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"Unconstitutional laws aren't laws" Watch Marine owning slimy MSM lackey with astonishing authority.

 
Manu-Koelbren (OP)

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Re: "Unconstitutional laws aren't laws" Watch Marine owning slimy MSM lackey with astonishing authority.
This is all for lawyers and supreme court judges to decide.

When they all agree on what is the law and the full force of the state and federal governments is used to back-up any who do not confirm, it will not matter what "the actual" law is.

Might makes right.
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Who the fuck do you think they are, god. Last time I read the Constitution is was god who has given us the right. And the 2nd Amendment is there to protect that god given right.

Fucking autobot, go back to your handlers & tell them to FUCK OFF!
 Quoting: ohnonotagain


There is no reason to threaten.

The point is that it does not matter what you or anyone else "thinks" that your particular "God" has given or taken away.

The point is that might makes right. Once the full force of the state is behind any action, you are fighting that entire weight of law with ideas.

Ideas, although they are powerful, always lose in the end to violence AND ideas.

Unless one has both when facing both, then your sword against the tanks and planes is woefully lacking.
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LOL. I suppose the people of India following that Mahatma Gandhi fellow were powerless against violence? How about civil rights or women's rights, the government sure crushed those crazy protesters right? I suppose you believe the ideas and violence of the USA government stamped out alcohol consumption during Prohibition? Ideas and violence working together sure kept those states from legalizing marijuana use, didn't it?

Arrogantly stating an demonstrably incorrect opinion such as "Ideas, although they are powerful, always lose in the end to violence AND ideas," doesn't make it what you say a fact, it just makes you look clueless. You fail to realize that in order for those tanks and planes to run, people have to agree with your ideas. People have to operate them, they have to make the parts for them, produce and sell the fuel for them. Even drones are controlled by someone at a desk somewhere. You assume the foundations of the state's power that has allowed them to accumulate weapons of war are permanent and will never change. Ideas don't always win against violence, but they don't always lose either. That is because ideas don't have to defeat tanks or planes, they just have to convince the individuals who build, fuel, maintain, and operate the tanks and planes. And those individuals increasingly hate people who claim they are working for the "greater good".
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Sorry to say but your argument is flawed. Those who have ideas and the power of might to carry them to fruition will always triumph over those who merely have ideas. If a 50 % of the populace holds merely an idea and the other 50% holds a contrary idea AND the power to impose it with violence, guess who will win?
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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Re: "Unconstitutional laws aren't laws" Watch Marine owning slimy MSM lackey with astonishing authority.
This is all for lawyers and supreme court judges to decide.

When they all agree on what is the law and the full force of the state and federal governments is used to back-up any who do not confirm, it will not matter what "the actual" law is.

Might makes right.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


"Shall not be infringed", Period.
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Re: "Unconstitutional laws aren't laws" Watch Marine owning slimy MSM lackey with astonishing authority.
This is all for lawyers and supreme court judges to decide.

When they all agree on what is the law and the full force of the state and federal governments is used to back-up any who do not confirm, it will not matter what "the actual" law is.

Might makes right.
 Quoting: 535 1326993



Who the fuck do you think they are, god. Last time I read the Constitution is was god who has given us the right. And the 2nd Amendment is there to protect that god given right.

Fucking autobot, go back to your handlers & tell them to FUCK OFF!
 Quoting: ohnonotagain


There is no reason to threaten.

The point is that it does not matter what you or anyone else "thinks" that your particular "God" has given or taken away.

The point is that might makes right. Once the full force of the state is behind any action, you are fighting that entire weight of law with ideas.

Ideas, although they are powerful, always lose in the end to violence AND ideas.

Unless one has both when facing both, then your sword against the tanks and planes is woefully lacking.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


LOL. I suppose the people of India following that Mahatma Gandhi fellow were powerless against violence? How about civil rights or women's rights, the government sure crushed those crazy protesters right? I suppose you believe the ideas and violence of the USA government stamped out alcohol consumption during Prohibition? Ideas and violence working together sure kept those states from legalizing marijuana use, didn't it?

Arrogantly stating an demonstrably incorrect opinion such as "Ideas, although they are powerful, always lose in the end to violence AND ideas," doesn't make it what you say a fact, it just makes you look clueless. You fail to realize that in order for those tanks and planes to run, people have to agree with your ideas. People have to operate them, they have to make the parts for them, produce and sell the fuel for them. Even drones are controlled by someone at a desk somewhere. You assume the foundations of the state's power that has allowed them to accumulate weapons of war are permanent and will never change. Ideas don't always win against violence, but they don't always lose either. That is because ideas don't have to defeat tanks or planes, they just have to convince the individuals who build, fuel, maintain, and operate the tanks and planes. And those individuals increasingly hate people who claim they are working for the "greater good".
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Cheers! Way better than my reply was going to be.....

