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As of this Wednesday, over 600 teachers from 15 states have applied for a free firearms training program that a gun advocacy group, the Buckeye Firearms Association, announced it would sponsor in the wake of the Newtown school shooting. The three-day training will train teachers how to wield firearms in the case of a school shooting.

According to a press release, the association hopes to use the training as a starting point for a more refined, ongoing "Armed Teacher" curriculum. The first training will take place this spring at an Ohio training facility. Buckeye Firearms' chairman Jim Irvine explained program details to StateImpact:

It has to be conducted in an outside range, a dynamic range as they're called, because it's just something you can't do shooting down lanes at a firing range, so weather is a factor in Ohio and the class is not completely designed yet.

In a traditional shooting range you're in a shooting lane, but classrooms aren't conducted in lanes. The threat can come from anywhere; the threat can come from multiple directions. You have to analyze the threat in a 3D environment. We want to train for the real event.

We have to change the mindset in schools and get some good people in schools that are the first line of defense. This isn't a new idea it's just that the events in Connecticut make what we've been talking about for years all of a sudden politically acceptable. Now everything is on the table, this is something that can and will be done.

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one would think that under stress and confusion someone who has just learned how to use a gun would not be a perfect person holding a loaded gun.
after years of using a gun and target practice....to the point the gun becomes an extension of their body....only then could they begin learning how to react during these kinds of stressful events.
even then until one has gone through a real event will anyone know how they would react.
thinking back to last summer where 2 NYPD cops spayed bullets at a crowed rush hour midtown corner....wounding 9 people.

wow i just do not know what the answer is here.
ban...newly armed teachers...nothing?
i personally do not own a gun....
my choice...but i do feel very strongly that if my neighbor wants to own one that is his choice....that is his right.
as well as it is my right to have or not have a gun of my own.

i do know the bad guys do not get their guns from a legal gun seller. the bad guys do not go through background checks.

and the bad guys will not have their gun taken away by these bans.
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I say kudos to these teachers.

I dont know that I could be a teacher and be armed, but I also know, i could never be a doctor, or in the military, or even a trash man....but they are jobs someone has to do, the teachers role is evolving, i say kudos to them, or taking power......
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ya know somethin.

I have suddenly seen that the Government isnot disarming the We The People, but are fn arming us.

Thereis something else, all together, going on.

OR

The schools, which are about to be Militarilized, are going to kidnap all the children at gun point. However that wouldnot explain all the thousands of people being led to WalMart to purchase guns and ammunition. SOOOOOOOOO I SAY:
WEARE ABOUT TO BE ATTACKED.

What is going on down at the Panama Canal, folks ! ! !

Someone should take a ride down there, to go take a look see. Also at our NORTH BORDER (CANADA)! ! !

Someone should take a ride into the Canadian Tundar ! ! !

Anyone here willing to get a tour bus or two or three?- Actually on foot would be the only safe way.

People on the coast should be watching out to sea for periscopes.

yeah, this is it

Since/if weare about to be invaded, and our government knows it, yet, isnot telling us, yet getting us armed . . .
what does it mean they expect to happen to us? Does it mean they are in on the "invasion"?- and going to be a part of the invasion (on the side of the invaders?).

So with our pea shooters, we fight two nations' invading armies, plus our own military, what will happen to us?

Remember: they all will be wearing uniforms, but wewillnot be in uniforms, and easily identified as the non-military with the pea shooters.

Tell me: can anyone tell whether or not my brain is, at the moment, working right?- i think iam in shock
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So anyone remember this? Year after 9/11.

US Airways Pilot's Gun Fires In Cockpit

[link to www.cbsnews.com]

What a disaster waiting to happen.
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We're not going to be invaded any time soon. What you will see in a couple of months will be zero signing an EO making most firearms illegal. And that will kick it all off.....
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ya know somethin.

I have suddenly seen that the Government isnot disarming the We The People, but are fn arming us.

Thereis something else, all together, going on.

OR

The schools, which are about to be Militarilized, are going to kidnap all the children at gun point. However that wouldnot explain all the thousands of people being led to WalMart to purchase guns and ammunition. SOOOOOOOOO I SAY:
WEARE ABOUT TO BE ATTACKED.

What is going on down at the Panama Canal, folks ! ! !

Someone should take a ride down there, to go take a look see. Also at our NORTH BORDER (CANADA)! ! !

Someone should take a ride into the Canadian Tundar ! ! !

Anyone here willing to get a tour bus or two or three?- Actually on foot would be the only safe way.

People on the coast should be watching out to sea for periscopes.

yeah, this is it

Since/if weare about to be invaded, and our government knows it, yet, isnot telling us, yet getting us armed . . .
what does it mean they expect to happen to us? Does it mean they are in on the "invasion"?- and going to be a part of the invasion (on the side of the invaders?).

