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The turning point of the largest brainwashing experiment in American history.

 
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Here comes the tsunami! Idol1

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"Former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and her husband launched an initiative aimed at curbing gun violence on Tuesday, the second anniversary of the Tucson shooting that killed six people and left her critically injured.

Giffords and Mark Kelly wrote in an op-ed published in USA Today that their Americans for Responsible Solutions initiative would help raise money to support greater gun control efforts.

"Achieving reforms to reduce gun violence and prevent mass shootings will mean matching gun lobbyists in their reach and resources," they wrote in the column.

They said that it will "raise funds necessary to balance the influence of the gun lobby."

The move was hinted in Kelly's recent comments that he and Giffords want to become a prominent voice for gun control efforts.

The couple last week visited Newtown, Conn., where a gunman opened fire in an elementary school, killing 20 children and six adults in December. They also met with New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a gun control advocate."
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Brain Wash Alert: If this A guy represents you, YOU are on the wrong side.
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"He perfectly exemplifies the problem," Morgan would later say of Jones.

If you continued watching Morgan it kept getting scarier... They even had a Kennedy on there to defend Morgan and flashed a graphic of JFK. All part of the brainwashing.
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Op, beautifully said. You have a wonderful handle on what is going on.

This morning, the first thing I saw was two threads on racism. It seems to be the topic of the day, perhaps because they feel the gun control issue has been sewn up.

We have got to start thinking smarter. We have got to stop being ruled by our emotions. ** is a perfect of example of what happens when we do that.

Day after day, I see hired people promoting dissension, division, hate, despair, fear, and negative emotions on this forum. This is purposeful; they know what emotional human beings we are, and how easily we are diverted from the real issues.

Example: Recent threads on Social Security. OP starts out whining how he has to pay for the older generation and will never see it himself; how the older generation lived in the most prosperous times and are responsible for the mess we are in now, and how the older generation should just do without SS, and if they can't find a place to live, so be it.

Pretty soon, everyone is arguing about prosperous and nonprosperous times, callous children, the generation gap, pointing blame on the old people, comparing SS to welfare, etc. NO ONE is even mentioning the fact that once more, our government stole money from the people and their employers, no one is mentioning the fact that they are fiscally incompetent and don't even try to keep within the budget. There is ore, but the point is:

We are easily led and manipulated because we fall into their games almost every time!

So when you are in a thread like that, and see what is happening, call it. I see that today there are many paid shills already doing their dirty work...so be watchful. Don't feed them, keep your energy, and think before you speak.
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Op, beautifully said. You have a wonderful handle on what is going on.

This morning, the first thing I saw was two threads on racism. It seems to be the topic of the day, perhaps because they feel the gun control issue has been sewn up.

We have got to start thinking smarter. We have got to stop being ruled by our emotions. ** is a perfect of example of what happens when we do that.

Day after day, I see hired people promoting dissension, division, hate, despair, fear, and negative emotions on this forum. This is purposeful; they know what emotional human beings we are, and how easily we are diverted from the real issues.

Example: Recent threads on Social Security. OP starts out whining how he has to pay for the older generation and will never see it himself; how the older generation lived in the most prosperous times and are responsible for the mess we are in now, and how the older generation should just do without SS, and if they can't find a place to live, so be it.

Pretty soon, everyone is arguing about prosperous and nonprosperous times, callous children, the generation gap, pointing blame on the old people, comparing SS to welfare, etc. NO ONE is even mentioning the fact that once more, our government stole money from the people and their employers, no one is mentioning the fact that they are fiscally incompetent and don't even try to keep within the budget. There is ore, but the point is:

We are easily led and manipulated because we fall into their games almost every time!

So when you are in a thread like that, and see what is happening, call it. I see that today there are many paid shills already doing their dirty work...so be watchful. Don't feed them, keep your energy, and think before you speak.
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Thank you!

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Yeah, no one even noticed the brilliant article in Rolling Stone this week which will do a hell of a lot more than what Alex did last night for waking up the sheeple.

[link to www.rollingstone.com]

"To listen to the bankers and their allies in Washington tell it, you'd think the bailout was the best thing to hit the American economy since the invention of the assembly line. Not only did it prevent another Great Depression, we've been told, but the money has all been paid back, and the government even made a profit. No harm, no foul – right?

Wrong.

It was all a lie – one of the biggest and most elaborate falsehoods ever sold to the American people."
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Yeah, no one even noticed the brilliant article in Rolling Stone this week which will do a hell of a lot more than what Alex did last night for waking up the sheeple.

[link to www.rollingstone.com]

"To listen to the bankers and their allies in Washington tell it, you'd think the bailout was the best thing to hit the American economy since the invention of the assembly line. Not only did it prevent another Great Depression, we've been told, but the money has all been paid back, and the government even made a profit. No harm, no foul – right?

