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Government adviser in fight to 'save Earth' against devastating solar storms expected to knock out National Grid in 2013
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Watch it fade away as it turns the limb just like all the rest have, either that or it just won't pop off till it crosses the disc and turns the corner!
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well, in my opinion It takes 1 week to make a rotation, and sunspots usually break down every two weeks... so I think your kinda wrong.
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Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

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Watch it fade away as it turns the limb just like all the rest have, either that or it just won't pop off till it crosses the disc and turns the corner!
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yup..protected..again!

yoda
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well, in my opinion It takes 1 week to make a rotation, and sunspots usually break down every two weeks... so I think your kinda wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

"protected"

yoda
 Quoting: Madmacs


ok...

This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz...
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^^ WE shall see my friend ^^ we shall see...
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yoda
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well, in my opinion It takes 1 week to make a rotation, and sunspots usually break down every two weeks... so I think your kinda wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

"protected"

yoda
 Quoting: Madmacs


ok...

This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz..
.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


I agree with your last statement 100%, however I would like to know what data/links you base the rest of your theory on. We''ve been trying to figure this out for months, and this is the first time I''ve heard this line of thinking, especially in regard to the CH correlation.
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Awesome link!! Thx! It says to watch the next few days what that big sun spot will appear in front of sun -we can see it better:

"Denoted by an arrow, the unnumbered region is crackling with C-class solar flares and, based on its size, could be capable of even stronger eruptions. We will know more in the days ahead as the sunspot turns toward Earth; a more direct view will reveal what kind of magnetic field the sunspot posseses. "

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yoda
 Quoting: Madmacs


well, in my opinion It takes 1 week to make a rotation, and sunspots usually break down every two weeks... so I think your kinda wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

"protected"

yoda
 Quoting: Madmacs


ok...

This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


I don't think the prevailing theory around here is that the earth facing decay of late is caused by humans, though I do think it is plausible based on tesla technology and tethered satellites (plausible, not probable.)

I think most around here, including myself, wonder if there is something affecting the sun from OUTSIDE our solar system.
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yup..protected..again!

yoda
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well, in my opinion It takes 1 week to make a rotation, and sunspots usually break down every two weeks... so I think your kinda wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

"protected"

yoda
 Quoting: Madmacs


ok...

This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Ac 420 to save the day!!!

But really, youre likeing this to a phenomena such as ones climax, where a month of pent up energy is all released in one creamy moment of relief. Are you saying, we may see the cream?
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well, in my opinion It takes 1 week to make a rotation, and sunspots usually break down every two weeks... so I think your kinda wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

"protected"

yoda
 Quoting: Madmacs


ok...

This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


I don't think the prevailing theory around here is that the earth facing decay of late is caused by humans, though I do think it is plausible based on tesla technology and tethered satellites (plausible, not probable.)

I think most around here, including myself, wonder if there is something affecting the sun from OUTSIDE our solar system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25323670


It is very possible that exotic matter in space excites the sun and influences its behavior. We are technically entering an energy cloud (debatable), which could even be a candidate for this line of thinking...

I doubt even tesla technology would interact with the sun in any way. the most charged ionic signal that earth could produce 'planetary wide' mind you, would be equivalent to throwing a match in a fire (in attempts to putting the fire out).

The sun in terms of size to our planet is colossal.
even if our planet suddenly took a collision course towards it we would be nothing more than dust weeks if not months before an impact would take place on its surface...

We are just that small in relative terms...
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well, in my opinion It takes 1 week to make a rotation, and sunspots usually break down every two weeks... so I think your kinda wrong.
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Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

"protected"

yoda
 Quoting: Madmacs


ok...

This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Ac 420 to save the day!!!

But really, youre likeing this to a phenomena such as ones climax, where a month of pent up energy is all released in one creamy moment of relief. Are you saying, we may see the cream?
 Quoting: Igot2seeit 11344875


Technically I am only stating that energy is transferred and used. and re used. Which is known in physics.

The suns processes are alot like earths oceans, and sunspots interact much like the earths oceanic belt.
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Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

"protected"

yoda
 Quoting: Madmacs


ok...

This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


I don't think the prevailing theory around here is that the earth facing decay of late is caused by humans, though I do think it is plausible based on tesla technology and tethered satellites (plausible, not probable.)