So with our pea shooters, we fight two nations' invading armies, plus our own military, what will happen to us?

Remember: they all will be wearing uniforms, but wewillnot be in uniforms, and easily identified as the non-military with the pea shooters.

Tell me: can anyone tell whether or not my brain is, at the moment, working right?- i think iam in shock
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Why one stars?

Teachers shouldnt arm themselves?
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This is the way to prevention.

Come at me and you are dead, concealed carry with training is the best deterrent known to mankind.

These cowards only seek to harm the helpless, make them fear everyone.
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As of this Wednesday, over 600 teachers from 15 states have applied for a free firearms training program that a gun advocacy group, the Buckeye Firearms Association, announced it would sponsor in the wake of the Newtown school shooting. The three-day training will train teachers how to wield firearms in the case of a school shooting.

According to a press release, the association hopes to use the training as a starting point for a more refined, ongoing "Armed Teacher" curriculum. The first training will take place this spring at an Ohio training facility. Buckeye Firearms' chairman Jim Irvine explained program details to StateImpact:

It has to be conducted in an outside range, a dynamic range as they're called, because it's just something you can't do shooting down lanes at a firing range, so weather is a factor in Ohio and the class is not completely designed yet.

In a traditional shooting range you're in a shooting lane, but classrooms aren't conducted in lanes. The threat can come from anywhere; the threat can come from multiple directions. You have to analyze the threat in a 3D environment. We want to train for the real event.

We have to change the mindset in schools and get some good people in schools that are the first line of defense. This isn't a new idea it's just that the events in Connecticut make what we've been talking about for years all of a sudden politically acceptable. Now everything is on the table, this is something that can and will be done.

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Home school, problem solved.
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As of this Wednesday, over 600 teachers from 15 states have applied for a free firearms training program that a gun advocacy group, the Buckeye Firearms Association, announced it would sponsor in the wake of the Newtown school shooting. The three-day training will train teachers how to wield firearms in the case of a school shooting.

According to a press release, the association hopes to use the training as a starting point for a more refined, ongoing "Armed Teacher" curriculum. The first training will take place this spring at an Ohio training facility. Buckeye Firearms' chairman Jim Irvine explained program details to StateImpact:

It has to be conducted in an outside range, a dynamic range as they're called, because it's just something you can't do shooting down lanes at a firing range, so weather is a factor in Ohio and the class is not completely designed yet.

In a traditional shooting range you're in a shooting lane, but classrooms aren't conducted in lanes. The threat can come from anywhere; the threat can come from multiple directions. You have to analyze the threat in a 3D environment. We want to train for the real event.

We have to change the mindset in schools and get some good people in schools that are the first line of defense. This isn't a new idea it's just that the events in Connecticut make what we've been talking about for years all of a sudden politically acceptable. Now everything is on the table, this is something that can and will be done.

[link to www.motherjones.com]
 Quoting: J&V


Home school, problem solved.
 Quoting: nzreva


Hey reva!!! hi


I know you are a firm believer in home schooling, but that isnt the solution in my opinion.

It depends on who is doing the teaching, i have seen first hand, home schooling going horribly wrong......and have also seen the good.

But this kid lanza, wasnt he homeschooled???
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600 teachers with brains... hopefully there is more.
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More guns in school... What could possibly go wrong...?
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More guns in school... What could possibly go wrong...?
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What could go wrong.... well, they could be stopped and we'd be just as pathetic as the Brits.
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More guns in school... What could possibly go wrong...?
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That's like saying : more cars in the street, what could go wrong?

That's a fucking ridiculous statement.
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Sad USA is going to turn into a military shit hole because of one psychopath. You guys are nuts.
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sucks that it has had to come to this, but if it can save innocent childrens lives at some point in the future then hell yeah i am all for it.
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sucks that it has had to come to this, but if it can save innocent childrens lives at some point in the future then hell yeah i am all for it.
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Yeah and when everybody is disarmed, the few dozen children you ``saved`` will turn into tens of millions of dead children.

Read history and stfu.
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ya know somethin.

I have suddenly seen that the Government isnot disarming the We The People, but are fn arming us.

Thereis something else, all together, going on.

OR

The schools, which are about to be Militarilized, are going to kidnap all the children at gun point. However that wouldnot explain all the thousands of people being led to WalMart to purchase guns and ammunition. SOOOOOOOOO I SAY:
WEARE ABOUT TO BE ATTACKED.

What is going on down at the Panama Canal, folks ! ! !

Someone should take a ride down there, to go take a look see. Also at our NORTH BORDER (CANADA)! ! !

Someone should take a ride into the Canadian Tundar ! ! !

Anyone here willing to get a tour bus or two or three?- Actually on foot would be the only safe way.