Wrong.

It was all a lie – one of the biggest and most elaborate falsehoods ever sold to the American people."
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Yes, we have fallen victim to the art of doublespeak.
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The only reason he threw in 9/11 was because the average American sheeple have a couple people like us in their families who have had similar heated conversations over the years. It's a brainwashing tactic. They know this because they know us and everything we say or do is archived and eventually examined. Of course he won 9/11.

We always win 9/11...1rof1 It's not very hard. 1dunno1

Be honest... How many of you win your gun debates lately? Not win in your mind... but actually convincingly win the argument and change someone's mind.

I found it impossible without printed documents, memorized statistics and an hour or so to calmly deprogram.

The exact opposite of ** tonight.

To be honest with you... Whenever I've acted like ** did tonight, I've lost the debate... and you know what? My last ditch attempt is usually 9/11, no matter what the original topic was. Be honest with yourselves. Drop the ego.

Obama planned this. He was watching, it was a BIG DEAL. The White House finally responded to the petition to deport Morgan after they took ** off the air. Videos of the exchange will go viral on Facebook(by both sides) because it 'proves how dangerous, wrong and mentally disturbed we are' no matter how confident and right we are, I promise you.

The lines have been clearly drawn. In the general public's mind... If you are one of ** millions of supporters who think he won this debate, you are now dangerous like Lanza, Holmes, Loughner, etc.. The connection in the sheeple thought pattern has been made.

The scary part is that I generally agree with everything ** says but he is either a fucking idiot or a fucking bug because he failed us miserably tonight with his presentation.

This is the turning point of the largest brainwashing experiment in American History.hiding

He was totally unprepared. The only thing he was prepared for was his crazy lunatic speech about 1776(in the first minute) and then eventually 9/11.

I don't know about the rest of you... but I find it very difficult talking to the biggest sheeple friends/family about our police state. I've had family tell me calmly...

'if you are going to act like a terrorist, you deserve to be treated one'

... in defense of indefinite detainment of American citizens without trial... wtf

WTC7 is the most convincing evidence currently available and it can be provided to sheeple in a matter of minutes. Same thing with BBC's announcement 20 minutes early. The sheeple can't explain it.

dancedancedancedance

TPTB AND ** meant for ** to come across as a crazed conspiracy lunatic with no evidence to back up any of his claims until he suddenly nails 9/11 with a solid line about the military industrial complex because that is how most of us sound to our family members and friends who are the most brainwashed. (Like the people who watch CNN every day because it's their best source for news...)

It has begun...
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I said the same thing on the other thread. I have never really like Piers guest. Always thought there was something not quit right about him and he has made a huge successful financial endeavor from his efforts. For a man that runs such a successful enterprise you would think he was capable of more polished, lucid behavior.

The U.S. will not get the guns from the American public and not because they know what is really going on and why they truly need them because most do not. Most gun owners where I live in SW VA know nothing of 911 or any of the fascist activities of our government, nor do they appear to care. But they love there guns and it will take a civil war to extract them from their "cold dead hands" to quote Charleston Heston.

It is really a shame most don't grasps what is really transpiring in this country and go into total denial about 911. They just like guns.
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It's the best kind of disinformation you could want, give 98% truth then throw in Queen Elizabeth & Bush are shape shifting aliens. It's the same pattern, when those in the know wonder why shows like the X-Files and this mostly truthfull blowhard are allowed media time. The confrontation with the TSA was probably scripted too, then I wonder if they drugged his food & drink at the studio?
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I would hope he had enough sense not to eat or drink anything they provided.

He did give voice to the very real genocidal events that have taken place all over the world after gun confiscation. It's hard to ignore nearly 200,000,000 dead from their own governments in the not too distant past.

Anybody who says this government would never do that is not paying attention or is a victim of an all too prevalent 'normalcy bias', wherein a person is simply unable to conceive that their comfortable world could fall apart. Or they are hoping that it will happen.
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It's the best kind of disinformation you could want, give 98% truth then throw in Queen Elizabeth & Bush are shape shifting aliens. It's the same pattern, when those in the know wonder why shows like the X-Files and this mostly truthfull blowhard are allowed media time. The confrontation with the TSA was probably scripted too, then I wonder if they drugged his food & drink at the studio?
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I would hope he had enough sense not to eat or drink anything they provided.

He did give voice to the very real genocidal events that have taken place all over the world after gun confiscation. It's hard to ignore nearly 200,000,000 dead from their own governments in the not too distant past.

Anybody who says this government would never do that is not paying attention or is a victim of an all too prevalent 'normalcy bias', wherein a person is simply unable to conceive that their comfortable world could fall apart. Or they are hoping that it will happen.
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Agreed!
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So why do you think ** did that? Failed so miserably on the show? Lost control of his emotions? Appeared unprepared? Sabotaged himself and the cause?

