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If the economy collapses who is going to benefit?

 
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01/08/2013 04:26 AM
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Re: If the economy collapses who is going to benefit?
Obama was not elected, he was chosen. The news media just want you to believe he is on our side and what we wanted. Romney was never going to be president because Obama is doing such a great job furthering the agenda of the shadow government/world bank mafiosos.

911 was a shadow government sanctioned operation whether the Bush Administration knew or didn't know about it doesn't matter. 911 was the catalyst of furthering the bad guys agenda.

They are poisoning the drinking water and food supply. They are staging violent events to sway public opinion to support disarming all citizens. We are being Mind Controlled by many methods but most directly by TV.

We are victims. There will be a civil war in the near future, two or three years from now. Millions will die from starvation, poisoned drinking water, man-made pandemics and catastrophes. It is coming. Obama and the congress are wolves in sheeps clothing and their allegiance isn't to the Constitution or Bill of Rights, it's to these few old men who own the world banks and tell puppet Obama what to say and do.

Flee to New Zealand or Fiji. The alternative is death for most Americans. The armed revolutionaries will appear in five years but by then most of our population will be slaughtered.
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I agree, but I think your timeline may be a little conservative. We'll see.

There are several places people can go to get away from the NWO Flagship called the USSA, not just NZ or Fiji. There are the Phillipines, Thailand, Bahamas, other Caribbean Islands, some places in South America, etc. No place is perfect, and each has it's pros & cons, but many places are tolerable, and in some ways freer than the USSA.

I see kids all the time backpacking around these international places, so it's definitely do-able for your average person to get out and recon places to bug-out to when the need arises. It's time to lay the groundwork now, before the borders are closed and the prison-nation becomes a reality.

It's time to 'Go Galt'. I did.
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01/08/2013 08:44 AM
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I have been thinking long and hard about this. So please let me try out a theory.

It is trivially easy to get promiscuous sex, porn, alcohol, drugs. The social safety-net allows you all of these things and having children too!

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Really! The sex and (good)drugs seem very hard to get.
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Well I also admitted to being an oldster. So my evidence in this regard is anecdotal. But I rarely see young people of any shape and size who don't have both kids and f-buddies.

But to further my points. You can get a 50" plasma TV for $400. In my day wealthy people would regularly plop down $5k every couple of years to have the latest 200 lb CRT or Rear projection behemoths with Picture in Picture. And you HAD to watch commercials most of the time. Now a days you can stream just about anything you want for next to free. 3 and 4 feeds at a time, much less need to watch a commercial on any one of them.

Autos are another thing. The dealers are channel stuffing. The government is running things like cash for clunkers to keep all the used cars off the market. The dealers are doing as much or more on their own to keep used car prices absurdly high, but they can not stop private sales.

I guess the Media is what controlled my generation. I look at reruns now and can not image why we thought any of the mainstream stuff was relevant. On the other hand, modern mainstream stuff can not hold any adjenda, they have to get ratings. Network T.V. has shows where the young heros/heroines openly talk about how anal sex on the first date is good way to keep the guy interested. These shows are also usually built around partner swapping in every other episode. wtf

I think my core observation is we are heading to Mike Judge's Idiocracy. My problem is, I don't see the reason not to considering how TPTB treated the few people who actually tried to stem the tide. All the bad actors are getting bailed out, and the responsible people will be the ones destroyed by a total collapse in the economy.
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01/08/2013 10:45 AM
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Re: If the economy collapses who is going to benefit?
I have been thinking long and hard about this. So please let me try out a theory.

It is trivially easy to get promiscuous sex, porn, alcohol, drugs. The social safety-net allows you all of these things and having children too!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31714305


Really! The sex and (good)drugs seem very hard to get.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31215292


Well I also admitted to being an oldster. So my evidence in this regard is anecdotal. But I rarely see young people of any shape and size who don't have both kids and f-buddies.

But to further my points. You can get a 50" plasma TV for $400. In my day wealthy people would regularly plop down $5k every couple of years to have the latest 200 lb CRT or Rear projection behemoths with Picture in Picture. And you HAD to watch commercials most of the time. Now a days you can stream just about anything you want for next to free. 3 and 4 feeds at a time, much less need to watch a commercial on any one of them.

