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Monster Black Hole Burp Surprises Scientists

 
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Monster Black Hole Burp Surprises Scientists
LONG BEACH, Calif. – Astronomers have discovered what appears to be colossal belch from a massive black hole at the heart of a distant galaxy. The outburst was 10 times as bright as the biggest star explosion, scientists say.

The potential super-sized black hole burp find came as astronomers studied the galaxy NGC 660, which is located 44 million light-years away in the constellation Pisces.

"The discovery was entirely serendipitous. Our observations were spread over a few years, and when we looked at them, we found that one galaxy had changed over that time from being placid and quiescent to undergone a hugely energetic outburst at the end," study researcher Robert Minchin of Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico said in a statement.

To determine whether the outburst was from a supernova — the explosive end of a star — or the galaxy's core, the researchers used the High Sensitivity Array, a global network of telescopes that includes the Very Long Baseline Array, the Arecibo Telescope, the NSF's 100-meter Green Bank Telescope, and the 100-meter Effelsberg Radio Telescope in Germany.

Instead of an expanding ring of material suggesting a supernova event, the researchers found five locations with bright radio emissions clustered around the galaxy's core.

"The most likely explanation is that there are jets coming from the core, but they are precessing, or wobbling, and the hot spots we see are where the jets slammed into the material near the galaxy's nucleus," said Chris Salter, also of the Arecibo Observatory.

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Hawkings radiation?
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i have seen a weird white lightining in north east between 7pm - 8pm night just came for a second hiding
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i have seen a weird white lightining in north east between 7pm - 8pm night just came for a second hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31752457


What was it?
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i have seen a weird white lightining in north east between 7pm - 8pm night just came for a second hiding
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What was it?
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there was no power for a minute or two
i just went on terrace to watch the stars
suddenly i seen a lightining in north east below rigel star
sky was looking clear
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AND they can't see other things like things on mars surface or the Moon....uh ok
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AND they can't see other things like things on mars surface or the Moon....uh ok
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Of course they can! Nasa cover ups to the max. Can't let the population know that we came from aliens!

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i have seen a weird white lightining in north east between 7pm - 8pm night just came for a second hiding
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What was it?
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there was no power for a minute or two
i just went on terrace to watch the stars
suddenly i seen a lightining in north east below rigel star
sky was looking clear
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31752457


Power outage from a storm not uncommon. Anything else happen?
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Betting it wasn't actually a "monster black hole burp". Far more likely a monster exploding "plasma double layer".

They're not so well known, but at least there is sound and reproducible experimental physics behind the theory.
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Betting it wasn't actually a "monster black hole burp". Far more likely a monster exploding "plasma double layer".

They're not so well known, but at least there is sound and reproducible experimental physics behind the theory.
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A double layer is a structure in a plasma and consists of two parallel layers with opposite electrical charge. The sheets of charge cause a strong electric field and a correspondingly sharp change in voltage (electrical potential) across the double layer. Ions and electrons which enter the double layer are accelerated, decelerated, or reflected by the electric field. In general, double layers (which may be curved rather than flat) separate regions of plasma with quite different characteristics. Double layers are found in a wide variety of plasmas, from discharge tubes to space plasmas to the Birkeland currents supplying the Earth's aurora, and are especially common in current-carrying plasmas. Compared to the sizes of the plasmas which contain them, double layers are very thin (typically ten Debye lengths), with widths ranging from a few millimeters for laboratory plasmas to thousands of kilometres for astrophysical plasmas.

Other names for a double layer are electrostatic double layer, electric double layer, plasma double layers, electrostatic shock (a type of double layer which is oriented at an oblique angle to the magnetic field in such a way that the perpendicular electric field is much stronger than the parallel electric field),[6] space charge layer.[7] In laser physics, a double layer is sometimes called an ambipolar electric field.[8] Double layers are conceptually related to the concept of a 'sheath' (see Debye sheath).