I think most around here, including myself, wonder if there is something affecting the sun from OUTSIDE our solar system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25323670


It is very possible that exotic matter in space excites the sun and influences its behavior. We are technically entering an energy cloud (debatable), which could even be a candidate for this line of thinking...

I doubt even tesla technology would interact with the sun in any way. the most charged ionic signal that earth could produce 'planetary wide' mind you, would be equivalent to throwing a match in a fire (in attempts to putting the fire out).

The sun in terms of size to our planet is colossal.
even if our planet suddenly took a collision course towards it we would be nothing more than dust weeks if not months before an impact would take place on its surface...

We are just that small in relative terms...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Yeah, that makes sense, but what if you had an entire network of tethered satellites on the backside of the sun using the sun's own energy as a charge and causing the sun to flare on the backside? Again, not saying it's probable, but we do have the technology...
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Holy Crap! (Got this from another thread)

[link to spaceweather.inf.brad.ac.uk]

58% chance of X Flares....
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Have you guys seen the SOHO image of this thing?
[link to helioviewer.org]

HELLO!

It's like you're looking into the Sun's soul...

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It will be some nice spots to look at...
But that's it..me thinks
time...
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well, in my opinion It takes 1 week to make a rotation, and sunspots usually break down every two weeks... so I think your kinda wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

"protected"

yoda
 Quoting: Madmacs


ok...

This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz..
.
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I agree with your last statement 100%, however I would like to know what data/links you base the rest of your theory on. We''ve been trying to figure this out for months, and this is the first time I''ve heard this line of thinking, especially in regard to the CH correlation.
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The smaller the amount of coronal holes present on the suns surface equates to the smaller amount of heat and decay releases by the sun. Leading to conditions that are favorable of sunspot growth. (i.e.Points of access for hotter areas of the sun to magnetically charge and excape the suns surface). Corona holes are areas on the corona (the outer surface of the the sun or star) thats have a colder, less dense area than its surrounding. During solar minimums they are mostly in the polar regoins but during the solar maximums they can be found most everywhere on the corona.

meanwhile Sunspots are caused by intense magnetic activity which inhibits the normal convection of the sun's radiation on the photosphere... The intense magnetic fields would sometimes form coronal loops where parts of the corona is spewed millions of miles away from the surface and gravity pulls it back down into the sun. When the loop is completely thrown away that it escapes the sun's gravity, it is called a Corona Mass Ejection or CME.

So when the sunspots decay their magnetic properties are swept back into the corona. coronal holes and solar beltways in turn create avenues of release, stirring up the old matter and creating new sunspots.

google
sunspot formation
sunspot decay
coronal holes
relationship between coronal holes and sunspots
solar minimum
solar maximum...

The subject is pretty broad, so linking wouldn't really outline the entire process...
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Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

"protected"

yoda
 Quoting: Madmacs


ok...

This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


I don't think the prevailing theory around here is that the earth facing decay of late is caused by humans, though I do think it is plausible based on tesla technology and tethered satellites (plausible, not probable.)

I think most around here, including myself, wonder if there is something affecting the sun from OUTSIDE our solar system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25323670


It is very possible that exotic matter in space excites the sun and influences its behavior. We are technically entering an energy cloud (debatable), which could even be a candidate for this line of thinking...

I doubt even tesla technology would interact with the sun in any way. the most charged ionic signal that earth could produce 'planetary wide' mind you, would be equivalent to throwing a match in a fire (in attempts to putting the fire out).

The sun in terms of size to our planet is colossal.
even if our planet suddenly took a collision course towards it we would be nothing more than dust weeks if not months before an impact would take place on its surface...

We are just that small in relative terms...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Thats pretty big. So big it makes you realize that "big one" weve been waiting for, my not have to be that big, as our "big" doesnt match with the suns "big". Rare? Whats rare to something that lasts millions of years..
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ok...

This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


I don't think the prevailing theory around here is that the earth facing decay of late is caused by humans, though I do think it is plausible based on tesla technology and tethered satellites (plausible, not probable.)

I think most around here, including myself, wonder if there is something affecting the sun from OUTSIDE our solar system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25323670


It is very possible that exotic matter in space excites the sun and influences its behavior. We are technically entering an energy cloud (debatable), which could even be a candidate for this line of thinking...

I doubt even tesla technology would interact with the sun in any way. the most charged ionic signal that earth could produce 'planetary wide' mind you, would be equivalent to throwing a match in a fire (in attempts to putting the fire out).

