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PhDs on Food Stamps - More than 5000 Janitors have PhDs

 
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Interesting data at link


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Interesting data at link


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One of my neighbors is a janitor and a former airline pilot, this is not B.S., and another was an A-6 pilot in vietnam and lays tile for a living these days.
Wild Weasels? You've got to be shitting me!
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Anyone in this economic climate who takes on tens of thousands of dollars of student loan debt is crazy.



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It will be good for them !! They need to get their hands dirty and do without for while . Maybe they wont be such intelligent assholes trying to tell everyone else whats best for them and how they have to do it !!!!
We dont need even one more educated person in this country . We need people with character and ethics neither of which are developed in our colleges.

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What the fuck! Why even go to collage in the first place!
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They probably refused to join certain fraternities and clubs in which it would be necessary for them to commit acts they could be blackmailed about.
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The most important things I've learned,
I didn't learn in college.



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Those In high places will be brought down and humbled.

But I would hope they could use their education for the greater good. If they would volunteer to teach at shelters or missions, or organize community projects, I believe they would be blessed.
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people are victims of elite greed.

back during Reagan yrs

my chosen field dried up
so they told me to go back and learn
a new trade to survive. I did.

During Clinton's reign, it fell through
again and they told me to go back to
school again to learn something new. I did.

During Bush's reign, it fell through again
and they told me to go back to school
again to learn something new. I did.

during Obama's reign, it fell through again
and they told me to go back to school again
to learn something new.

this time I told them to go fvck themselves.

I could have been retired with a pension by now
from my first field of study.

it is the pillar to post syndrome.

bumping people back and forth between
jobs is a way of not allowing mass amounts
of workers to retire. It's a gimmick that
I learned too late. Maybe my experience
will help some younger person who still
has a dog that can hunt in the game.

As for me, I'm done with the rat race.
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people are victims of elite greed.

back during Reagan yrs

my chosen field dried up
so they told me to go back and learn
a new trade to survive. I did.

During Clinton's reign, it fell through
again and they told me to go back to
school again to learn something new. I did.

During Bush's reign, it fell through again
and they told me to go back to school
again to learn something new. I did.

during Obama's reign, it fell through again
and they told me to go back to school again
to learn something new.

this time I told them to go fvck themselves.

I could have been retired with a pension by now
from my first field of study.

it is the pillar to post syndrome.

bumping people back and forth between
jobs is a way of not allowing mass amounts
of workers to retire. It's a gimmick that
I learned too late. Maybe my experience
will help some younger person who still
has a dog that can hunt in the game.

As for me, I'm done with the rat race.
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this is how you get janitors
with PhD's
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What are their PhD's in? Social Science? Sociology?

Give me a break, PhD doesn't mean anything anymore. Too many idiots go to school professionally for doctorates that nobody wants. That's why the price of college is so high.
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It will be good for them !! They need to get their hands dirty and do without for while . Maybe they wont be such intelligent assholes trying to tell everyone else whats best for them and how they have to do it !!!!
We dont need even one more educated person in this country . We need people with character and ethics neither of which are developed in our colleges.
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Hey! I've got a PhD in ethics!

stfu
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Paging Dr. Toilet Brush, third floor please.

Dr. Toilet Brush, third floor.
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people are victims of elite greed.

back during Reagan yrs

my chosen field dried up
so they told me to go back and learn
a new trade to survive. I did.

During Clinton's reign, it fell through
again and they told me to go back to
school again to learn something new. I did.

During Bush's reign, it fell through again
and they told me to go back to school
again to learn something new. I did.

during Obama's reign, it fell through again
and they told me to go back to school again
to learn something new.

this time I told them to go fvck themselves.

I could have been retired with a pension by now
from my first field of study.

it is the pillar to post syndrome.

bumping people back and forth between
jobs is a way of not allowing mass amounts
of workers to retire. It's a gimmick that
I learned too late. Maybe my experience
will help some younger person who still
has a dog that can hunt in the game.

As for me, I'm done with the rat race.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27513776


this is how you get janitors
with PhD's
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27513776


so now I have a new job.
ousting the mofos that kept me in chains
all my life. There's no money in it,
but it is rewarding to see them squirm.
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most of the good jobs have been shipped out. Same over here and shit sucks. The graphic in the link is just depressing.

I'm not saying there aren't any good jobs over here anymore but positions are few and far between. We should just fully roll out automation and give people a living wage. Apparently the UK spent 500 billion on benefits last year. That is enough to give every man, woman and child in the country a lump sum of £9000. Fuck these menial, wage slave jobs.
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What happens when people get degrees in crap.

If you are not going to get a marketable degree, then don't get one at all.

We do not need any more egotistical brats with degrees in basketweaving who think they are entitled to six figure salaries.
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

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What the fuck! Why even go to collage in the first place!
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exactly, why go..
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As a percentage of the whole 5000 being janitors is inconsequential. Don't knock on people who simply wanted to be masters of their chosen field. Some make it. Some don't. In that way it is just like every other job. Those who can excell in that highly competitive world of highly intelligent people get the job. The rest don't.

