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This story continues to have major discrepancies.

according to the msm report found here:
[link to abcnews.go.com]


James Holmes purchased his ticket for the movie 12 days in advance.
He checked into the movie theatre by scanning his cellphone at the theatre kiosk, three times.
There is no video of the actual shooting.
There is surveillance video of Holmes entering the theatre and milling about the concession stand for three minutes before entering theatre 9 wearing dark pants, light colored shirt, and skullcap (knit winter hat)
He called his psychologist, Dr. Fenton just 9 minutes before the shooting began.


Look at the new images of James Holmes in this video!
The court room sketch shows him with natural color hair and a grizzled beard.
The photo shows him with shaved head and a 2-week-old scruffy beard, and eyes bulging out of his head. Why would his eyes bulge like that? That is not normal, and also notice the size of his pupils! A weird smirk is also noticed when you examine his lips and his eyebrows.

I believe James Holmes is massively over-medicated, to the point of him being in a catatonic, walking-comatose state.
It would be very easy for someone to tell him "Make your eyes pop out, just like this...Good!....Now, smile, but keep your lips closed....Watch me, just like this....Yes!...That's right.....Good boy, James" while he is in such a drugged stupor.

After the video was released of the first appearance of James Holmes in court, even the msm had to question his state of competency.

Link to the full 11:25 minute footage of James Holmes in court: [link to www.youtube.com]


The short 1:32 version



It is obvious to even a child that his behavior is not sober...It is blatantly obvious he is drugged into a stupor and does not comprehend where he is, let alone able to answer the judge's questions. Why does his legal counsel not tell the judge that her client does not understand his questions and that he is unfit to have the court continue these proceedings. His legal counsel does not even look him in the eye!


Remember that video? Even the msm talking heads said he appeared to be drugged.
No surprise that the judge immediately clamped down on video inside the court room, and just like that, voila! No more video of an obviously drugged James Holmes in court. No need to answer questions such as:
What pharmaceuticals are James Holmes being given while imprisoned?
What dosage?
What doctor has prescribed these drugs?
For what reason is James Holmes being given these drugs?
Is James Holmes being given these pharmaceuticals against his will?


This Aurora story stunk from the beginning, and it continues to stink. A major ridiculous piece of this story is the notebook James Holmes is purported to have sent his psychologist, filled with ramblings and fantasies of "killing lots of people"....Miraculously found in the mailbin, and had been sitting there for days before the shooting.
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Bump!
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Now that they can do lobotomies with magnets maybe he has had it done? he looks fucked up!
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The thorazine shuffle. Seen it before.
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This man has been lobotomized by the strength and frequency of the pharmaceuticals he has been forced to take while incarcerated!


If his attorney is able to get the insanity plea, then this case will go away, which is what I suspect the federal government wishes....

James Holmes will be locked away in a mental institution for life, and the Aurora event will have a bow on it, the cherry on top.

Meanwhile how can any person with a reasonable, rational, and critical mind have these two aspects coincide:
1. The man was a Ph.D. student on scholarship for neuroscience at one of the top Universities in the country.
2. He is insane and unfit to stand trial.
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This man has been lobotomized by the strength and frequency of the pharmaceuticals he has been forced to take while incarcerated!


If his attorney is able to get the insanity plea, then this case will go away, which is what I suspect the federal government wishes....

James Holmes will be locked away in a mental institution for life, and the Aurora event will have a bow on it, the cherry on top.

Meanwhile how can any person with a reasonable, rational, and critical mind have these two aspects coincide:
1. The man was a Ph.D. student on scholarship for neuroscience at one of the top Universities in the country.
2. He is insane and unfit to stand trial.
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I agree. I don't know if he has any contact with anyone in jail with him but I've been in contact with an inmate there who is trying to get me info.
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THORAZINE TYPE OF DRUGS ARE TO TAKE OUT THE FRONTAL BRAIN WHICH MAKES US HUMAN... THIS PROCEDURE IS DESIGNED BY THE CONTROLLING REPTILES ON THIS PLANET.. and THAT ALSO MEANS THE PSYCHIATRISTS WHO ARE NOT HUMAN and AT THE TOP OF THE REPTILIAN PYRAMID..

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I remember when I first saw the video of Holmes in court. To me, he seemed to be trying very hard to focus, he's in there, or at least part of him was still in there, struggling. Very sad, all around.
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Tell ya what else 'bugs' me about this....remember back when right after this happened, the cops said James was found sitting in his car?

But the other day on the stand, a cop said James was just standing there by his car...they thought he was one of them...

Just not making sense just like the Sandy Hook stuff where that little dead girl is sitting on Ubama's lap in the SAME dress she wore before she died the first time...
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I am unfamiliar with Colorado state law, but would a court order be required in order to forcibly medicate an inmate?