People on the coast should be watching out to sea for periscopes.

yeah, this is it

Since/if weare about to be invaded, and our government knows it, yet, isnot telling us, yet getting us armed . . .
what does it mean they expect to happen to us? Does it mean they are in on the "invasion"?- and going to be a part of the invasion (on the side of the invaders?).

So with our pea shooters, we fight two nations' invading armies, plus our own military, what will happen to us?

Remember: they all will be wearing uniforms, but wewillnot be in uniforms, and easily identified as the non-military with the pea shooters.

Tell me: can anyone tell whether or not my brain is, at the moment, working right?- i think iam in shock
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cool story bro
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man.... if I knew my teachers had guns I never would have harassed them so much as a smart ass student...
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man.... if I knew my teachers had guns I never would have harassed them so much as a smart ass student...
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Me neither.
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Sad USA is going to turn into a military shit hole because of one psychopath. You guys are nuts.
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Says the guy from grater Pakistan. get your shit together first.
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More guns in school... What could possibly go wrong...?
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What could go wrong.... well, they could be stopped and we'd be just as pathetic as the Brits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


Please repeat, but this time with a response that makes sense...
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More guns in school... What could possibly go wrong...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31764201


That's like saying : more cars in the street, what could go wrong?

That's a fucking ridiculous statement.
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You cannot tell the difference between a car and a gun...?
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More guns in school... What could possibly go wrong...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31764201


What could go wrong.... well, they could be stopped and we'd be just as pathetic as the Brits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10401141


At least our children can open lemonade stands without being hassled by the "government". LOL

How many dogs have been shot by the police in the UK... ( answer 0)

How many drones coming to UK skys? ( answer 0 )

NDAA mean anything to ya?

I really could go on & on...
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one would think that under stress and confusion someone who has just learned how to use a gun would not be a perfect person holding a loaded gun.
after years of using a gun and target practice....to the point the gun becomes an extension of their body....only then could they begin learning how to react during these kinds of stressful events.
even then until one has gone through a real event will anyone know how they would react.
thinking back to last summer where 2 NYPD cops spayed bullets at a crowed rush hour midtown corner....wounding 9 people.

wow i just do not know what the answer is here.
ban...newly armed teachers...nothing?
i personally do not own a gun....
my choice...but i do feel very strongly that if my neighbor wants to own one that is his choice....that is his right.
as well as it is my right to have or not have a gun of my own.

i do know the bad guys do not get their guns from a legal gun seller. the bad guys do not go through background checks.

and the bad guys will not have their gun taken away by these bans.
1dunno1
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Police in general are the worst gun handlers around. Proportionately they have far more bad shootings than nonpolice defensive shootings.

With quality training there is no concern for armed teachers


There are literally millions who conceal and open carry. The incidence of misuse is almost non existent.

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sucks that it has had to come to this, but if it can save innocent childrens lives at some point in the future then hell yeah i am all for it.
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But how long will it be then, before a crazed student determines he doesn't need to figure out how to get his guns into the building.... The teachers already have them in there for him? Just a thought!
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sucks that it has had to come to this, but if it can save innocent childrens lives at some point in the future then hell yeah i am all for it.
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But how long will it be then, before a crazed student determines he doesn't need to figure out how to get his guns into the building.... The teachers already have them in there for him? Just a thought!
 Quoting: Soup Du Jour 15489286


The kind of individual who does this type of thing is a weak coward. They couldn't disarm a grandmother.
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ya know somethin.

I have suddenly seen that the Government isnot disarming the We The People, but are fn arming us.

Thereis something else, all together, going on.

OR

The schools, which are about to be Militarilized, are going to kidnap all the children at gun point. However that wouldnot explain all the thousands of people being led to WalMart to purchase guns and ammunition. SOOOOOOOOO I SAY:
WEARE ABOUT TO BE ATTACKED.

What is going on down at the Panama Canal, folks ! ! !

Someone should take a ride down there, to go take a look see. Also at our NORTH BORDER (CANADA)! ! !

Someone should take a ride into the Canadian Tundar ! ! !

Anyone here willing to get a tour bus or two or three?- Actually on foot would be the only safe way.

People on the coast should be watching out to sea for periscopes.

yeah, this is it

Since/if weare about to be invaded, and our government knows it, yet, isnot telling us, yet getting us armed . . .
what does it mean they expect to happen to us? Does it mean they are in on the "invasion"?- and going to be a part of the invasion (on the side of the invaders?).

So with our pea shooters, we fight two nations' invading armies, plus our own military, what will happen to us?

Remember: they all will be wearing uniforms, but wewillnot be in uniforms, and easily identified as the non-military with the pea shooters.

Tell me: can anyone tell whether or not my brain is, at the moment, working right?- i think iam in shock
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sad when so many so scared at places of learning.

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