The sun in terms of size to our planet is colossal.
even if our planet suddenly took a collision course towards it we would be nothing more than dust weeks if not months before an impact would take place on its surface...

We are just that small in relative terms...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Yeah, that makes sense, but what if you had an entire network of tethered satellites on the backside of the sun using the sun's own energy as a charge and causing the sun to flare on the backside? Again, not saying it's probable, but we do have the technology...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25323670


for the sake of an hour long conversation. We may have ideas for the technology but we are centuries away from even putting such a task into motion...

We will be lucky enough to see a man on mars this decade...
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Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

"protected"

yoda
 Quoting: Madmacs


ok...

This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz..
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I agree with your last statement 100%, however I would like to know what data/links you base the rest of your theory on. We''ve been trying to figure this out for months, and this is the first time I''ve heard this line of thinking, especially in regard to the CH correlation.
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The smaller the amount of coronal holes present on the suns surface equates to the smaller amount of heat and decay releases by the sun. Leading to conditions that are favorable of sunspot growth. (i.e.Points of access for hotter areas of the sun to magnetically charge and excape the suns surface). Corona holes are areas on the corona (the outer surface of the the sun or star) thats have a colder, less dense area than its surrounding. During solar minimums they are mostly in the polar regoins but during the solar maximums they can be found most everywhere on the corona.

meanwhile Sunspots are caused by intense magnetic activity which inhibits the normal convection of the sun's radiation on the photosphere... The intense magnetic fields would sometimes form coronal loops where parts of the corona is spewed millions of miles away from the surface and gravity pulls it back down into the sun. When the loop is completely thrown away that it escapes the sun's gravity, it is called a Corona Mass Ejection or CME.

So when the sunspots decay their magnetic properties are swept back into the corona. coronal holes and solar beltways in turn create avenues of release, stirring up the old matter and creating new sunspots.

google
sunspot formation
sunspot decay
coronal holes
relationship between coronal holes and sunspots
solar minimum
solar maximum...

The subject is pretty broad, so linking wouldn't really outline the entire process...
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Actually a sunspot is created by magnetic fields forcing their way to the surface of the sun where it is much cooler. Yes CHs are cooler areas of the sun, but not necessary to create or effect sunspots or their magnetic configurations. Solar 101.

Great well thought out theory, but I'm not seeing the evidence to support it. hf
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ok...

This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz..
.
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I agree with your last statement 100%, however I would like to know what data/links you base the rest of your theory on. We''ve been trying to figure this out for months, and this is the first time I''ve heard this line of thinking, especially in regard to the CH correlation.
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The smaller the amount of coronal holes present on the suns surface equates to the smaller amount of heat and decay releases by the sun. Leading to conditions that are favorable of sunspot growth. (i.e.Points of access for hotter areas of the sun to magnetically charge and excape the suns surface). Corona holes are areas on the corona (the outer surface of the the sun or star) thats have a colder, less dense area than its surrounding. During solar minimums they are mostly in the polar regoins but during the solar maximums they can be found most everywhere on the corona.

meanwhile Sunspots are caused by intense magnetic activity which inhibits the normal convection of the sun's radiation on the photosphere... The intense magnetic fields would sometimes form coronal loops where parts of the corona is spewed millions of miles away from the surface and gravity pulls it back down into the sun. When the loop is completely thrown away that it escapes the sun's gravity, it is called a Corona Mass Ejection or CME.

So when the sunspots decay their magnetic properties are swept back into the corona. coronal holes and solar beltways in turn create avenues of release, stirring up the old matter and creating new sunspots.

google
sunspot formation
sunspot decay
coronal holes
relationship between coronal holes and sunspots
solar minimum
solar maximum...

The subject is pretty broad, so linking wouldn't really outline the entire process...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Actually a sunspot is created by magnetic fields forcing their way to the surface where it is much cooler. Yes CHs are cooler areas of the sun, but not necessary to create or effect sunspots or their magnetic configurations. Solar 101.
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Think when your making a ball of clay...

you roll it around... but eventually you notice a crease where you meshed the clay together... (one side to the other)

So you attempt to pull the clay over the crease...to fix the ball. But eventually by pulling at the sides you accidentally tear a small hole on the opposing side...

the crease is a coronal hole. The new tear is a sunspot... the tear was not created because your force. but because under the surface there was matter which protruded the surface under the force... which in sunspot terms is sub surface magnetically charged matter.
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I don't think the prevailing theory around here is that the earth facing decay of late is caused by humans, though I do think it is plausible based on tesla technology and tethered satellites (plausible, not probable.)

