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So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands

 
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Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31508826

I wouldn't say so,if Greece will be attacked by the turks all neighbouring countries including here :Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania or Russia will go helping the greeks will all means.
 Quoting: Seelenheilkunde


hahahh you guys speaking nonsense..

IGNORANT NONSENSE .. not exucses..


TURKEY + USA = LOVE

AND USA + EU = ? no love ?

So .. logic ? or no logic ?

What attacks, what wars are you speaking about...

total ignorance..

peace yooo
 Quoting: ExTraDimensionaL777


we only have an interest in turkey as long as they are a muslim democracy that supports our wars and ambitions. there is no love. are you new to politics? all turkey needs is to elect a shia radical and they become part of the axis of evil, but as long as they have contracts with the pentagon and they pay their bill on time, we will allow them to exist.
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1.the turks cant go to war.. their army has no command at the moment. the muslim bortherhood govermant arrested all the millitary commanders and an army without a good command cant win wars.
2.if the turks go to war with greece then israel and cyprus will most likely be involved since the turks keep threatning those countries to.
3.the turks are slowing losing more and more freedoms so the govermant is trying to divert attention to security,thats why all those threats toward syria/israel/greece/cyprus are coming but the wont act on them. just look at 2010 their pm said if israel stops the marmara he will send the turkish fleet to liberate gaza and 2013 nothing happened and when israel started drilling for gas he said again he will send the fleet to take our gas deposits and again nothing happened... just a sheep in lions clothing.
just saw a ridicules new law that was just signed that basicly says that anyone who posts negative information about the economy will be send to 5years in jail i mean turks cant even anything bad about their economy what kind of democracy is that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31629472


The Turkish govt is going really out of hand regarding liberties and freedoms lately, but after jailing the "deep state" officials Erdogan has no opponent anymore, he can do whatever he wants without asking no one. All these things are happening to provoke Turks in to a conflict so TPTB can dismember Turkey into pieces, it's an obvious trap and at some point i do think that they will react against either Syria, Cyprus, Greece, etc, they practically have bad relations with all of their neighboring countries despite the Davutoglu BS "zero-problems" failed policy, even Turks have criticized his policy a lot lately. Add the Kurds into the equation, peace/ceasefire negotiations with Ocalan the last month which seem to be going well according to the press.
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and he will. het wil get back the disputd 12 islands plus the sum greeks still have to pay for the damage they caused in turkey in the aftermath of the WW I.

do the math 12.000.000 $ of thatt time. How much is it now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 648659


Hello Mr Turkish Muzzie in Netherlands. I hope the kebab sales were great today. I don't think that anyone would take EU land without getting some payback. The "disputed" islands are actually what the Turks would want in order to "lock" probable oil resources, but unfortunately, these islands are well documented as Greek in the different treaties (including the one with Italy). By the way, why don't you start by paying for the snatching of Greek, Armenian, Assyrian and Kurdish historical lands and for the genocides against Armenians, Pontic Greeks and Assyrians? I think that your internal problems cannot be redirected by creating tensions with your neighbors and by oppressing the native inhabitants (Kurdish, Armenians, Rum - aka Greeks, Alevites,Assyrians and other 70+ nationalities are not Turks)
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Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31508826

I wouldn't say so,if Greece will be attacked by the turks all neighbouring countries including here :Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania or Russia will go helping the greeks will all means.
 Quoting: Seelenheilkunde


hahahh you guys speaking nonsense..

IGNORANT NONSENSE .. not exucses..


TURKEY + USA = LOVE

AND USA + EU = ? no love ?

So .. logic ? or no logic ?

What attacks, what wars are you speaking about...

total ignorance..

peace yooo
 Quoting: ExTraDimensionaL777


IF Turkey starts a war with Greece (I doubt that)...

Romania at start will try to defuse the situation (will ask Turkey to stop), but if it is forced to take a side, it will side with Greece, no questions ask.

And I am sure that Bulgaria and Serbia will do the same.

A muslim country ( doesn't matter WHO it is) will start a war with an orthodox country and expect other orthodox countries to just SIT and do nothing?

Not to mention the HUNDREDS of years that Bulgaria, Romania and Serbia had been under Ottomans.

