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Its all about love, Blue Skies.
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It sure is.

kks21
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Why do you keep posting cat pictures, hmmmm? How much did you claim on your taxes for 2012? $57k?
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cat65
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regret nothing
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Don't know if anybody saw it...but I actually got one to admit he was a shill a few days ago. He said he "worked for a GMO" corporation...not Monsanto.
 Quoting: Chip


Thread still around? Sounds like a sarcastic remark from a common GLPer. That's what I would say if someone called me a shill lmao.
 Quoting: aliensbro


No it was extremely thorough the guy had scientific documents pointing out the "benefits" of GMO's and everything. It was a pretty intense debate for a couple of hours.
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Good god i'm glad I didn't run into that shit, very hard for me to let misinformation propogate. Man i've been in some arguments with some shills and that is really what they do, derail the thread tell you to take your meds and make you look stupid. I almost feel like posting a chemtrail thread just to get any shills online currently in the loop
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BAN ALL CATS & ISRAEL
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Errr......Nope :( At least the cat part.
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[link to consciouslifenews.com]

Read the part where GLP was one of his targets..
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I always thought "Paid Shills" was a hoax. I joked about it once on GLP and someone left me a nasty bad karma!

I had no idea there were people who actually did this! Interesting!
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Nope, shills are real. There are even shill bots.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


I just had to google "shill bot." lol
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shill
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...Padre Island, TX does beat it!
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Who would have the finances to pay someone to post on any forum? Sigh.

Rest assured if anyone thinks I'm getting paid to post here ... I do it of my own accord and my own agenda.
 Quoting: CE Aero


A question as simple as that takes not but a second of thought to render an answer. Maybe the people who print the money? Shill.
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Who would have the finances to pay someone to post on any forum? Sigh.

Rest assured if anyone thinks I'm getting paid to post here ... I do it of my own accord and my own agenda.
 Quoting: CE Aero


Corporations make BILLIONS of dollars in profits. Countries have TRILLION dollar budgets. Lots of black budget stuff. The oil companies have money coming out their ears and love to shill. So does the nuclear industry.
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they're for real then?


macgun
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Yes, you see it all the time on GLP. They are usually on threads, or start threads, on topics of GMO, Flouride, Gun Control, Global Warming,, Social Security, Biopharmaceuticals, etc.

These are topics in which the hiring agency wants to sway public opinion, spread disinformation, and discredit true information. Look up “astroturfing”.
Astroturfing Astroturfing refers to political, advertising or public relations campaigns that are designed to mask the sponsors of the message to give the appearance of coming from a disinterested, grassroots participant.
More at Wikipedia
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

A recent example:
Can we discuss Climate Change like Adults??
Thread: Can we discuss Climate Change like Adults??

The topic alone gives you a hint. The Thread OP is telling you ahead that if anyone disagrees or becomes “heated” (emotionally invested”, they are immature, and she also wants to discourage anyone from calling her out. Should anyone become emotional about the topic, she has set up the parameters and can use this to her advantage. “Can we do it, without bashing each other and calling everyone a Shill?

However, once the OP is called out, they will usually abandon the thread, seeing that they cannot accomplish their goals there. They will come back another day, perhaps on another topic. Notice she was recognized early on as a paid or volunteer shill, as the thread received 18 one-stars.

Throughout the thread example, people give detailed feed back which discredits the quotes the OP uses. Notice she never addresses valid points in the feedback, but uses several techniques to control the subject matter and defend her position. I’ve given some post links as examples, but you can find the rest yourself:
--uses the DIVERSION TATCTIC, changing the subject to something else (big Oil)
--picks out the weakest argument among many strong points and tears into that (highlights the other side only)
--subtly demeans or discredits the poster “WOW Issue, YOU GOT SOME ISSUES and one is Reading Comprehension” [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
--never acknowledges any facts given that discredit her posts
--Continually asks for “proof” while providing none herself when asked
--picks out “worse case scenarios” and incites fear when possible to support theory, using “what ifs” and often using children or other emotional issues to make a point
--tries to show how immature others are and how she is the injured, but righteous party [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
--looks for HOT BUTTONS

By Hot Button, I mean looks for posters who might respond to an insult or emotional issue. For example, in a thread about Social Security, the Op started out complaining that he had to pay for old people’s social security, but would never see a dime of it. Plus old people lived in the most prosperous times, and are responsible for the mess we are in. He ends saying old people who lived in these times and didn’t save deserve to live with their kids or on the streets, and we should end SS now.