Do you dislike people who know more about a subject than you? It sounds like it. I doubt that many people who have ever gone to a good grad school in a science field would be condescending toward Ph.D's. Most of you aren't smart enough to make it. The average IQ of a professor in the sciences is 130. For the rest of you your average IQ is 100. They are probably more intelligent than you and they damn sure know more about their field than any of you. So maybe you should give them some credit.

Everything that you take for granted has been brought to you by Ph.D's. Computers, the internet, microwaves, cable tv, cell phones, you name it.

Show some respect.
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I don't know that all of those are just because of bad economic times. Through the grapevine at one of my old jobs I heard a story of a GS-15 (highest Federal pay grade before entering the executive pay scale) who quit his job and became a high school janitor because he couldn't stand the B.S. and stress anymore. He wanted to just go to work, do his job, and leave his work at work so he could enjoy his family at home, which was something he couldn't do with his high-paying, high-responsibility job. While it's a shame that so many highly educated people might be "stuck" in a career like a janitor, some of them probably do it because they realize what is important in their lives.
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What the fuck! Why even go to collage in the first place!
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exactly, why go..
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collage?
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What happens when people get degrees in crap.

If you are not going to get a marketable degree, then don't get one at all.

We do not need any more egotistical brats with degrees in basketweaving who think they are entitled to six figure salaries.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Jane, that is bullcrap.
I was familiar with trending
and did my homework with what
field stood the best chance
of survivability.

the game is rigged
from the time you are born.

the elite changes the markets and
invests in different things over a
period of yrs. this in turn has
a domino effect on the people
who are actively participating
in the current trends.

business evolves

and so we have to

I am tired of evolving.
I just want steady 9-5 for
30 yrs til I retire.

but I was never allowed that.
no matter what field of study I chose.

and they do it intentionally so they
do not have to cover the cost of
their loyal workers retirement.
workers have been robbed blind
based upon lies told at their hiring.
BRIEF
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But professional students are more enlightened than us uneducated, albeit productive, people!
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It will be good for them !! They need to get their hands dirty and do without for while . Maybe they wont be such intelligent assholes trying to tell everyone else whats best for them and how they have to do it !!!!
 Quoting: 11:11

You sound bitter and jealous.
We dont need even one more educated person in this country . We need people with character and ethics neither of which are developed in our colleges.
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You say that like they're mutually exclusive conditions.
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the sooner the young people of today learn
that ALL JOBS are temporary with no retirement

the sooner they learn that they are but
wage slaves subject to the whims of
the elite money hogs

such is being born in any country
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wait but i thought everyone on disability and food stamps was a lazy illiterate drug addict welfare queen with an xbox widescreen tv and sporty car living high on $600 a month limited income paradise
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What happens when people get degrees in crap.

If you are not going to get a marketable degree, then don't get one at all.

We do not need any more egotistical brats with degrees in basketweaving who think they are entitled to six figure salaries.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Jane, that is bullcrap.
I was familiar with trending
and did my homework with what
field stood the best chance
of survivability.

the game is rigged
from the time you are born.

the elite changes the markets and
invests in different things over a
period of yrs. this in turn has
a domino effect on the people
who are actively participating
in the current trends.

business evolves

and so we have to

I am tired of evolving.
I just want steady 9-5 for
30 yrs til I retire.

but I was never allowed that.
no matter what field of study I chose.

and they do it intentionally so they
do not have to cover the cost of
their loyal workers retirement.
workers have been robbed blind
based upon lies told at their hiring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27513776


We have a family member working toward a BS in Psychology. She honestly believes she will land a six figure job straight out of college.

Like you, I am highly educated. I hold Bachelors degrees in Business Management, Psychology/Social Science; a MS in Management & an MBA with a concentration in Finance.

I know the game is rigged, but if you get a degree in Engineering, Medicine or another more challenging field, there is a much greater chance of finding & keeping a well paying job.

Psychology? A waste of time & money.
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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What happens when people get degrees in crap.

If you are not going to get a marketable degree, then don't get one at all.

We do not need any more egotistical brats with degrees in basketweaving who think they are entitled to six figure salaries.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith



And here, is again, the dumbassery of the US. The "we don't need no education" crap. It is also indicative of the way we have change things: you must be a utility, a slave to business desires! And you must pay for your education in the field of work itself -- forget how people used to be able to get on the job training... no... you have to get the training before you apply. It used to be a college degree got you in the door, not because it was in the area you would work in, but because it showed you were intelligent and can be trained. Now we have people like this dumbass mod who wants to make everything in education about what skills are best for slaves...
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In case you did not notice the above post -- I have no shortage of University degrees. I made a great deal of money during the dot com & housing booms.

Since you regard me as a dumb ass mod, I will make sure you are no longer subjected to any of us.

Back to your Women's Studies class. Get your degree in nothing -- but hey, you can tell yourself how brilliant you are & how nobody understands you because you are just soooooo intellectually superior to the rest of the world.

Ship Out!!

Last Edited by Lady Jane Smith on 01/09/2013 10:05 AM
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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Psychology? A waste of time & money.
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for right now maybe

however, the elites may change their
investments in the next decade and it
becomes hotter than melted butter.
This is the trending I was referring.

what is a good bet on a field of study today
will not be before it becomes time to retire.

the elites are not dumb.
and they know every way to
fvck people over.
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Doesn't surprise me at all.