece or the Greek govt that wants war, peace/friendship would be great, but honestly where the demands for islands and other BS stop?
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finally a greek with reason... wraios megale... co-operation instead of competition....
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I'm all for peace or cooperation too, but where do the demands stop? There's no logical person in Greece or the Greek govt that wants war, peace/friendship would be great, but honestly where the demands for islands and other BS stop?
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the demands are not real... i think a turk in anatolia couldn t care less about some spot in the mediterranean... Turk politics are puppets too, so their demands are those of their masters, to maintain the divide/conquers status quo...
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If we let them take share there will be no war.
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Yep, pretty much. Oil companies will decide for this too though, less earnings for them if 2 countries have to share.
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There are rumors, conspiracy theories we've been hearing for 20-30 years that there's lots of oil in the south east region of Turkey. Well there are already some oil wells and a little oil production there but i mean much much more than that. Which makes sense considering Iraq in the south, Iran in the south east, and abruptly on this side of the border oil disappears, really ? I don't buy it. It's said that whenever those companies find a productive oil field, they mark it 'unproductive' and close the well. I don't know if this is certainly true but it makes sense to me. There were also some witnesses (some petroleum engineers etc. worked in that area) claiming the same, but as usual they were discredited as conspiracy whackos.
My point is they will never allow you or me to get that oil entirely, until this status quo changes.
I also believe that Black Sea is very rich in oil, but the same story apply there too.
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the demands are not real... i think a turk in anatolia couldn t care less about some spot in the mediterranean... Turk politics are puppets too, so their demands are those of their masters, to maintain the divide/conquers status quo...
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Off course a Turk in Anatolia couldn't care less, we've already said that this has nothing to do with the average citizens, and i do agree that this is the perfect divide and conquer strategy with puppets installed in both countries, but i think you're oversimplifying things here, demands of Turkish govt are pretty real.
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If we let them take share there will be no war.
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Yep, pretty much. Oil companies will decide for this too though, less earnings for them if 2 countries have to share.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


There are rumors, conspiracy theories we've been hearing for 20-30 years that there's lots of oil in the south east region of Turkey. Well there are already some oil wells and a little oil production there but i mean much much more than that. Which makes sense considering Iraq in the south, Iran in the south east, and abruptly on this side of the border oil disappears, really ? I don't buy it. It's said that whenever those companies find a productive oil field, they mark it 'unproductive' and close the well. I don't know if this is certainly true but it makes sense to me. There were also some witnesses (some petroleum engineers etc. worked in that area) claiming the same, but as usual they were discredited as conspiracy whackos.
My point is they will never allow you or me to get that oil entirely, until this status quo changes.
I also believe that Black Sea is very rich in oil, but the same story apply there too.
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Yeah, heard this about SE too. Big game played out these months with N.Iraq/Kurdistan oil, seems there is some kind of alliance between Turkey and the Kurds going on there, Iraq govt doesn't like it. Black Sea exploration starts soon with Shell from what i've heard. Lots of people have been discredited as conspiracytards here too regarding these kind of things too, haha, just 2 years ex-pm Papandreou went on camera and said that there's no oil anywhere in Greece.
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Maybe this is a better way to cool down hf(although it seems the haters hijacked this thread as usual)

[youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]
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We're cool imo, this is glp ya know. hf
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Nope, this is the world we live in. Imagine how an average and less than average person buys this shit (that everybody hates you/us/they etc.) and always have a defensive nationalist paranoia against others and how then he becomes vulnerable to propagandas from the puppets and their masters. IMO, we don't need corrupt politicians, TPTB sickos, sinister third parties like CIA etc. when we have pathological minds among us. And this will not change until we expose them and stop them instead of thinking this as an ordinary behaviour.

Last Edited by Gregor Samsa on 01/14/2013 09:28 AM
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If we let them take share there will be no war.
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Yep, pretty much. Oil companies will decide for this too though, less earnings for them if 2 countries have to share.
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If our politicians and leaders listen to oil companies,then oil companies decide.
If they dont,then through democracy,theoretically it is the people who decide.