As for the U.S....you guys just canceled a carrier trip to Guld because of MONEY.You will NOT intervene in this, because you guys will colide with Russia.

Romania fought the independence war of 1877-1878 against Turks.We kicked their sorry as, in the proces making them retreat from Bulgaria.Guess who helped us? That is right, the russians, with logistics and attacking Turkey on another front.

Also, if anyone think that Israel will be neutral...check your head.

They will side with Greece.


U.S. AT BEST, will have to choose bewtween Tutkey on one side and Greece, Romania, Bulgaria and Israel, first 3 being NATO members, on the other side.

Guess what will U.S. do lol.

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Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31508826

I wouldn't say so,if Greece will be attacked by the turks all neighbouring countries including here :Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania or Russia will go helping the greeks will all means.
 Quoting: Seelenheilkunde


hahahh you guys speaking nonsense..

IGNORANT NONSENSE .. not exucses..


TURKEY + USA = LOVE

AND USA + EU = ? no love ?

So .. logic ? or no logic ?

What attacks, what wars are you speaking about...

total ignorance..

peace yooo
 Quoting: ExTraDimensionaL777


we only have an interest in turkey as long as they are a muslim democracy that supports our wars and ambitions. there is no love. are you new to politics? all turkey needs is to elect a shia radical and they become part of the axis of evil, but as long as they have contracts with the pentagon and they pay their bill on time, we will allow them to exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899606


EU + USA will become a single free economy within the next years. I think Obama has announced that already. That's a step before further (aka political) unification. Turkey never wanted to be in the EU in the first place (unless we all turned to muzzies and made them the leading state which was of course a non-realizable dream) and it cannot be under a fake - military controlled - democracy, nor with the extreme muzzie government that it has now. They have just been a tool since they had got help more than 7 times from the IMF, so no cooperation, no money.
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Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31508826

I wouldn't say so,if Greece will be attacked by the turks all neighbouring countries including here :Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania or Russia will go helping the greeks will all means.
 Quoting: Seelenheilkunde


hahahh you guys speaking nonsense..

IGNORANT NONSENSE .. not exucses..


TURKEY + USA = LOVE

AND USA + EU = ? no love ?

So .. logic ? or no logic ?

What attacks, what wars are you speaking about...

total ignorance..

peace yooo
 Quoting: ExTraDimensionaL777


we only have an interest in turkey as long as they are a muslim democracy that supports our wars and ambitions. there is no love. are you new to politics? all turkey needs is to elect a shia radical and they become part of the axis of evil, but as long as they have contracts with the pentagon and they pay their bill on time, we will allow them to exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899606


How is turkey going to elect a shia if 80% or more of the population is sunni?

total ignorance...

It seems you are the one who is new to politics..
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1.the turks cant go to war.. their army has no command at the moment. the muslim bortherhood govermant arrested all the millitary commanders and an army without a good command cant win wars.
2.if the turks go to war with greece then israel and cyprus will most likely be involved since the turks keep threatning those countries to.
3.the turks are slowing losing more and more freedoms so the govermant is trying to divert attention to security,thats why all those threats toward syria/israel/greece/cyprus are coming but the wont act on them. just look at 2010 their pm said if israel stops the marmara he will send the turkish fleet to liberate gaza and 2013 nothing happened and when israel started drilling for gas he said again he will send the fleet to take our gas deposits and again nothing happened... just a sheep in lions clothing.
just saw a ridicules new law that was just signed that basicly says that anyone who posts negative information about the economy will be send to 5years in jail i mean turks cant even anything bad about their economy what kind of democracy is that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31629472


The Turkish govt is going really out of hand regarding liberties and freedoms lately, but after jailing the "deep state" officials Erdogan has no opponent anymore, he can do whatever he wants without asking no one. All these things are happening to provoke Turks in to a conflict so TPTB can dismember Turkey into pieces, it's an obvious trap and at some point i do think that they will react against either Syria, Cyprus, Greece, etc, they practically have bad relations with all of their neighboring countries despite the Davutoglu BS "zero-problems" failed policy, even Turks have criticized his policy a lot lately. Add the Kurds into the equation, peace/ceasefire negotiations with Ocalan the last month which seem to be going well according to the press.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


and he will. het wil get back the disputd 12 islands plus the sum greeks still have to pay for the damage they caused in turkey in the aftermath of the WW I.