How could someone be forcibly medicated before a judge's ruling on the competency of the accused individual to stand trial?

He appears to be heavily sedated as the result of powerful pharmaceutical drugs....but the judge has not yet ruled him to be "insane." So, where is the court order for James Holmes to forcibly medicated?

Where is his family in all this?

When his father and mother saw the video of their son drugged into oblivion, what the hell was their reaction?


(The most frightening aspect is- They very well could be crying foul and proclaiming his innocence...but the national, corporate, captured main-stream-media would not cover it, if it does not fit the narrative which has been given them.)
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Keep him sedated so he can't defend himself.
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THORAZINE TYPE OF DRUGS ARE TO TAKE OUT THE FRONTAL BRAIN WHICH MAKES US HUMAN... THIS PROCEDURE IS DESIGNED BY THE CONTROLLING REPTILES ON THIS PLANET.. and THAT ALSO MEANS THE PSYCHIATRISTS WHO ARE NOT HUMAN and AT THE TOP OF THE REPTILIAN PYRAMID..

HITLER &* MIND CONTROL CONTINUED>.
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IS that you Alex?
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and who even knows if the guy they have on the pedestal in court for all of us to see is even james holmes... yarrrrG my brain hurts!!!afro
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He is gone. If people can't tell that he is out of this world then I'm speechless...
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drugged into oblivion, a complete farce.


OBVIOUSLY
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He called his psychologist, Dr. Fenton just 9 minutes before the shooting began.
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:Pcolumbo:


Reminds me of this...




"A DEADLY STATE OF MIND"
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He suggests this to Nadia, telling her that he can hypnotise her into believing the story she would give, therefore meaning she'd pass the lie detector. Instead he actually hypnotises her into wanting to go swimming when he gives her a codeword by phone. Later that evening, during a party at his house and with a visiting Columbo in the room, he rings and Nadia jumps from her apartment balcony towards the swimming pool several floors below.
 Quoting: [link to www.planetbods.org]
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He called his psychologist, Dr. Fenton just 9 minutes before the shooting began.
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer




:Pcolumbo:


Reminds me of this...




"A DEADLY STATE OF MIND"
.
.
.

He suggests this to Nadia, telling her that he can hypnotise her into believing the story she would give, therefore meaning she'd pass the lie detector. Instead he actually hypnotises her into wanting to go swimming when he gives her a codeword by phone. Later that evening, during a party at his house and with a visiting Columbo in the room, he rings and Nadia jumps from her apartment balcony towards the swimming pool several floors below.
 Quoting: [link to www.planetbods.org]

 Quoting: Mister Obvious


Yep.
"Imagine no possessions"

"As Above, So Below"

)O(
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This is slightly off topic but if you look at the short version of the video linked on the first page of this thread you will see a bailiff whos is really trying to hold back laughter. Granted, it's probably just a case of the giggles but considering the seriousness of this case it's hard to believe anyone in there could be laughing.

Also, I'm thinking this may have been pointed out before.
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We are getting reports that you can't even make out his face on the video.

News Reporter At James Holmes Hearing Says He Couldn't Clearly Make Out His Face On Security Video

[link to www.youtube.com]
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THORAZINE TYPE OF DRUGS ARE TO TAKE OUT THE FRONTAL BRAIN WHICH MAKES US HUMAN... THIS PROCEDURE IS DESIGNED BY THE CONTROLLING REPTILES ON THIS PLANET.. and THAT ALSO MEANS THE PSYCHIATRISTS WHO ARE NOT HUMAN and AT THE TOP OF THE REPTILIAN PYRAMID..

HITLER &* MIND CONTROL CONTINUED>.
 Quoting: WIOLAWA 3469495


IS that you Alex?
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go fuck youir senile queen british.

and tell your agent provacator to go back to your shitty england.
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The guy who inserted the Sandy Hook map into the Dark Knight movie lived in Newtown and died under mysterious circumstances.

From Jon Rappoport:

The murders at the premiere of the The Dark Night Rises, in Colorado, and the massacre at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, have yet another bizarre connection.

First of all, in the film, The Dark Knight Rises, which premiered last summer in Aurora, where a killer(s) took the lives of 12 theater goers, wounding 58 others, there is a moment at one-hour, fifty-eight minutes. A startling moment in the Batman movie. Commissioner Gordon is talking about thwarting an imminent attack on "Strike Zone One."

At that moment, he points to the only legible words on a map lying on a table in front of him. The words are: SANDY HOOK. The scene of the massacre last month at a Connecticut elementary school. The other recent massacre.