Imagine the responses? It was very emotional. So emotional that everyone was defending the above, and nobody ever thought to point out that our government stole the money workers and employers put in, instead of investing it, which would have actually resulted in an excess of funds. This OP did his job very well. He got many people to take sides, diverted attention from real issues, and used diversion techniques that everyone fell for.

So when you find yourself getting emotional, take a step back. Look for these techniques. Are you being led down the garden path? Have you abandoned logic and begun arguing unimportant issues that are not relative to the main point? Is the OP playing you?
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[link to consciouslifenews.com]

Read the part where GLP was one of his targets..
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Was he called Doorbert?
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lolcat
Faire et se taire
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Ever wonder why GLP embeds into all links from its site?
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I repeat, no rational person would oppose this thread vigorously EXCEPT a shill.

Of course shills exists. Governments and corporations need to "control" perception - of issues that are important to them. They can't just have people asking questions and developing rational answers to those questions through honest inquiry because the end result would be a fucking change so fast that they would lose their power.

So, anyone who denies shills exist is in fact a shill.

It doesn't really matter if the original story is actually a true account since it certainly describes what probably is the basic SOP for shills.
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Ad hominem attack in..3..2..1.
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Go to the DOD website and look for the job listings, this activity is euphemistically referred to as "maintaining multiple online identities" and such...

It is the American version of the Chinese 50 cent army.

You can see some top-level placement and steering on this site for sure, it is pretty obvious. The overt ones usually have to do with Israel/Iran.

It shows desperation...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27112816


Check out my threads, I have two on GLP. DO a user Id search for threads and you will easily be able to ascertain that the post started out normally with a lot of GLP interest and was later completely hijacked by disinformation operatives. That's what I call them.
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Ad hominem attack in..3..2..1.
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When you win, they ignore you and hope the thread dies. That is hard to do with a pinned thread.
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they're for real then?


macgun
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Yes, you see it all the time on GLP. They are usually on threads, or start threads, on topics of GMO, Flouride, Gun Control, Global Warming,, Social Security, Biopharmaceuticals, etc.

These are topics in which the hiring agency wants to sway public opinion, spread disinformation, and discredit true information. Look up “astroturfing”.
Astroturfing Astroturfing refers to political, advertising or public relations campaigns that are designed to mask the sponsors of the message to give the appearance of coming from a disinterested, grassroots participant.
More at Wikipedia
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

A recent example:
Can we discuss Climate Change like Adults??
Thread: Can we discuss Climate Change like Adults??

The topic alone gives you a hint. The Thread OP is telling you ahead that if anyone disagrees or becomes “heated” (emotionally invested”, they are immature, and she also wants to discourage anyone from calling her out. Should anyone become emotional about the topic, she has set up the parameters and can use this to her advantage. “Can we do it, without bashing each other and calling everyone a Shill?

However, once the OP is called out, they will usually abandon the thread, seeing that they cannot accomplish their goals there. They will come back another day, perhaps on another topic. Notice she was recognized early on as a paid or volunteer shill, as the thread received 18 one-stars.

Throughout the thread example, people give detailed feed back which discredits the quotes the OP uses. Notice she never addresses valid points in the feedback, but uses several techniques to control the subject matter and defend her position. I’ve given some post links as examples, but you can find the rest yourself:
--uses the DIVERSION TATCTIC, changing the subject to something else (big Oil)
--picks out the weakest argument among many strong points and tears into that (highlights the other side only)
--subtly demeans or discredits the poster “WOW Issue, YOU GOT SOME ISSUES and one is Reading Comprehension” [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
--never acknowledges any facts given that discredit her posts
--Continually asks for “proof” while providing none herself when asked
--picks out “worse case scenarios” and incites fear when possible to support theory, using “what ifs” and often using children or other emotional issues to make a point
--tries to show how immature others are and how she is the injured, but righteous party [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
--looks for HOT BUTTONS

By Hot Button, I mean looks for posters who might respond to an insult or emotional issue. For example, in a thread about Social Security, the Op started out complaining that he had to pay for old people’s social security, but would never see a dime of it. Plus old people lived in the most prosperous times, and are responsible for the mess we are in. He ends saying old people who lived in these times and didn’t save deserve to live with their kids or on the streets, and we should end SS now.

