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Not one but two HUGE SUNSPOTS

 
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Sunspot 1654 is labeled as an "Alpha". Is this a big joke they are playing on us???

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[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
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Sunspot 1654 is labeled as an "Alpha". Is this a big joke they are playing on us???
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Yeah shit got too juicy I had to come back. This is ridiculous. And is the third spot behind 1654 verified or is this hypothetical?
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[link to sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov] There is an odd spherical anomaly centered bottom left, could be nothing.
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Sunspot 1654 is labeled as an "Alpha". Is this a big joke they are playing on us???
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Yeah shit got too juicy I had to come back. This is ridiculous. And is the third spot behind 1654 verified or is this hypothetical?
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There's a 3rd spot?
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Great thread and pinned. behind 1654 another large sunspot in addition to 1652. In a few days this is a potential triple gun barrel earth directed. also all this following the most numerous sunspot daily count of this cycle the past few days.

What are we looking at ? Certainly a potential for major earth directed solar activity.

Who can tell ?
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If flares from #1 weaken the magnetosphere for #2, and #2 for #3.. This is a potential catastrophe.
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Great thread and pinned. behind 1654 another large sunspot in addition to 1652. In a few days this is a potential triple gun barrel earth directed. also all this following the most numerous sunspot daily count of this cycle the past few days.

What are we looking at ? Certainly a potential for major earth directed solar activity.

Who can tell ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8598974


If flares from #1 weaken the magnetosphere for #2, and #2 for #3.. This is a potential catastrophe.
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Oh yeah. It's old sunspot 1633. It is a few days away I think
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History with this spot?
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Not really sure. Keep in mind we haven't seen a strong flare in a few months.
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:1/9-1654:
"There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life."
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Black hole sun..won't you come??
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:1/9-1654:
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Alpha. LMAO
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Whats wrong with this picture....press latest at the top left then add 3 images

[link to helioviewer.org]
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fuck all will happen trust me, i've seen em come and go, huge sunspots and fuck all has happened doom off
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Whats wrong with this picture....press latest at the top left then add 3 images

[link to helioviewer.org]
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Holy shit. Did it just fire off a flare? That imagery looks very odd.
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Is it time to start thinking about backing up my Porn?
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Thank's for reminding me .
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Re: Not one but two HUGE SUNSPOTS
Ok. Solarham said it will most likely be upgraded to a Beta tomorrow.
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if everyone on earth puts on sunglasses and gets together in the exact spot where the solar flare will hit the earth...
We can save humanity together!!

chorus
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Ok. Solarham said it will most likely be upgraded to a Beta tomorrow.
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Explain to a non suntard the scale of alpha beta
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if everyone on earth puts on sunglasses and gets together in the exact spot where the solar flare will hit the earth...
We can save humanity together!!

chorus
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Flares do not hit the Earth in a specific spot. They impact all areas around the Earth by disrupting the geomagnetic field and stirring up the ionosphere.
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Ok. Solarham said it will most likely be upgraded to a Beta tomorrow.
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Explain to a non suntard the scale of alpha beta
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In simple terms -

Alpha is the most simple magnetic complexity (these are less likely to flare)

Beta is next. There is also Beta-Gamma and Beta-Gamma-Delta each more complex. Here is a useful link

[link to spaceweather.com]
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if everyone on earth puts on sunglasses and gets together in the exact spot where the solar flare will hit the earth...
We can save humanity together!!

chorus
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Flares do not hit the Earth in a specific spot. They impact all areas around the Earth by disrupting the geomagnetic field and stirring up the ionosphere.
 Quoting: AR1654 Monster


bsflag
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if everyone on earth puts on sunglasses and gets together in the exact spot where the solar flare will hit the earth...
We can save humanity together!!

chorus
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LOL5a
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Ok. Solarham said it will most likely be upgraded to a Beta tomorrow.
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Explain to a non suntard the scale of alpha beta
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I'm not really sure on this but an alpha won't flare most likely. A beta-gamma can cause an M flare and a Beta-Gamma-Delta magnetic field can cause strong X-class solar flare. I'm not very good in talking about the magnetic fields of the sunspots.
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Ok so then right now these would be considered relatively low magnetic complexity. Which I read earlier is prone to rapid change?
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if everyone on earth puts on sunglasses and gets together in the exact spot where the solar flare will hit the earth...
We can save humanity together!!

chorus
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Flares do not hit the Earth in a specific spot. They impact all areas around the Earth by disrupting the geomagnetic field and stirring up the ionosphere.
 Quoting: AR1654 Monster


bsflag
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lol...ok.

Solar flares are not like tornadoes where they are fairly localized. That is why when there is a big solar storm you will often see auroras in many, many areas of the globe. It's not a pinpoint event.
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Ok. Solarham said it will most likely be upgraded to a Beta tomorrow.
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Explain to a non suntard the scale of alpha beta
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In simple terms -

Alpha is the most simple magnetic complexity (these are less likely to flare)

Beta is next. There is also Beta-Gamma and Beta-Gamma-Delta each more complex. Here is a useful link

[link to spaceweather.com]
 Quoting: AR1654 Monster


Geo, the link in his post is very informative regarding magnetic field complexity.
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Ok so then right now these would be considered relatively low magnetic complexity. Which I read earlier is prone to rapid change?
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Well if they are indeed Alpha class.

The concern in the main solar thread is that the classification of "alpha" is not correct. One can look at the magnetogram and see it looks fairly complex. There is a chance it is more complex than an "alpha" but may have received that label until further data is analyzed. Hope this helps!
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Is the sun confused about its solar maximum, does that have something to do with this? Aren't we past it at this point? Please help me out here, any knowledgeable suntard who is willing to help a sista out. Thanks!

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Re: Not one but two HUGE SUNSPOTS
Here is the visual classification to add fuel to the fire :)
Sunspot Type: DKC with description as follows:
D - A bipolar sunspot group with penumbra on both ends of
the group. Longitudinal extent does not exceeds 10 deg.
K-large, assymetric. Same structure as type 'a', but north-south diameter of penumbra is more than 2.5 degrees. Area, therefore, must be larger or equal than 250 millionths solar hemisphere.
C- compact. The area between the leading and the following ends of the spot group is populated with many strong spots, with at least one interior spot possessing mature peanumbra. The extreme case of compact distribution has the entire spot group enveloped in one continuous prenumbral area.
Based on classification chance of M-flare: 50%, chance of X-flare-51%.
Be mindful, the system is faulty when the sunspot is not completely facing Earth, and may exaggerate the probabilities. The last such alert did not materialize. But more data supporting a doom event is always welcome :). :rant:

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