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SnowboardingAlien

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well? what do you think?

I want to get it done out of curiosity, but at the same time I don't want some independent company to have my DNA. Who knows what else they will do with it.

Curiosity killed the cat.

What is the best company that does this?
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dna
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dna
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wow where did u get this picture.... that "monkey" is me... I've learned to type!
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i wouldn't want to give any private company my DNA.
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just use a fake name/birth date
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just use a fake name/birth date
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GENIUS!!!
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well? what do you think?

I want to get it done out of curiosity, but at the same time I don't want some independent company to have my DNA. Who knows what else they will do with it.

Curiosity killed the cat.

What is the best company that does this?
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just what are you trying to find out?
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i wouldn't want to give any private company my DNA.
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they'll use it to make monsters.
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well? what do you think?

I want to get it done out of curiosity, but at the same time I don't want some independent company to have my DNA. Who knows what else they will do with it.

Curiosity killed the cat.

What is the best company that does this?
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just what are you trying to find out?
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ancestry and haplo groups
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well? what do you think?

I want to get it done out of curiosity, but at the same time I don't want some independent company to have my DNA. Who knows what else they will do with it.

Curiosity killed the cat.

What is the best company that does this?
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just what are you trying to find out?
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ancestry and haplo groups
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I'm sorry, but do you not know your race?...
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This is where I had got mine and I thought they were great.

[link to www.igenea.com]
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well? what do you think?

I want to get it done out of curiosity, but at the same time I don't want some independent company to have my DNA. Who knows what else they will do with it.

Curiosity killed the cat.

What is the best company that does this?
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien


just what are you trying to find out?
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ancestry and haplo groups
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I'm sorry, but do you not know your race?...
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I know my race, just want to know percentages
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This is where I had got mine and I thought they were great.

[link to www.igenea.com]
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thank you
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This is where I had got mine and I thought they were great.

[link to www.igenea.com]
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What were they able to tell you?

Is it very extensive? Or is it vague information?
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found this one too

[link to genographic.nationalgeographic.com (secure)]

still can't decide on which one is the best
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This is where I had got mine and I thought they were great.

[link to www.igenea.com]
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how comprehensive was it? do they give details or is it vague?
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There are several different tests. If you are a female, you can only test for your maternal mtDNA. If you are a man, you can have your mtDNA and paternal YDNA 37 markers tested. They are pretty comprehensive. I got both my mtDNA and YDNA tested for around $500 or so.

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I participated in the National Geographic Genographic project for about a $100 a couple of years ago. Gave me my haplogroup (H) and some information.

My DNA is stored at Family Tree where I can upgrade and they will do further testing if I wish. I can request that they destroy my sample if I don't want them to have it...who knows if they comply or not.
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This is where I had got mine and I thought they were great.

[link to www.igenea.com]
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What were they able to tell you?

Is it very extensive? Or is it vague information?
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You'll probably have to spend a few hundred dollars for percentages and more markers tested.
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Heraclitus
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I participated in the National Geographic Genographic project for about a $100 a couple of years ago. Gave me my haplogroup (H) and some information.

My DNA is stored at Family Tree where I can upgrade and they will do further testing if I wish. I can request that they destroy my sample if I don't want them to have it...who knows if they comply or not.
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Hey Knights..just curious..what is your haplogroup? Of course it's private if you don't want to share I understand. If that's you in the pic maybe we're related LOL
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I participated in the National Geographic Genographic project for about a $100 a couple of years ago. Gave me my haplogroup (H) and some information.

My DNA is stored at Family Tree where I can upgrade and they will do further testing if I wish. I can request that they destroy my sample if I don't want them to have it...who knows if they comply or not.
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Hey Knights..just curious..what is your haplogroup? Of course it's private if you don't want to share I understand. If that's you in the pic maybe we're related LOL
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I AM H as well and on my fathers E1b1b1c YDNA. peace
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I participated in the National Geographic Genographic project for about a $100 a couple of years ago. Gave me my haplogroup (H) and some information.

My DNA is stored at Family Tree where I can upgrade and they will do further testing if I wish. I can request that they destroy my sample if I don't want them to have it...who knows if they comply or not.
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Hey Knights..just curious..what is your haplogroup? Of course it's private if you don't want to share I understand. If that's you in the pic maybe we're related LOL
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I AM H as well and on my fathers E1b1b1c YDNA. peace
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My grandma was from Sweden and the rest are pretty much Irish.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
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time to save up
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well? what do you think?

I want to get it done out of curiosity, but at the same time I don't want some independent company to have my DNA. Who knows what else they will do with it.

Curiosity killed the cat.

What is the best company that does this?
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just what are you trying to find out?
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You swab your mouth, send it in and you get back a map with where your ancestors came from.
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I participated in the National Geographic Genographic project for about a $100 a couple of years ago. Gave me my haplogroup (H) and some information.