do the math 12.000.000 $ of thatt time. How much is it now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 648659


Hello Mr Turkish Muzzie in Netherlands. I hope the kebab sales were great today. I don't think that anyone would take EU land without getting some payback. The "disputed" islands are actually what the Turks would want in order to "lock" probable oil resources, but unfortunately, these islands are well documented as Greek in the different treaties (including the one with Italy). By the way, why don't you start by paying for the snatching of Greek, Armenian, Assyrian and Kurdish historical lands and for the genocides against Armenians, Pontic Greeks and Assyrians? I think that your internal problems cannot be redirected by creating tensions with your neighbors and by oppressing the native inhabitants (Kurdish, Armenians, Rum - aka Greeks, Alevites,Assyrians and other 70+ nationalities are not Turks)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34404947


wait and see.. and mark my words. Turke will legally take back the 12 islands ), if you know what i mean. I am not talking about those 16 but about the 12.. Greece has no means against Turkey. That´s a fact. But you may dream on buddy..
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I wouldn't say so,if Greece will be attacked by the turks all neighbouring countries including here :Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania or Russia will go helping the greeks will all means.
 Quoting: Seelenheilkunde


hahahh you guys speaking nonsense..

IGNORANT NONSENSE .. not exucses..


TURKEY + USA = LOVE

AND USA + EU = ? no love ?

So .. logic ? or no logic ?

What attacks, what wars are you speaking about...

total ignorance..

peace yooo
 Quoting: ExTraDimensionaL777


we only have an interest in turkey as long as they are a muslim democracy that supports our wars and ambitions. there is no love. are you new to politics? all turkey needs is to elect a shia radical and they become part of the axis of evil, but as long as they have contracts with the pentagon and they pay their bill on time, we will allow them to exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899606


How is turkey going to elect a shia if 80% or more of the population is sunni?

total ignorance...

It seems you are the one who is new to politics..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32898593


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I wouldn't say so,if Greece will be attacked by the turks all neighbouring countries including here :Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania or Russia will go helping the greeks will all means.
 Quoting: Seelenheilkunde


hahahh you guys speaking nonsense..

IGNORANT NONSENSE .. not exucses..


TURKEY + USA = LOVE

AND USA + EU = ? no love ?

So .. logic ? or no logic ?

What attacks, what wars are you speaking about...

total ignorance..

peace yooo
 Quoting: ExTraDimensionaL777


we only have an interest in turkey as long as they are a muslim democracy that supports our wars and ambitions. there is no love. are you new to politics? all turkey needs is to elect a shia radical and they become part of the axis of evil, but as long as they have contracts with the pentagon and they pay their bill on time, we will allow them to exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899606


How is turkey going to elect a shia if 80% or more of the population is sunni?

total ignorance...

It seems you are the one who is new to politics..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32898593


oh, you mean like how syria is 74% sunni and they had alawi (shia) leader when only 13% of the population was shia.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

yeah frenchy, nothing bad happened in syria right.

shut the fuck up and go take a bath you dirty bastard
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Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
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They won't have to. Russia plans to turn Turkey into a sheet of glass
hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20542092


well that would be just fine...
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Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
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They won't have to. Russia plans to turn Turkey into a sheet of glass
hiding
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well that would be just fine...
 Quoting: davvi


no, it would not! we need them there to have someone to look out for israel if they ever get too cocky.
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Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31508826

I wouldn't say so,if Greece will be attacked by the turks all neighbouring countries including here :Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania or Russia will go helping the greeks will all means.
 Quoting: Seelenheilkunde


hahahh you guys speaking nonsense..

IGNORANT NONSENSE .. not exucses..


TURKEY + USA = LOVE

AND USA + EU = ? no love ?

So .. logic ? or no logic ?

What attacks, what wars are you speaking about...

total ignorance..

peace yooo
 Quoting: ExTraDimensionaL777


IF Turkey starts a war with Greece (I doubt that)...

