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Message Subject So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
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1) While the "position" of Turkey is understandable -- to the extent that inherently childish if blood-thirsty Islamists conduct is ever truly rational... it is certainly NOT acceptable. Not by Greece, Cyprus, not by US/NATO, certainly not by Israel ---> even Turkey's former buddies Iran & Syria are increadinglt pissed off at it. No wonder, Erdogan & Davotoglu rode Ataturk/Western/Secular coat-tales & suddenly they think they're some kind of geo-strategic, neo-Ottoman geniuses???? LOL, even economically speaking, without billions in (temporary) investments & credits from Riyadh, Doha and Qatar, Turkish bubble would pop so fast like you wouldn't believe!

2) Gas & oil. Israel for decades had no natural resources, and despite being a tiny, massively outnumbered country, despite all the political/economic wars & unremitting terror attempts it internally... somehow it not just survived but flourished & made the formerly swampy, malaria-stricken, desolate desert bloom in very short period of time, historicall speaking. Now, Israel has discovered oil & gas, both off-shore and shale... great. So if Turkey thinks somehow it's entitled to muscle into the game literally 100's of kilometers beyond its shores, it's got another thing coming. Mavi Marmara, Palmer Report, etc should have taught them a lesson, but I guess it didn't.

3) Russia. Its mafia & business have significant presence in Cyprus and Russia is also warming up ties with Israel -- which is a smart thing, especially since Arab "Spring" has shown that you can never rely on Muslims stability or peace... Do you think for ONE moment Russia will allow Turkey to bully its interests in the region? After all that trouble Turkey helped cause in the Caucuses, as someone else mentioned?

If Turkey doesn't stop fucking around, it would be better idea if Turkey leave NATO and Russia eventually join (post-Putin, probably).
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I said understandable coz i honestly do understand their point of view on the matter, but this doesn't mean that i agree with it, their position is illegal, against intl. law and against Greek/Cypriot and thus EU sovereignty end of story, can't get more simple than that really. This won't get out of hand, maybe a small crisis will take place to promote/further a different agenda but that's about it.

In my view i compare modern Turkey role with the role that Germany had in ww2, the ultra-nationalist/fascist kemalist establishment that was formed in the 15-20's on tons of innocent blood still hasn't been defeated militarily since then, today, like nazi Germany all kinds of liberties/freedoms are oppressed by a regime that has no opponent anymore and goes more authoritarian by the day, illusions of grandeur are spread on all govt and the average ignorant citizen level by a booming economy based on China like standards that helps the state and companies the most, Erdogan kicking IMF and banksters out, bad relations and aggressive policies with every single one of their neighbors and i'm sure that in the end they will attack most of their neighbors and the comparing list is endless from here.

It's not in the interests of either Russia or USA or any other major power, that Turkey will go into a global power status mode with plans of going nuclear soon and bullying the whole region. And that's what i'm trying to point out here, this won't go one on one Greece vs Turkey who are both NATO members btw, but oppressed secular Turks/Greece/Cyprus/Israel/Russia/Syria/Kurds/Iraq/Iran/Armenia/Bulgaria vs Turkey. You can add big oil companies and Italy and France to that list that just got oil contracts in Cyprus and want contracts in Greece too. Not even Iran has that many enemies in the region, it's friggin unreal and a whole different ball game. Intelligent Turks that are not brainwashed by their state propaganda know what's the agenda and the endgame here, they know it since they made the change from kemalist/secular to islamist.
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Erdogan seems to overthrowed kemalist remnants in government,but they are no better than kemalists...I passionately hate both kemalists and islamists since they are all authoritarian fascists.To be honest ,kemalist regime was the most bloodthirsty fascist regime by far.

Some of you think turkey would attack israel but its not likely because turkey was created by crypto-jews(donmehs) and they are still in power, nearly all rich people in turkey are consisted by them.They appear to be muslims but one can understand that they are crypto-jews by their names/surnames and their kemalist,ultra nationalist,elitist approach.

Those crypto-jews infiltrated power structre of Ottoman Empire in 19th century and caused its demise. Sabbatean jews from Thessaloniki (ataturk was one of them) and other jews from balkans formed a political party called Ittihat ve Terakki...They were populist and used every kind of propaganda to get in power...They pacified sultan by a coup d'etat (Raid of Bab-i Ali). They forced Ottoman Empire to join WW1 by the side of Germany therefore caused fragmentation of Ottoman lands and creation of Turkey(also israel).

Crypto-jew regime were also responsible for Armenian genocide.They wanted a homogenous anatolia,also Armenians were mostly rich people and they wanted their riches.So they exiled and exterminated them.They even released criminals from jails to harass exiled armenians on the road.Yakub Cemil enlisted most dangerous criminals from the Prison of Sinop for that job.

Those sabbatean jews wrote the official ideology,history and propaganda of Turkey.Moiz Kohen-later changed his name to Munis Tekin Alp- created kemalist ideology.They created Turkish ultranationalism.They forcibly tried to assimilate different folks of anatolia.Those who didnt comply and didnt accept new made-up turkish identity and authoritarian government got exterminated(Massacre of Zaza tribes in Dersim,current oppression of Kurds)

There are still secret masonic ultranationalist/authoritarian/statist organizations within government...They organized many military coups and are responsible of missing and murder of many individuals.Turkish Armed forces are still under jewish control.
For example former General Basbug(currently jailed) in Israel :

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I hope the day will come when anatolia will be cleansed of those vermins and people of anatolia will regain their freedom.We need a revolution asap but %99 of people here are too brainwashed to realize that.I pity them they dont know the myths they learnt by official education are nothing but lies.They dont know who they truly are and dont know the dark past of their state.
 
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