To my opinion the best thing is to give Turkey like 30-40% of the fields and to assure that they will have no territorial claims.So things calm down,both countries are friends,help each over and progress etc.Turkey can be a big market for Greece and versus.
But if some people want war...then war it will be.

Lets see what happens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32170605


But that's the problem here, they don't want only deposits in SE Med, they want in N.Aegean too, Ionian under the Albanian proxy, Cyprus, 2 islands under Crete ffs, they also want supervision of half the Aegean, Thrace and the demands go on from there, as i said i wouldn't give shit to the current regime in Turkey. Peace/friendship is a 2-way street imo, i despise terrorist demands and threats but we certainly lack the leaders in our govt to go all the way through this now.
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I know Turks demand much...thats why i said 30-40% of the aegean fields and no territorial claims.
They are against international law everywhere,in Thrace,Cuprus,Aegean.They also support the albanians to cause trouble in the ionian.
The problem is also with the leadership of Turkey.Hypothetically if a super greek leader appears and proposes cooperation...turkish leadership highly possible will ask for 80% of the fields!

Its a hard case.Such cases are solved only by war.
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If we let them take share there will be no war.
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Yep, pretty much. Oil companies will decide for this too though, less earnings for them if 2 countries have to share.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


There are rumors, conspiracy theories we've been hearing for 20-30 years that there's lots of oil in the south east region of Turkey. Well there are already some oil wells and a little oil production there but i mean much much more than that. Which makes sense considering Iraq in the south, Iran in the south east, and abruptly on this side of the border oil disappears, really ? I don't buy it. It's said that whenever those companies find a productive oil field, they mark it 'unproductive' and close the well. I don't know if this is certainly true but it makes sense to me. There were also some witnesses (some petroleum engineers etc. worked in that area) claiming the same, but as usual they were discredited as conspiracy whackos.
My point is they will never allow you or me to get that oil entirely, until this status quo changes.
I also believe that Black Sea is very rich in oil, but the same story apply there too.
 Quoting: Gregor Samsa


The oil companies have their own agenda when to take advantange of the oil fields.They know exactly every resource in the planet.Satelites give the intelligence needed.
They have a policy...first we take oil from the middle east,then from meditteranenan,then from the poles,then from everywhere possible...and when oil finishes we will switch to hydrogen.The same companies that trade oil will produce and trade hydrogen in 30 years.Hydrogen will be even more expensive.
They go first for the easier to get resources.Middle east or texas was easy.Oil,natgas and other resources in the aegean are deep.In the poles they are even deeper.Nazis had maps with the aegean and meditteranenan resources.The greek military regime had maps.They are the same fields that are explored nowdays.But at that time the technology was not so advanced and it was hard to get.
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I know Turks demand much...thats why i said 30-40% of the aegean fields and no territorial claims.
They are against international law everywhere,in Thrace,Cuprus,Aegean.They also support the albanians to cause trouble in the ionian.
The problem is also with the leadership of Turkey.Hypothetically if a super greek leader appears and proposes cooperation...turkish leadership highly possible will ask for 80% of the fields!