The adopted electrical symbol for a double layer, when represented in an electrical circuit is ────DL────. If there is a net current present, then the DL is oriented with the base of the L in line with direction of current.[9]

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i have seen a weird white lightining in north east between 7pm - 8pm night just came for a second hiding
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What was it?
 Quoting: SeekWisdom


there was no power for a minute or two
i just went on terrace to watch the stars
suddenly i seen a lightining in north east below rigel star
sky was looking clear
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31752457


Power outage from a storm not uncommon. Anything else happen?
 Quoting: SeekWisdom


AC doubled up on self-medication.

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What was it?
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there was no power for a minute or two
i just went on terrace to watch the stars
suddenly i seen a lightining in north east below rigel star
sky was looking clear
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31752457


Power outage from a storm not uncommon. Anything else happen?
 Quoting: SeekWisdom


AC doubled up on self-medication.

bonghit
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lolsign
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Scientists surprised?


no way drevil
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Amateur astronomers' find doubles number of possible Earth-like planets
Volunteers from the Planet hunters.org website, part of the Oxford University-led Zooniverse project, discovered 15 new planets – missed by professional astronomers – orbiting in the zones of other stars where it is considered life may be possible.

Scientists all in wonder chuckle
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A black hole, that has infinite mass and sucks in all light and matter, ejects an outburst 10 times as bright as the biggest star explosion.

How could you possibly come up with a theory more contradictory than that?

I think there is a problem with the math here.
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A black hole, that has infinite mass and sucks in all light and matter, ejects an outburst 10 times as bright as the biggest star explosion.

How could you possibly come up with a theory more contradictory than that?

I think there is a problem with the math here.
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What's the problem with the math?
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anyone see the video with the dome shaped magnets, he showed clearly how all matter held by magnetic field, he used small bbs and showed how these fields shoot objects from the center. anyone see that, can you post a link, amazing video
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YOU left out the best part.

That our Milky Way Gallaxy Black Hole is going to ingest that Gas Cloud coming at it and then belch.

Go to Extincton Protocol for THE WHOLE ARTICLE.
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YOU left out the best part.

That our Milky Way Gallaxy Black Hole is going to ingest that Gas Cloud coming at it and then belch.

Go to Extincton Protocol for THE WHOLE ARTICLE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22655145


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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Betting it wasn't actually a "monster black hole burp". Far more likely a monster exploding "plasma double layer".

They're not so well known, but at least there is sound and reproducible experimental physics behind the theory.
 Quoting: Shelgeyr


As opposed to "Black" anything in what is laughably called the "Standard Model" of cosmology!

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Electric/Plasma Universe, FTW!

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Amateur astronomers' find doubles number of possible Earth-like planets
Volunteers from the Planet hunters.org website, part of the Oxford University-led Zooniverse project, discovered 15 new planets – missed by professional astronomers – orbiting in the zones of other stars where it is considered life may be possible.

Scientists all in wonder chuckle
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So whats wrong with the hoard of so called Amateurs around this site.

The only thing they ever discover is whats wrong with everybody else.

Probably because they are not Amateurs at Astronomy just Professionals at Shilling.
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Scientists surprised?


no way drevil
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Cosmologists are always being "astonished", "baffled" and "gobstruck".

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YOU left out the best part.

That our Milky Way Gallaxy Black Hole is going to ingest that Gas Cloud coming at it and then belch.

Go to Extincton Protocol for THE WHOLE ARTICLE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22655145


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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Its going to eat that cloud somtime around June/July.
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Cosmologists and their ridiculous "Standard Model" do not follow the scientific method.

Cosmologists are a bunch of Mathematician-Priest Gatekeepers.

damned
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So...technically....this actually happened 44 million years ago?
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Hawkings radiation?
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No human can see radiation.
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So...technically....this actually happened 44 million years ago?
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Yeah you know, back in the day!
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This is interesting as information going into a black hole was thought to be lost.
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Hawkings radiation?
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No human can see radiation.
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or galaxies, but telescopes see all these things

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