I think most around here, including myself, wonder if there is something affecting the sun from OUTSIDE our solar system.
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It is very possible that exotic matter in space excites the sun and influences its behavior. We are technically entering an energy cloud (debatable), which could even be a candidate for this line of thinking...

I doubt even tesla technology would interact with the sun in any way. the most charged ionic signal that earth could produce 'planetary wide' mind you, would be equivalent to throwing a match in a fire (in attempts to putting the fire out).

The sun in terms of size to our planet is colossal.
even if our planet suddenly took a collision course towards it we would be nothing more than dust weeks if not months before an impact would take place on its surface...

We are just that small in relative terms...
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Yeah, that makes sense, but what if you had an entire network of tethered satellites on the backside of the sun using the sun's own energy as a charge and causing the sun to flare on the backside? Again, not saying it's probable, but we do have the technology...
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for the sake of an hour long conversation. We may have ideas for the technology but we are centuries away from even putting such a task into motion...

We will be lucky enough to see a man on mars this decade...
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Tesla tethered satellites are not an idea, they already exist, and it would not be difficult to deploy a couple dozen on the other side of the sun.

One thing that is hard to argue though is why would they want to!?
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Wow, thanks OP.

Here is a better, closer-up view:


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That is HUGE!
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damned

hidinghidinghiding
Just one any....

The first symptom of stupidity is to think that we already know everything...

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biden...thats a sun.tardass too much of an ass
he proved he belongs with obomanation
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The surprisingly complex ways that solar activity can make itself felt on our planet

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Have you guys seen the SOHO image of this thing?
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HELLO!

It's like you're looking into the Sun's soul...
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yup..protected..again!

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well, in my opinion It takes 1 week to make a rotation, and sunspots usually break down every two weeks... so I think your kinda wrong.
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Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

"protected"

yoda
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ok...


This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz...
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well no one is saying we here on earth are doing it but....
yes there has been a earth facing decay happening....don't know why, but it is happening and has been for months.

watch this link everyday and you WILL see it happen.
everything in between the 2 red lines goes down...some will get active after they pass the 2nd red line.
this is fact.
WHY? don't know.

[link to www.solarham.net]

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well, in my opinion It takes 1 week to make a rotation, and sunspots usually break down every two weeks... so I think your kinda wrong.
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Earth Facing Decay...

been happening for quite a while now..

"protected"

yoda
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ok...


This is pissing me off so I am chiming in...

Theres no "earth facing decay" Or special gov program to halt solar emissions...

We could send every water molecule on earth to the sun and it would evaporate before it even came anywhere near the solar surface...

The last two weeks of magnetic filaments were weak due to the minimal amount of coronal holes being present on the solar surface... So the sunspots all got swept back into the suns corona and the collection of magnetic forces created the new sunspots that we see today.

Its like dust in a wave of water only the dust is radio magnetic. If small waves are produced the dust isnt being transferred to the surface as much so it collects at the bottom, But once larger waves are produced the dust clumps together and intrudes back to the surface.

The waves are produced by coronal holes fyi.

So that being said... These current sunspots are a collection of the past months failed magnetic interactions.

They have reformed due to coronal activity "just recently" which means that they are more likely than not, to be continually active in the next several days.

So this region which is currently "minimally stable"; Will be passing our plant in a manner of days, and will likely be just as active or more active at that time.

Theres no decay beams or processes that any person place or thing could put into motion, on our entire planet that would interfere with this galactic waltz...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420

well no one is saying we here on earth are doing it but....
yes there has been a earth facing decay happening....don't know why, but it is happening and has been for months.

watch this link everyday and you WILL see it happen.
everything in between the 2 red lines goes down...some will get active after they pass the 2nd red line.
this is fact.
WHY? don't know.

[link to www.solarham.net]
 Quoting: psyoptics


The sun isn't predictable... We cant assume that any factors are causing this behavior. We can only monitor the live processes taking place to conclude future events.

Which in all reality lead me to conclude that large masses of energy have been bottled up in recent weeks... Larger than normal. So I assume that the regions will become beta gamma before they respectfully decay...

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