Romania at start will try to defuse the situation (will ask Turkey to stop), but if it is forced to take a side, it will side with Greece, no questions ask.

And I am sure that Bulgaria and Serbia will do the same.

A muslim country ( doesn't matter WHO it is) will start a war with an orthodox country and expect other orthodox countries to just SIT and do nothing?

Not to mention the HUNDREDS of years that Bulgaria, Romania and Serbia had been under Ottomans.

As for the U.S....you guys just canceled a carrier trip to Guld because of MONEY.You will NOT intervene in this, because you guys will colide with Russia.

Romania fought the independence war of 1877-1878 against Turks.We kicked their sorry as, in the proces making them retreat from Bulgaria.Guess who helped us? That is right, the russians, with logistics and attacking Turkey on another front.

Also, if anyone think that Israel will be neutral...check your head.

They will side with Greece.


U.S. AT BEST, will have to choose bewtween Tutkey on one side and Greece, Romania, Bulgaria and Israel, first 3 being NATO members, on the other side.

Guess what will U.S. do lol.
 Quoting: recollector


well this sounds fine too, but are your forgetting the close personal relationship obama has with the muzz?
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Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
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They won't have to. Russia plans to turn Turkey into a sheet of glass
hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20542092


well that would be just fine...
 Quoting: davvi


no, it would not! we need them there to have someone to look out for israel if they ever get too cocky.
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by look out for israel, i mean keep them humble
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Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
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They won't have to. Russia plans to turn Turkey into a sheet of glass
hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20542092


well that would be just fine...
 Quoting: davvi


no, it would not! we need them there to have someone to look out for israel if they ever get too cocky.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899606



lol and you think turkey is the one to do it?
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The complete lack of evidence is the surest sign that the conspiracy is working.

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They won't have to. Russia plans to turn Turkey into a sheet of glass
hiding
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well that would be just fine...
 Quoting: davvi


no, it would not! we need them there to have someone to look out for israel if they ever get too cocky.
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by look out for israel, i mean keep them humble
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899606


i think you should have quit while you were ahead... yea i do.
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The complete lack of evidence is the surest sign that the conspiracy is working.

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Erdogan is just geting turkey into more and more trouble..
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yes because he wishes to have the excuse to lean more and more muzz.
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The complete lack of evidence is the surest sign that the conspiracy is working.

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Greek govt government seems to have decided to submit coordinates for the outer limits of the Greek continental shelf to the United Nations in the first months of 2013. On June 9th 1995, the Turkish parliament officially declared that unilateral action by Greece would constitute a casus belli.
[link to translate.google.gr]
[link to www.tovima.gr]

Davutoglu Warns Greece Against Oil exploration In The Aegean
[link to www.trtarabic.com]


Turkey closely following any Greek maneuver in Aegean disputes

[link to www.todayszaman.com]

16 islands snatched by Greece due to Turkey's negligence, experts claim. In the Aegean and the Mediterranean, there are 152 islands and islets of which the ownership is controversial

[link to www.todayszaman.com]

Norwegian company PGS is already conducting offshore seismic tests in Greek seas. License round is expected to take place in 2014.

[link to www.pgs.com]

More about the Aegean dispute
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Obvious trap is obvious.

damned
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be safe, my friend....hf
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The division in Cyprus is a major impediment for Turkey to be admitted to the European Union.

[link to cyprusfriendship.org]
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
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They won't have to. Russia plans to turn Turkey into a sheet of glass
hiding
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well that would be just fine...
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Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
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I wouldn't say so,if Greece will be attacked by the turks all neighbouring countries including here :Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania or Russia will go helping the greeks will all means.
 Quoting: Seelenheilkunde


hahahh you guys speaking nonsense..

IGNORANT NONSENSE .. not exucses..


TURKEY + USA = LOVE

AND USA + EU = ? no love ?

So .. logic ? or no logic ?

What attacks, what wars are you speaking about...

total ignorance..

peace yooo
 Quoting: ExTraDimensionaL777


we only have an interest in turkey as long as they are a muslim democracy that supports our wars and ambitions. there is no love. are you new to politics? all turkey needs is to elect a shia radical and they become part of the axis of evil, but as long as they have contracts with the pentagon and they pay their bill on time, we will allow them to exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899606


Get off your high horse dude, your country is no way in a position to decide which nation exist or not.