My DNA is stored at Family Tree where I can upgrade and they will do further testing if I wish. I can request that they destroy my sample if I don't want them to have it...who knows if they comply or not.
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Hey Knights..just curious..what is your haplogroup? Of course it's private if you don't want to share I understand. If that's you in the pic maybe we're related LOL
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I AM H as well and on my fathers E1b1b1c YDNA. peace
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My grandma was from Sweden and the rest are pretty much Irish.
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Murphy?
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still saving up, will be interesting to find this out
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I have tested with both 23andMe and FamilyTreeDNA.

The service you choose should depend on what you really want to receive out of this testing.

Do you have any (ANY) interest in DNA-related health impacts? If so, then you want to use 23andMe, as all the other companies specifically limit their testing to ancestry/haplotyping/genealogy and avoid any medical implications.

If you might be interested in medical info as well as ancestry, I would consider 23andMe. 23andMe allows you to download your raw data, and after you have done that, some other companies (like FamilyTreeDNA) will allow you to transfer your results to their system by uploading your raw data file.

Are you male or female, OP? If you are male, FamilyTreeDNA can provide full mitochondrial sequencing (which I've had done) and Y-DNA marker testing at 11, 37, 67, or 110 markers, which is useful for tracing your direct male ancestor line. If you are female, you have no Y-DNA to test but you can have a close male relative tested if you wish.

Both 23andMe and FTDNA provide haplotype information for mitochondrial and Y-DNA (if you're male). FTDNA's information is more exact. Both 23andMe and FTDNA have rather large genealogy communities containing people that do paper genealogy and attempt to link their test results with those of others with whom they appear to be related.

23andMe has one test. FTDNA has a dozen or so different tests. The FTDNA "Family Finder" test is comparable to the 23andMe test, although as I said before it excludes medical information.

Please be aware, though, that the ancestral origins indicated by mitochondrial or Y-DNA haplotypes are generally not very useful for recent ancestry. They'll tell you where your ancestors came from several thousand years ago, but not much about times more recent than that.

I've really enjoyed having my results. My Y-DNA testing has clearly indicated that there are no adoptions along my direct male ancestry line and that I descend from the same particular French immigrant to Canada in the 1600s as do all the others in North America who share my surname or variants of it. My mitochondrial testing however shows that I have a relatively rare mtDNA haplotype.

The really interesting part is that on FTDNA I found another person who tested and is a 100% match on full mitochondrial sequence. This means there's 99.9% probability that we're directly related on the female line somewhere within the last 16 generations. See that? 100% match, but relation may be as far as 16 generations away. Unfortunately she's adopted and does not know her maternal line and I am only able to trace my maternal line back to the mid-1800s in North Carolina -- this is a haplotype that MAY come from the Cherokee in that area but I haven't followed up with additional testing through a company (DNA Consultants) that has a significant library of mtDNA from Amerindian-descended people.

If you're already a user of ancestry.com for genealogy, you may wish to use their AncestryDNA test. I have not. But apparently it is linked in very well with their family trees and has some automated matching in there to find ancestors with names shared between your tree and those of the other people with whom you have a match. They also do not provide any medical information.


Your own physical capabilities may also influence the test you choose to have done. FTDNA uses a cheek swab, 23andMe uses a saliva sample. Are you capable of producing a decent amount of saliva? If not, 23andMe may be difficult for you.

Either way, if you use one of the services like FTDNA or 23andMe that allows raw data download, I very very much encourage you to submit your data to www.gedmatch.com which is a site that allows uploads of this data and facilitates comparisons between users of the different testing services and also includes comparison of family tree data (provided by uploading a typical GEDCOM file).

I can answer almost anything you might want to ask on the subject.
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I just read a bit more carefully, and I see that the OP is primarily interested in identifying percentages of geographical origin for his/her genetic ancestry.

My advice to you there is don't bother with Y-DNA or mitochondrial DNA testing. For ethnicity percentages, you need to have a lot more tested than that. The 23andMe ($99) or the FamilyTreeDNA "Family Finder" ($289) or the National Geographic Genographic Project ($199) would probably be best for you.

You can also try DNA Tribes for $129-$229 but they use a different technology (analyzing short tandem repeats rather than single nucleotide polymorphisms). See [link to www.dnatribes.com] for a sample of the kind of results that they provide.

Also consider the DNA Fingerprint Test Plus ($300) from DNA Consultants, you can get more info on this one at [link to dnaconsultants.com] and see a sample report at [link to dnaconsultants.com] . They use short tandem repeats like DNA Tribes does.

There is ongoing discussion in the genetic ancestry communities about whether or not STR or SNP data is better for inferring ancestry. It probably depends on your exact background and the databases used by the vendor as far as how accurate your results will be.