Autos are another thing. The dealers are channel stuffing. The government is running things like cash for clunkers to keep all the used cars off the market. The dealers are doing as much or more on their own to keep used car prices absurdly high, but they can not stop private sales.

I guess the Media is what controlled my generation. I look at reruns now and can not image why we thought any of the mainstream stuff was relevant. On the other hand, modern mainstream stuff can not hold any adjenda, they have to get ratings. Network T.V. has shows where the young heros/heroines openly talk about how anal sex on the first date is good way to keep the guy interested. These shows are also usually built around partner swapping in every other episode. wtf

I think my core observation is we are heading to Mike Judge's Idiocracy. My problem is, I don't see the reason not to considering how TPTB treated the few people who actually tried to stem the tide. All the bad actors are getting bailed out, and the responsible people will be the ones destroyed by a total collapse in the economy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31714305


Or maybe this will be the time the people wake up and actually make the world a better place.
Keneh
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01/08/2013 11:11 AM
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Re: If the economy collapses who is going to benefit?
A lot of the US debt is held by China and Japan as well as wealthy people around the world. Think of your favorite gangster loan shark getting nervous because you're a couple hours late on a payment. He's reaching for the phone to send his goons over to your house. Not a good situation. How patient would China be if the US either couldn't print unlisted money anymore. Or that money became worthless?
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01/08/2013 11:19 AM
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Re: If the economy collapses who is going to benefit?
A lot of the US debt is held by China and Japan as well as wealthy people around the world. Think of your favorite gangster loan shark getting nervous because you're a couple hours late on a payment. He's reaching for the phone to send his goons over to your house. Not a good situation. How patient would China be if the US either couldn't print unlisted money anymore. Or that money became worthless?
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China only holds about 8% of the debt. i'm not worried about them either
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01/08/2013 11:24 AM
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Re: If the economy collapses who is going to benefit?
Money isn't Wealth

the collapse of the economy is an orchestrated method of consolidating 'Real Wealth' into the hands of those who designed and control these economies
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01/08/2013 11:39 AM
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I have been thinking long and hard about this. So please let me try out a theory.

The "wealthy" are actually pissed at everyone in first world countries, because ... most people no longer aspire to be like them or have their accouterments.

Would you rather spend 2 hours in a "luxury" box watching a yaught race, formula 1, nascar, or a football game? Or would you cruise the 'net with that time? GLP, youtube, pictures of funny cats?

Do you, or enough people you know really think 5,000 sq ft. homes with granite counter-tops is impressive? Do you think being like Charles Barkley and playing $2000/hand blackjack games is an adrenaline rush?

It is trivially easy to get promiscuous sex, porn, alcohol, drugs. The social safety-net allows you all of these things and having children too!

A $30 MP3 player can rival the sound quality and quantity that rich people spent $100,000+ on sound systems and media as recently as 30 years ago.

You have the sum total of human knowledge available at your fingertips via the internet. The most elite universities in the world put their lectures and coursework online. For free.

Sure, us oldsters bought it hook line and sinker. we are in debt, we still respond to corporate advert campaigns. We will never escape, but the younger generations are a problem. The elite are not going to be able to pass down the hierarchy to their children.

Anyone who has studied management theory know that you have to be able to incentivize people with perks to make them work harder. They are running out of dog treats to keep us on a light leash, so they are starting to put the boots on our necks. You have to truly smash the economy and create lots of ridiculous infighting among the plebs to get them back on the only incentive system they know how to run. And they have to be in control. It destroys their soul when they are not in control of the masses.
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I have to say, this is a plausible theory, may I even say reality. What more do the people really need? Nothing, so much so that they are buying things they don't really need, but do so because they are brainwashed to think they do by media.

The rich buy the stocks in these idle and useless things and watch as the masses put themselves into so much debt that they will, as you have stated, 'need' 'them again.

The American Dream was real and accomplished, but too well that they need to destroy it.
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01/08/2013 10:16 PM
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