If we manage to kick out american puppets in control,i would gladly accept an alliance with our brothers Iranians.

You cant do shit.Even some afghani shepherds with rusty Aks and Rpgs kicked your sorry ass.

People like you are the ones who give Americans a bad reputation throughout the globe
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I wouldn't say so,if Greece will be attacked by the turks all neighbouring countries including here :Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania or Russia will go helping the greeks will all means.
 Quoting: Seelenheilkunde


hahahh you guys speaking nonsense..

IGNORANT NONSENSE .. not exucses..


TURKEY + USA = LOVE

AND USA + EU = ? no love ?

So .. logic ? or no logic ?

What attacks, what wars are you speaking about...

total ignorance..

peace yooo
 Quoting: ExTraDimensionaL777


we only have an interest in turkey as long as they are a muslim democracy that supports our wars and ambitions. there is no love. are you new to politics? all turkey needs is to elect a shia radical and they become part of the axis of evil, but as long as they have contracts with the pentagon and they pay their bill on time, we will allow them to exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22899606


Get off your high horse dude, your country is no way in a position to decide which nation exist or not.

If we manage to kick out american puppets in control,i would gladly accept an alliance with our brothers Iranians.

You cant do shit.Even some afghani shepherds with rusty Aks and Rpgs kicked your sorry ass.

People like you are the ones who give Americans a bad reputation throughout the globe
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hehe yes and no my turkey brother ..

Neither they (USA) .. neither the others they ( the shephards ) wanted a big thing.. especially the first ones.>

They have easier way, a satellite weapons, if so much needed, but noooo, THERE MUST BE A PROLONGED CONFLICT.. SO U CAN SELL WEAPONS..

You guys really dont get it.. those AK's are waay above '' rusty '' and trust me, on a RPG, there's nothing much to rust .....

But you still do not get it :

" THERE MUST BE A PROLONGED CONFLICT.. SO U CAN SELL WEAPONS.. "

SO WHERE THOSE AK's COME FROM ? ...

THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST IS FLOODED WITH THEM, AND MAYBE I LOVE RUSSIA.. BUT ITS THE ONLY PLACE RIGHT ABOUT NOW THAT MASSEVLEY PRODUCES AKs .....

So then again... Syria, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Afghanista... and many many more.. ALL USE AK-47 ................

AND NEXT TO THEM IS RUSSIA..

NOW EVEN A TWO YEARS OLD GONNA GUESS THE RIGHT ANSWER..

really sad Ive gotta point all those facts....

peace yo and WAKE UP
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not get it ??

okey then .. BUUUUUUUUUUUUMP

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Seems we've got the "go ahead" for the EEZ.

Greek PM: There're energy resources within the Greek EEZ.

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And seems France is in favour of the EEZ declaration, although Hollande is pro-Turkey.
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French PM Hollande is visiting Greece today accompanied by a business delegation. French are coming to show their political support and help 'modernize' the state but also for business, they are interested in the water privatization, real estate, oil/gas exploration and hear hear, despite the austerity they also want to sell some more weapons.
[link to www.ekathimerini.com]
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France wants to loan (and in the future to sell off course) to Greece 2 to 6 FREMM frigates that French state-run warship maker DCNS is currently building, apparently DCNS is having some financial problems too and the deal would be great for them. French Defense Minister is also expected to visit Athens soon. I should add here that EU played a massive role in opposing Greece of getting 400 free tanks offered by USA using the excuse of transport expenses but they've included 11+ billions of weapons from their own industries into the bailout (lol). The frigates are part of this bailout deal.
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We had very important elections taking place in Cyprus 2 days ago. Anastasiades who is pro-bailout, won the first round and is a favorite to win next week too in the second and final round. Hacker group Anonymous threatened to attack Cyprus election without giving a precise reason for it other than that "the future of Cyprus, the future of the world, the future of all of us" depends on these elections. blink
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Anastasiades is or at least as he says 'was' a pro-Annan plan politician as he had supported the plan. Uncovered by various wikileaks cables he seems to be supportive for a new Annan plan.Turks and Turkish press off course were rooting for an Anastasiades win.
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The daily and most important news the last couple of months in Cyprus, besides the elections, are the bailout negotiations and if Russia is going to be involved in the bailout or not, troika wants to take control of the energy revenues and gas deposits and the negotiations are ongoing for months now. Off course troika attempts to snatch the gas revenues haven't gone down too well with Cypriot govt.