Its a hard case.Such cases are solved only by war.
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Hard case indeed, and that's the reason i don't believe we can be friends with their current govt, i actually admire their diplomatic balls but they're ruthless and greedy, just 2 years ago they were the bestest friends ever with Gaddafi and Assad and we all saw how this panned out in the end, add Iraq to that list, they can't be trusted imo, they always ask for more, it's very romantic to talk about friendships now, friendship between the 2 countries will only come when the thieves that are governing Greece will go away with the financial crash we're expecting here and i'm dead sure that Turkey will be involved in a big war in one of the many fronts she has open already in the ME and then people will overthrow the current regime. Probably only then, can't see it as things stand now.
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Nope, this is the world we live in. Imagine how an average and less than average person buys this shit (that everybody hates you/us/they etc.) and always have a defensive nationalist paranoia against others and how then he becomes vulnerable to propagandas from the puppets and their masters. IMO, we don't need corrupt politicians, TPTB sickos, sinister third parties like CIA etc. when we have pathological minds among us. And this will not change until we expose them and stop them instead of thinking this as an ordinary behaviour.
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True, good post GS.
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I know Turks demand much...thats why i said 30-40% of the aegean fields and no territorial claims.
They are against international law everywhere,in Thrace,Cuprus,Aegean.They also support the albanians to cause trouble in the ionian.
The problem is also with the leadership of Turkey.Hypothetically if a super greek leader appears and proposes cooperation...turkish leadership highly possible will ask for 80% of the fields!

Its a hard case.Such cases are solved only by war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32170605


Hard case indeed, and that's the reason i don't believe we can be friends with their current govt, i actually admire their diplomatic balls but they're ruthless and greedy, just 2 years ago they were the bestest friends ever with Gaddafi and Assad and we all saw how this panned out in the end, add Iraq to that list, they can't be trusted imo, they always ask for more, it's very romantic to talk about friendships now, friendship between the 2 countries will only come when the thieves that are governing Greece will go away with the financial crash we're expecting here and i'm dead sure that Turkey will be involved in a big war in one of the many fronts she has open already in the ME and then people will overthrow the current regime. Probably only then, can't see it as things stand now.
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Lets hope this war will not be against Greece.

I m not talking about a 3 day conflict with dogfights and some bombs around and some hits at military installations but about a full scale war.
Everybody knows what will happen in a full scale war.Greece looses some aegean islands and Turkey looses Eastern Thrace and has to defend Istannbul with great casualties.Both economies are ruined.Countries go back 50 years.

The only ones that will benefit from a full scale greek-turkish war will be the oilcompanies,the banksters,construction companies etc.
Lets hope we will be not that stupid!Greeks and Turks!
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Remember they Received that shipment of 400 Abram's

and Greece is E.U

Plus being Full of a Load of pissed Of people at the moment

seems like every one everywhere has a claim To a Island this is getting Crazy now

Argies want Falklands Most of the far east want the same pieces of Rock/s India Pakistan Fighting over the peoples heads and border something gonna go Boom soon
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Hey, Anderson hope all is well. cheers

We didn't get the Abrams, at least yet, EU didn't agree with the delivery, but we don't need them either tbh, we have so many tanks as UK, France and Germany combined already, we won't fight such a war again where tanks will be needed.

I agree that is starting to get crazy everywhere but this is nothing new with the Aegean, happens every other time or so, things are always a bit tense, there won't be war, a crisis maybe but that's about it imo.
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Ah I wondered about those tanks, and out of curiosity why wouldn't the tanks be much use ?

I can't see war developing maybe a skirmish here and there Like Pak/India mainly posturing in my opinion.

I know Turkey has a year lease to use force on Syria if needed without going to Parliament, Do you know if that is constitutional to to any Country or is it just Syria
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Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
Lets hope this war will not be against Greece.

I m not talking about a 3 day conflict with dogfights and some bombs around and some hits at military installations but about a full scale war.
Everybody knows what will happen in a full scale war.Greece looses some aegean islands and Turkey looses Eastern Thrace and has to defend Istannbul with great casualties.Both economies are ruined.Countries go back 50 years.

The only ones that will benefit from a full scale greek-turkish war will be the oilcompanies,the banksters,construction companies etc.
Lets hope we will be not that stupid!Greeks and Turks!
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I'm sure it won't go full scale war, can't happen imo, both NATO and we're in EU too, this is EU soil we're talking about here, not that there isn't a chance NATO or EU won't do shit but it'll certainly won't go to a full scale war, not likely at all, this would probably go the usual way if something happens in the first place. Turkey will go full scale in Syria or somewhere else though, they arming themselves like there's no tomorrow.





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