And now, by way of an article at Before It's News, we have a new tie-in. The unlisted author of that article cites a story from a newspaper in Connecticut, The Stamford Advocate. Dated April 7, 2012, it has so far flown under the radar. It reports a death in an automobile accident, on the Merritt Parkway. The victim was Scott Getzinger.

Mr. Getzinger was the property master on The Dark Knight Rises. As such, there is a chance he, in fact, selected that map with the words SANDY HOOK printed on it. The property master is responsible for all props used in a film.

The Stamford Advocate story mentions that Getzinger's injuries were, at first, called non-life threatening by the police. But then he died.

The last fact of the story is stunning, to say the least. Mr. Getzinger was a resident of...Newtown, Connecticut.

As I and others have pointed out previously, the production designer of The Dark Knight Rises, Nathan Crowley, is related to the infamous black-magic British legend, Aleister Crowley, sometimes called The Great Beast 666. Aleister was Nathan's grandfather's cousin.

Then we have the fact that Suzanne Collins, author of The Hunger Games, a novel in which 23 children are ritually sacrificed in combat by the dystopian state, also lives in Sandy Hook/Newtown.

[link to jonrappoport.wordpress.com]
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a good freind of mine was put on thorazine and DAMM the dude is a ZOMBIE!! i have tried to help the guy and tell him to quit that shit, he is so medicated he gained 150 lbs doesnt bath he has turned into an ANIMAL, so sad to see a human being destroyed like this.
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I often wonder why they chose him. I mean, its obvious this is all rigged, but why him? Why nit Joe or Brent from Denver?
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Seriously, i think the guy was "under possession" I say he needs to go to a mental facility - i could not be on jury to put this guy to death.
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Strange that he called his psychiatrist 9 minutes before the shooting. For those of you who aren't familiar with hypnosis, a simple word, phrase, or sound is used to trigger a predisposed action as deemed by the hypnotist. This can be verified pretty easily. In the south where I'm from they do these things at county fairs and other events. Of course it's never an elaborate action such as killing a theater full of people, but it's the concept in general that matters. Just get on YouTube and watch hypnotism videos and see for yourself.
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He was so fucked up, i mean it's like asking the color of the sky it's so obvious.
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patsy or not, how can you stand trial if you are off your face??
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This story continues to have major discrepancies.

according to the msm report found here:
[link to abcnews.go.com]


James Holmes purchased his ticket for the movie 12 days in advance.
He checked into the movie theatre by scanning his cellphone at the theatre kiosk, three times.
There is no video of the actual shooting.
There is surveillance video of Holmes entering the theatre and milling about the concession stand for three minutes before entering theatre 9 wearing dark pants, light colored shirt, and skullcap (knit winter hat)
He called his psychologist, Dr. Fenton just 9 minutes before the shooting began.


Look at the new images of James Holmes in this video!
The court room sketch shows him with natural color hair and a grizzled beard.
The photo shows him with shaved head and a 2-week-old scruffy beard, and eyes bulging out of his head. Why would his eyes bulge like that? That is not normal, and also notice the size of his pupils! A weird smirk is also noticed when you examine his lips and his eyebrows.

I believe James Holmes is massively over-medicated, to the point of him being in a catatonic, walking-comatose state.
It would be very easy for someone to tell him "Make your eyes pop out, just like this...Good!....Now, smile, but keep your lips closed....Watch me, just like this....Yes!...That's right.....Good boy, James" while he is in such a drugged stupor.

After the video was released of the first appearance of James Holmes in court, even the msm had to question his state of competency.

Link to the full 11:25 minute footage of James Holmes in court: [link to www.youtube.com]


The short 1:32 version



It is obvious to even a child that his behavior is not sober...It is blatantly obvious he is drugged into a stupor and does not comprehend where he is, let alone able to answer the judge's questions. Why does his legal counsel not tell the judge that her client does not understand his questions and that he is unfit to have the court continue these proceedings. His legal counsel does not even look him in the eye!


Remember that video? Even the msm talking heads said he appeared to be drugged.
No surprise that the judge immediately clamped down on video inside the court room, and just like that, voila! No more video of an obviously drugged James Holmes in court. No need to answer questions such as:
What pharmaceuticals are James Holmes being given while imprisoned?
What dosage?
What doctor has prescribed these drugs?
For what reason is James Holmes being given these drugs?
Is James Holmes being given these pharmaceuticals against his will?


This Aurora story stunk from the beginning, and it continues to stink. A major ridiculous piece of this story is the notebook James Holmes is purported to have sent his psychologist, filled with ramblings and fantasies of "killing lots of people"....Miraculously found in the mailbin, and had been sitting there for days before the shooting.
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


Hmm I wonder if they actually showed some type of record of that cell phone transaction. So they actually showed surveillance of James with the orange hair at the concession?
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