Was this all part of the plan?
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So why do you think ** did that? Failed so miserably on the show? Lost control of his emotions? Appeared unprepared? Sabotaged himself and the cause?

Was this all part of the plan?
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No doubt in my mind.
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So why do you think ** did that? Failed so miserably on the show? Lost control of his emotions? Appeared unprepared? Sabotaged himself and the cause?

Was this all part of the plan?
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I wrote the post about the "shape shifting aliens" & actually I subscribe to the ancient aliens theory, but once you can mix in a gun control debate with 9/11 or NWO in front of the mainstream you're beaten.

The DHS & FBI types are known to seed resistance movements with provocateurs, this is the COINTELPRO that OP mentioned in their excellent analysis. The DHS screening when they obviously know who he is was the most overt effort to push him over the edge. Like something out of Men in Black they could hit him with some kind of energy beam that pumps his fight or flight responses. There are stranger things in the arsenal, MK-Ultra was looking for drugs that could discredit leaders with meltdowns, while the actual NWO would love a revolution by Americans so they could activate the FEMA camps.

Our side can brag about how many weapons civilians have but the whole infrastructure of the country is owned by them & they have technology on the order of Terminators. Whether someone on GLP brags take my gun from my dead hands or fails to follow the new registration rules they pretty much have us by the balls--you are a dot in their GPS maps.

My point isn't to be a shill defeatist but just say wake up that your guns are like firecrackers against what they have, and they are pushing for this confrontation just like they baited Al with 9/11. There is no simple answer, while people in remote areas & small towns have the best chances, it is usually better to retreat from a greater enemy & live to fight another day. How it eventually plays out will likely be between a religious scenario & science fiction.
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I really don't think gun control is the real issue. If they wanted to do us in all they would have to do is use nanosized chemicals in the chemtrails and they would take care of it.

I believe they are just distracting us from the real problem which is a cataclysmic climate event that has been on going for years but is about to reach critical mass in the next few years. Coastlines will be ravaged, mass starvation and societal collapse will occur. This is what they are hiding in plain sight.
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So why do you think ** did that? Failed so miserably on the show? Lost control of his emotions? Appeared unprepared? Sabotaged himself and the cause?

Was this all part of the plan?
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I wrote the post about the "shape shifting aliens" & actually I subscribe to the ancient aliens theory, but once you can mix in a gun control debate with 9/11 or NWO in front of the mainstream you're beaten.

The DHS & FBI types are known to seed resistance movements with provocateurs, this is the COINTELPRO that OP mentioned in their excellent analysis. The DHS screening when they obviously know who he is was the most overt effort to push him over the edge. Like something out of Men in Black they could hit him with some kind of energy beam that pumps his fight or flight responses. There are stranger things in the arsenal, MK-Ultra was looking for drugs that could discredit leaders with meltdowns, while the actual NWO would love a revolution by Americans so they could activate the FEMA camps.

Our side can brag about how many weapons civilians have but the whole infrastructure of the country is owned by them & they have technology on the order of Terminators. Whether someone on GLP brags take my gun from my dead hands or fails to follow the new registration rules they pretty much have us by the balls--you are a dot in their GPS maps.

My point isn't to be a shill defeatist but just say wake up that your guns are like firecrackers against what they have, and they are pushing for this confrontation just like they baited Al with 9/11. There is no simple answer, while people in remote areas & small towns have the best chances, it is usually better to retreat from a greater enemy & live to fight another day. How it eventually plays out will likely be between a religious scenario & science fiction.
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Excellent post!

hf
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I really don't think gun control is the real issue. If they wanted to do us in all they would have to do is use nanosized chemicals in the chemtrails and they would take care of it.

I believe they are just distracting us from the real problem which is a cataclysmic climate event that has been on going for years but is about to reach critical mass in the next few years. Coastlines will be ravaged, mass starvation and societal collapse will occur. This is what they are hiding in plain sight.
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I agree.

This is very, very likely.
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All any of you need to know is spelled out in the Twilight Zone episode . . . but most of you won't take the time to watch it - the handful who have are so obtuse they didn't even understand the story.

Get a clue people, you're being played and you are playing into their hands.
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Which episode of the Twilight Zone are you referring to? I'd like to check it out
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We ought to stick to the episode we are in.
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Lmao!
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I really don't think gun control is the real issue. If they wanted to do us in all they would have to do is use nanosized chemicals in the chemtrails and they would take care of it.

I believe they are just distracting us from the real problem which is a cataclysmic climate event that has been on going for years but is about to reach critical mass in the next few years. Coastlines will be ravaged, mass starvation and societal collapse will occur. This is what they are hiding in plain sight.
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I agree.