For example, I am essentially 100% white. I have most of my lines traced back reasonably far, between five to thirteen generations back. I am primarily French, Irish, Scots-Irish and German.

According to 23andMe, my ancestral breakdown is:
99.9% European
0.1% sub-Saharan African
less than 0.1% undefined

According to FamilyTreeDNA, run against data I uploaded from my 23andMe download, I am:
90.07% +/- 8.39% western European (French, Orcadian, Spanish)
9.93% +/- 8.39% European (Tuscan, Sardinian, Finnish)

According to a MUCH more detailed ancestral breakdown courtesy of GEDmatch.com (Eurogenes K9, one of the many available there), I am:
64.73% North European
26.46% Mediterranean
5.53% Caucasus
1.99% Southwest Asian
0.78% North Amerindian + Arctic
0.51% South Asian


All of these are run using the exact same input data of mine that 23andMe produced. The difference is the database used to infer ethnicity.

Another example from GEDmatch (HarappaWorld) :
48.89% Northeast European
31.56% Mediterranean
8.69% Caucasian
8.39% Baloch
1.46% Southwest Asian
0.46% American Indian
0.39% Papuan
0.17% Southeast Asian


23andMe isn't the best source for analyzing ancestry. But they produce data using a standard chip that makes it easier to analyze it using other tools if you are so inclined. Several other sources also accept their input files (like the $289 Family Finder test at FTDNA is only $89 if you transfer your 23andMe data).

If you know what you're doing and find some distant relatives with matches in relevant DNA segments, you can do some really interesting research...
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I participated in the National Geographic Genographic project for about a $100 a couple of years ago. Gave me my haplogroup (H) and some information.

My DNA is stored at Family Tree where I can upgrade and they will do further testing if I wish. I can request that they destroy my sample if I don't want them to have it...who knows if they comply or not.
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You are probably being cloned as we speak....
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I just read a bit more carefully, and I see that the OP is primarily interested in identifying percentages of geographical origin for his/her genetic ancestry.

My advice to you there is don't bother with Y-DNA or mitochondrial DNA testing. For ethnicity percentages, you need to have a lot more tested than that. The 23andMe ($99) or the FamilyTreeDNA "Family Finder" ($289) or the National Geographic Genographic Project ($199) would probably be best for you.

You can also try DNA Tribes for $129-$229 but they use a different technology (analyzing short tandem repeats rather than single nucleotide polymorphisms). See [link to www.dnatribes.com] for a sample of the kind of results that they provide.

Also consider the DNA Fingerprint Test Plus ($300) from DNA Consultants, you can get more info on this one at [link to dnaconsultants.com] and see a sample report at [link to dnaconsultants.com] . They use short tandem repeats like DNA Tribes does.

There is ongoing discussion in the genetic ancestry communities about whether or not STR or SNP data is better for inferring ancestry. It probably depends on your exact background and the databases used by the vendor as far as how accurate your results will be.

For example, I am essentially 100% white. I have most of my lines traced back reasonably far, between five to thirteen generations back. I am primarily French, Irish, Scots-Irish and German.

According to 23andMe, my ancestral breakdown is:
99.9% European
0.1% sub-Saharan African
less than 0.1% undefined

According to FamilyTreeDNA, run against data I uploaded from my 23andMe download, I am:
90.07% +/- 8.39% western European (French, Orcadian, Spanish)
9.93% +/- 8.39% European (Tuscan, Sardinian, Finnish)

According to a MUCH more detailed ancestral breakdown courtesy of GEDmatch.com (Eurogenes K9, one of the many available there), I am:
64.73% North European
26.46% Mediterranean
5.53% Caucasus
1.99% Southwest Asian
0.78% North Amerindian + Arctic
0.51% South Asian


All of these are run using the exact same input data of mine that 23andMe produced. The difference is the database used to infer ethnicity.

Another example from GEDmatch (HarappaWorld) :
48.89% Northeast European
31.56% Mediterranean
8.69% Caucasian
8.39% Baloch
1.46% Southwest Asian
0.46% American Indian
0.39% Papuan
0.17% Southeast Asian


23andMe isn't the best source for analyzing ancestry. But they produce data using a standard chip that makes it easier to analyze it using other tools if you are so inclined. Several other sources also accept their input files (like the $289 Family Finder test at FTDNA is only $89 if you transfer your 23andMe data).

If you know what you're doing and find some distant relatives with matches in relevant DNA segments, you can do some really interesting research...
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sorry, under the one drop rule, u r a negro!
0.1% sub-Saharan African
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well? what do you think?

I want to get it done out of curiosity, but at the same time I don't want some independent company to have my DNA. Who knows what else they will do with it.

Curiosity killed the cat.

What is the best company that does this?
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I got mine through FamilyTreeDNA several years ago. Haplogroup H5a, here. Good luck in your search, OP. afro

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