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Who the fuck do you think they are, god. Last time I read the Constitution is was god who has given us the right. And the 2nd Amendment is there to protect that god given right.

Fucking autobot, go back to your handlers & tell them to FUCK OFF!
 Quoting: ohnonotagain


There is no reason to threaten.

The point is that it does not matter what you or anyone else "thinks" that your particular "God" has given or taken away.

The point is that might makes right. Once the full force of the state is behind any action, you are fighting that entire weight of law with ideas.

Ideas, although they are powerful, always lose in the end to violence AND ideas.

Unless one has both when facing both, then your sword against the tanks and planes is woefully lacking.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


LOL. I suppose the people of India following that Mahatma Gandhi fellow were powerless against violence? How about civil rights or women's rights, the government sure crushed those crazy protesters right? I suppose you believe the ideas and violence of the USA government stamped out alcohol consumption during Prohibition? Ideas and violence working together sure kept those states from legalizing marijuana use, didn't it?

Arrogantly stating an demonstrably incorrect opinion such as "Ideas, although they are powerful, always lose in the end to violence AND ideas," doesn't make it what you say a fact, it just makes you look clueless. You fail to realize that in order for those tanks and planes to run, people have to agree with your ideas. People have to operate them, they have to make the parts for them, produce and sell the fuel for them. Even drones are controlled by someone at a desk somewhere. You assume the foundations of the state's power that has allowed them to accumulate weapons of war are permanent and will never change. Ideas don't always win against violence, but they don't always lose either. That is because ideas don't have to defeat tanks or planes, they just have to convince the individuals who build, fuel, maintain, and operate the tanks and planes. And those individuals increasingly hate people who claim they are working for the "greater good".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29956779


Sorry to say but your argument is flawed. Those who have ideas and the power of might to carry them to fruition will always triumph over those who merely have ideas. If a 50 % of the populace holds merely an idea and the other 50% holds a contrary idea AND the power to impose it with violence, guess who will win?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


If you think you're so correct, please explain the American Revolution.....waiting.....
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The more I hear from this guy, the more I like him.
I wonder if anyone is coaching him before the shows.
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There is no reason to threaten.

The point is that it does not matter what you or anyone else "thinks" that your particular "God" has given or taken away.

The point is that might makes right. Once the full force of the state is behind any action, you are fighting that entire weight of law with ideas.

Ideas, although they are powerful, always lose in the end to violence AND ideas.

Unless one has both when facing both, then your sword against the tanks and planes is woefully lacking.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


LOL. I suppose the people of India following that Mahatma Gandhi fellow were powerless against violence? How about civil rights or women's rights, the government sure crushed those crazy protesters right? I suppose you believe the ideas and violence of the USA government stamped out alcohol consumption during Prohibition? Ideas and violence working together sure kept those states from legalizing marijuana use, didn't it?

Arrogantly stating an demonstrably incorrect opinion such as "Ideas, although they are powerful, always lose in the end to violence AND ideas," doesn't make it what you say a fact, it just makes you look clueless. You fail to realize that in order for those tanks and planes to run, people have to agree with your ideas. People have to operate them, they have to make the parts for them, produce and sell the fuel for them. Even drones are controlled by someone at a desk somewhere. You assume the foundations of the state's power that has allowed them to accumulate weapons of war are permanent and will never change. Ideas don't always win against violence, but they don't always lose either. That is because ideas don't have to defeat tanks or planes, they just have to convince the individuals who build, fuel, maintain, and operate the tanks and planes. And those individuals increasingly hate people who claim they are working for the "greater good".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29956779


Sorry to say but your argument is flawed. Those who have ideas and the power of might to carry them to fruition will always triumph over those who merely have ideas. If a 50 % of the populace holds merely an idea and the other 50% holds a contrary idea AND the power to impose it with violence, guess who will win?
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


If you think you're so correct, please explain the American Revolution.....waiting.....
 Quoting: ohnonotagain


Why don't you explain your point regarding the American revolution and then I will retort.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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The idea that citizens can't be armed and the government should have a monopoly on force to protect the population stems from the fallacious idea that governments can't turn against their own citizens. All the Piers Morgans and Feinsteins out there pushing for gun control totally disregard this point as something from a bygone past that's never to return, yet were Obama to start sending political dissidents to concentration camps and the population had no means to stop it, these scumbags would have a lot of blood in their hands. Of course they already know about this agenda because they're hired agents in it.

And btw, why would anyone seeing the direction the US government is taking ,think that they are going to go in a different direction than all the governments that did the same throughout history? Why leads people to think this government is somehow more benign(and will remain so) than all the earlier genocidal, ruthless dictatorships? Is it some kind of spell that the masses are under?

Last Edited by Manu-K on 01/10/2013 06:32 PM
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz

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