This is very, very likely.
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My gut feeling too...seems there Are so many distractions, one right after the other...
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I really don't think gun control is the real issue. If they wanted to do us in all they would have to do is use nanosized chemicals in the chemtrails and they would take care of it.

I believe they are just distracting us from the real problem which is a cataclysmic climate event that has been on going for years but is about to reach critical mass in the next few years. Coastlines will be ravaged, mass starvation and societal collapse will occur. This is what they are hiding in plain sight.
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I agree.

This is very, very likely.
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My gut feeling too...seems there Are so many distractions, one right after the other...
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It's because our time has arrived.

Get ready for lots of lots of deja vu. abduct
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Read and considered what you have said for a few hours now, OP. Here is my response. You can like or dislike Alex. I don't care. But Alex is not an actor doing a gig for someone else. He is what he is. Now, I'm not saying he doesn't maybe fall into "their" plans to some extent, but he is not playing for their side. So, you can just forget that.
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All any of you need to know is spelled out in the Twilight Zone episode . . . but most of you won't take the time to watch it - the handful who have are so obtuse they didn't even understand the story.

Get a clue people, you're being played and you are playing into their hands.
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Which episode of the Twilight Zone are you referring to? I'd like to check it out
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Monster On Maple Street? I'm asking too.
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This is my thread:

Thread: Gun fanatics: Rod Serling and the people on Maple Street have a message for you . . .

In the original, which you can find on Myspace, the aliens were gauging the humans' reactions. In the remake, it's the gov.

This story is an astounding parallel to what is happening right now . . . playing out minute by minute.

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The script...the words are very meaniful

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If AL had to be aggressive to dominate the message and draw attention because RP's style did not work...

I'm sorry... You've got it all backwards...

If the MSM now decides to demonize AL after last night while labeling him as our 'internet cult leader' and 'the problem in america', suddenly everyone who has been on his show can be instantly discredited by every sheeple.

that includes 9/11 truth.

Idol1

AL fucked up bad.
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Read and considered what you have said for a few hours now, OP. Here is my response. You can like or dislike Alex. I don't care. But Alex is not an actor doing a gig for someone else. He is what he is. Now, I'm not saying he doesn't maybe fall into "their" plans to some extent, but he is not playing for their side. So, you can just forget that.
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Point taken.

Another possible explanation could be that he is a “targeted individual” as Jesse put it before his show was cancelled. I find this scenario just as likely but we've all gotta realize the outcome is the exact same.

Whatever the truth of Alex's motives... He is playing right into TPTB hands and broadcasting 'below average intelligence and even mental illness' for all alternative media.

His performance last night was like going all in pre-flop in hold em poker with 9/4 off-suit... It lets smart players know that you suck. rant
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Read and considered what you have said for a few hours now, OP. Here is my response. You can like or dislike Alex. I don't care. But Alex is not an actor doing a gig for someone else. He is what he is. Now, I'm not saying he doesn't maybe fall into "their" plans to some extent, but he is not playing for their side. So, you can just forget that.
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Point taken.

Another possible explanation could be that he is a “targeted individual” as Jesse put it before his show was cancelled. I find this scenario just as likely but we've all gotta realize the outcome is the exact same.

Whatever the truth of Alex's motives... He is playing right into TPTB hands and broadcasting 'below average intelligence and even mental illness' for all alternative media.

His performance last night was like going all in pre-flop in hold em poker with 9/4 off-suit... It lets smart players know that you suck. rant
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I think he went all in on the river with the board showing 9 9 4 rags.
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If I was Alex I would have memorized these lines and explained calmly...

"Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries."

"In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677. The U.S. has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100,000 residents."

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banana2

"Switzerland has a gun homicide rate of 0.5 per 100,000 and the UK has a murder rate of 1.49 per 100,000. They also boast the highest violent crime rate in Europe at 2.0 per 100,000."


See how easy it could have been? hf
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As 2Son reminded me in another thread...

William Cooper is dead.

Alex is not.

Alex is on CNN and acting like a WWF Wrestler and being praised for it by his supporters.

hidinghidinghiding
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So why do you think ** did that? Failed so miserably on the show? Lost control of his emotions? Appeared unprepared? Sabotaged himself and the cause?

Was this all part of the plan?
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It was in the script - anti-guns actor plays the part of the cool, balanced person, pro-guns actor plays the part of the dangerous, crazy person. Same characterisation they've been pushing for most of the campaign.
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So why do you think ** did that? Failed so miserably on the show? Lost control of his emotions? Appeared unprepared? Sabotaged himself and the cause?

Was this all part of the plan?
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It was in the script - anti-guns actor plays the part of the cool, balanced person, pro-guns actor plays the part of the dangerous, crazy person. Same characterisation they've been pushing for most of the campaign.
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It makes so much sense. hf

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