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Do pushing gun control means that...we as a society gave up on
we as a society gave up on rising mentally-emotionally healthy children? Who can turn later into responsible, reasonable sane adults?????
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Re: Do pushing gun control means that...we as a society gave up on
Every real change has to start with the children. As long as their real needs are not taken care of, too many of them grow up as frustrated, depressed, angry, sauvage.
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Re: Do pushing gun control means that...we as a society gave up on
I think you're right.
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we as a society gave up on rising mentally-emotionally healthy children? Who can turn later into responsible, reasonable sane adults?????
 Quoting: emerald_glow

Or maybe this?

Columbine mass-killer Eric Harris was taking Luvox – like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor and many others, a modern and widely prescribed type of antidepressant drug called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs. Harris and fellow student Dylan Klebold went on a hellish school shooting rampage in 1999 during which they killed 12 students and a teacher and wounded 24 others before turning their guns on themselves.

Patrick Purdy went on a schoolyard shooting rampage in Stockton, Calif., in 1989, which became the catalyst for the original legislative frenzy to ban “semiautomatic assault weapons” in California and the nation. The 25-year-old Purdy, who murdered five children and wounded 30, had been on Amitriptyline, an antidepressant, as well as the antipsychotic drug Thorazine.

Kip Kinkel, 15, murdered his parents in 1998 and the next day went to his school, Thurston High in Springfield, Ore., and opened fire on his classmates, killing two and wounding 22 others. He had been prescribed both Prozac and Ritalin.
In 1988, 31-year-old Laurie Dann went on a shooting rampage in a second-grade classroom in Winnetka, Ill., killing one child and wounding six. She had been taking the antidepressant Anafranil as well as Lithium, long used to treat mania.

In Paducah, Ky., in late 1997, 14-year-old Michael Carneal, son of a prominent attorney, traveled to Heath High School and started shooting students in a prayer meeting taking place in the school’s lobby, killing three and leaving another paralyzed. Carneal reportedly was on Ritalin.

In 2005, 16-year-old Native American Jeff Weise, living on Minnesota’s Red Lake Indian Reservation, shot and killed nine people and wounded five others before killing himself. Weise had been taking Prozac.

In another famous case, 47-year-old Joseph T. Wesbecker, just a month after he began taking Prozac in 1989, shot 20 workers at Standard Gravure Corp. in Louisville, Ky., killing nine.

Kurt Danysh, 18, shot his own father to death in 1996, a little more than two weeks after starting on Prozac. Danysh’s description of own his mental-emotional state at the time of the murder is chilling: “I didn’t realize I did it until after it was done,” Danysh said. “This might sound weird, but it felt like I had no control of what I was doing, like I was left there just holding a gun.”

John Hinckley, age 25, took four Valium two hours before shooting and almost killing President Ronald Reagan in 1981.

Andrea Yates, in one of the most heartrending crimes in modern history, drowned all five of her children – aged 7 years down to 6 months – in a bathtub. Insisting inner voices commanded her to kill her children, she had become increasingly psychotic over the course of several years. At her 2006 murder re-trial (after a 2002 guilty verdict was overturned on appeal), Yates’ longtime friend Debbie Holmes testified: “She asked me if I thought Satan could read her mind and if I believed in demon possession.” And Dr. George Ringholz, after evaluating Yates for two days, recounted an experience she had after the birth of her first child: “What she described was feeling a presence … Satan … telling her to take a knife and stab her son Noah,” Ringholz said, adding that Yates’ delusion at the time of the bathtub murders was not only that she had to kill her children to save them, but that Satan had entered her and that she had to be executed in order to kill Satan.Yates had been taking the antidepressant Effexor.


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we as a society gave up on rising mentally-emotionally healthy children? Who can turn later into responsible, reasonable sane adults?????
 Quoting: emerald_glow

Or maybe this?

Columbine mass-killer Eric Harris was taking Luvox – like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor and many others.......................................................​.............................................................​.................................................Read more at [link to www.wnd.com]
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You are right, AC. Every study trying to prove the effectiveness of antidepressants failed, yet they are given to most anyone. My guess though, that there are other reasons, too.

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Re: Do pushing gun control means that...we as a society gave up on
The first 3 years are essential in any child's emotional development. They need a feeling of warmth, safety, while the LEARN to be happy, to overcome difficulties and sadness, learn to love, and accept love.

This seems to be lost somewhere in the past 3-4 generations...meaning that the parents are not able to give them, cus they did not get it from theirs.
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Re: Do pushing gun control means that...we as a society gave up on
In most cases they don't even have time. It is practically impossible to give this to your child, if you are a mother forced to work full time in order to make a living.

It makes you unpatient, always frustrated at times even rude.
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Re: Do pushing gun control means that...we as a society gave up on
The first 3 years are essential in any child's emotional development. They need a feeling of warmth, safety, while the LEARN to be happy, to overcome difficulties and sadness, learn to love, and accept love.

This seems to be lost somewhere in the past 3-4 generations...meaning that the parents are not able to give them, cus they did not get it from theirs.
 Quoting: emerald_glow


From what I've seen, Parents are too quick to send their kids to "Day Care", where they don't get what they need, starting problems at a very young age.
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Re: Do pushing gun control means that...we as a society gave up on
The first 3 years are essential in any child's emotional development. They need a feeling of warmth, safety, while the LEARN to be happy, to overcome difficulties and sadness, learn to love, and accept love.

This seems to be lost somewhere in the past 3-4 generations...meaning that the parents are not able to give them, cus they did not get it from theirs.
 Quoting: emerald_glow


From what I've seen, Parents are too quick to send their kids to "Day Care", where they don't get what they need, starting problems at a very young age.
 Quoting: chaakin


I have to agree, although in most cases parents have no alternative. They both have to work to make a living...in many countries families get help to raise their children, so one of them can stay home till the child reaches 3 years. It is not charity: the rest of society's best interest.
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