Eurogroup president: future revenues from natural gas deposits in Cyprus could be taken into account in bailout talks, Deutsche Bank seems to agree with him too off course.
[link to www.cyprus-mail.com]
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Cypus Commerce Minister: Cyprus can manage its own gas thanks, Cyprus govt spokesman: Some are coveting the Russian deposits and possibly natural gas in Cyprus
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ECB President Draghi at odds with German Finance Minister Schäuble over Cyprus bailout, ECB's Asmussen sees Cyprus bailout by end of March
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Russia's Medvedev: help for Cyprus only if conditions met, G-20 meeting: EU Official Urges Russia to Join Cyprus Bailout
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In other news, Cyprus has upgraded Palestine’s diplomatic mission to that of an embassy, Hellenic-Israeli alliance is formed in US congress for the first time.
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Don't forget to cover the defense pact that is developing between Israel and Greece, in exchange for drilling rights of course.
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Well, since the defense pact has been signed in 2011, it's not that "developing" now is it? I don't have problem to report something about it, but i think everyone in the world is aware of it after the mini-crisis in Cyprus on 2011.

You're wrong off course about the 'exchange for drilling rights' and jumping to your own conclusions. Firstly, Greece is years away from drilling, secondly Israel doesn't need more drilling rights anywhere else, both Leviathan and Tamar have more natgas and drilling rights than Israel can handle, this is about geographical space and Israel having common maritime borders with the EU so they can sell/transport their gas in Europe and they have decided to do this through Cyprus/Greece, that's why Turkey is pissed and that's why the sea between Greece and Cyprus and the EEZ of Kastelorizo are very important for this story.

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All of the oil and natural gas is in the Ionian Sea and below Crete, so there isn't actually anything to be bothered with the Turks. There is no obstacle in exploiting these oil/gas sources other than they must estimate their sizes. Until now they estimate it in some trillion of euros worth only for the one under Crete, so this is not bad at all.
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That's true. According to Lygeros estimates there are 20 billion barrels under Crete, 6 billion in Aegean and 2 billion in Ionian.
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Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
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Could very well be. FYI Greece is not governed by Greeks the last 3 years, this is international criminal banking cartel, EU and IMF war-mongering that want to push the 2 countries in to a conflict after they sold to both of the countries billions and billions worth of weapons. Parallels with the 1967 CIA imposed military coup that led to Cyprus invasion are obvious for me.

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they are both in NATO. unless the treaty is broken, which seems unlikely without some sort of larger war that they get sucked into, then they will have to compromise on who gets the islands. looks like greece is taking advantage of the syria situation.
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Both NATO indeed and that's what i'm telling since the start, this can't go full scale annihilation, it always have been a controllable conflict by all major powers, maybe a 2-day conflict at most but that's about it. Islands are not disputable and most of them are inhabited by Greek population, so there won't be any dealing there just typical Turkish twisting of intl. law foreign policy. Islands are the excuse for Turkey who just want some oil, point is if an energy-thirsty EU will give them some from EU soil. EU in it's own EEZ maps fully back the Greek position on the matter, should be interesting for sure.
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be safe, my friend....hf
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Thanks mate, you too. hf
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Get off your high horse dude, your country is no way in a position to decide which nation exist or not.

If we manage to kick out american puppets in control,i would gladly accept an alliance with our brothers Iranians.

You cant do shit.Even some afghani shepherds with rusty Aks and Rpgs kicked your sorry ass.

People like you are the ones who give Americans a bad reputation throughout the globe
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Whats up Anatolian? Hope you're well.5a
Alliance with Iran is quite hard to be achieved they way things are going right now imo, lots of things need to happen, a revolution probably. Already fighting 1 and half proxy war with them and i can see one more coming soon.

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