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Message Subject So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
Poster Handle Gregor Samsa
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Hey mate, you are right about the settlers from mainland Turkey there, but your numbers are wrong methinks. According to your numbers there are only 100k Turkish Cypriots, but even in 1960 there were 104.000 T/C , 50 years ago???. And this number is the result of an island-wide census man:

[link to www.cyprusdirectory.net]

I gave the 1570 reference because of the reference of the Turkish Cypriots, that a some proportion of the Turkish population were living there and didn't settle there after 1974 (and yes many did). I think you know my point of view even a little bit so i don't think you mean when you ask "Ottomans conquered Syria, Israel and all of the Balkans too, does this mean that these places are or have something Turkish in them or that the Turkey has a claim on these lands?" tounge

Believe me (or not) only a few Turkish people have imperial Ottoman view, i think even most of the nationalists have not such a dream.

Yeah i am not happy either with the Turkish troops there, but you know what happened there in 1970's before they get there, don't you?
 Quoting: Gregor Samsa

I know you're cool mate, hehe. :)
Before British got in the game in the 50's the 2 communities were living peacefully. I just can't understand how Turkey wants this dispute to end if they don't even recognize Republic of Cyprus as a state in the first place, only country in the world that still doesn't i think. And they threaten Cyprus with further military action every other month. How does this help? The island has no army for it's protection ffs.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername

I want to repeat that i don't support any military and imperialistic action, but were there any Turkish soldier before 1963 when the violence against the Turkish Cypriots started ?

"Greek Cypriot fanatics appear bent on a policy of genocide." Washington Post ,17 February 1964

"The Greek Cypriot Minister of the Interior admitted that he had controlled the attack in Limassol himself."
The Guardian 26th February 1964

From a report from Michael Stephen. Michael Stephen is Master of Laws (LL M) of the Inner Temple Barrister and a former member of
the British House of Commons. He is also member of the Royal Institute of International Affairs,
Chatham House and author of The Cyprus Question, London, 1997.

The crux of the current Cyprus problem is not the failure of Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots to
reach agreement, but the internationalisation of the issue, and the failure of the international
community to recognise the enormity of the injustice done for nearly forty years to the Turkish
Cypriots by the Greek Cypriots and by the international community itself. The failure of the
international community to acknowledge the reality of Cyprus and to refrain from seeking to impose
its own framework for a solution, starting from the fiction that there is today only one state and only
one government in the island, has made a Cyprus settlement impossible. Until this international
attitude changes, no amount of talks or diplomatic pressure will succeed or will deserve to succeed

The fundamental cause of the problem is that the international community has been, and still is,
willing to overlook a systematic attempt at genocide by the Greek Cypriots in 1963 and again in
1964, 1967 and 1974, and the destruction by the Greek Cypriots in 1963 of the republic which was
established by the 1960 Constitution and guaranteed by international Treaty. They have also been
willing to overlook the fact that for 11 years after 1963 the Turkish Cypriots were driven from their
homes, farms and businesses, and squeezed into defended enclaves comprising only three percent of
the island, deprived of the basic necessities of modern life - all this despite the existence of a solemn
international guarantee and UN troops actually in Cyprus since 1964.

[link to sam.gov.tr] (pdf)
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