Imagine the responses? It was very emotional. So emotional that everyone was defending the above, and nobody ever thought to point out that our government stole the money workers and employers put in, instead of investing it, which would have actually resulted in an excess of funds. This OP did his job very well. He got many people to take sides, diverted attention from real issues, and used diversion techniques that everyone fell for.

So when you find yourself getting emotional, take a step back. Look for these techniques. Are you being led down the garden path? Have you abandoned logic and begun arguing unimportant issues that are not relative to the main point? Is the OP playing you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18786270


I just love how it's a "theory" when it's pro-CC but a "theory is proven fact(your words,see above) when it benefits you side of the argument. This was the only valid argument made and unfortunately happens all too often on GLP, theories are theories, until needed for evidence, where most will cite them as proven fact.
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they're for real then?


macgun
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Yes, you see it all the time on GLP. They are usually on threads, or start threads, on topics of GMO, Flouride, Gun Control, Global Warming,, Social Security, Biopharmaceuticals, etc.

These are topics in which the hiring agency wants to sway public opinion, spread disinformation, and discredit true information. Look up “astroturfing”.
Astroturfing Astroturfing refers to political, advertising or public relations campaigns that are designed to mask the sponsors of the message to give the appearance of coming from a disinterested, grassroots participant.
More at Wikipedia
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

A recent example:
Can we discuss Climate Change like Adults??
Thread: Can we discuss Climate Change like Adults??

The topic alone gives you a hint. The Thread OP is telling you ahead that if anyone disagrees or becomes “heated” (emotionally invested”, they are immature, and she also wants to discourage anyone from calling her out. Should anyone become emotional about the topic, she has set up the parameters and can use this to her advantage. “Can we do it, without bashing each other and calling everyone a Shill?

However, once the OP is called out, they will usually abandon the thread, seeing that they cannot accomplish their goals there. They will come back another day, perhaps on another topic. Notice she was recognized early on as a paid or volunteer shill, as the thread received 18 one-stars.

Throughout the thread example, people give detailed feed back which discredits the quotes the OP uses. Notice she never addresses valid points in the feedback, but uses several techniques to control the subject matter and defend her position. I’ve given some post links as examples, but you can find the rest yourself:
--uses the DIVERSION TATCTIC, changing the subject to something else (big Oil)
--picks out the weakest argument among many strong points and tears into that (highlights the other side only)
--subtly demeans or discredits the poster “WOW Issue, YOU GOT SOME ISSUES and one is Reading Comprehension” [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
--never acknowledges any facts given that discredit her posts
--Continually asks for “proof” while providing none herself when asked
--picks out “worse case scenarios” and incites fear when possible to support theory, using “what ifs” and often using children or other emotional issues to make a point
--tries to show how immature others are and how she is the injured, but righteous party [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
--looks for HOT BUTTONS

By Hot Button, I mean looks for posters who might respond to an insult or emotional issue. For example, in a thread about Social Security, the Op started out complaining that he had to pay for old people’s social security, but would never see a dime of it. Plus old people lived in the most prosperous times, and are responsible for the mess we are in. He ends saying old people who lived in these times and didn’t save deserve to live with their kids or on the streets, and we should end SS now.

Imagine the responses? It was very emotional. So emotional that everyone was defending the above, and nobody ever thought to point out that our government stole the money workers and employers put in, instead of investing it, which would have actually resulted in an excess of funds. This OP did his job very well. He got many people to take sides, diverted attention from real issues, and used diversion techniques that everyone fell for.

So when you find yourself getting emotional, take a step back. Look for these techniques. Are you being led down the garden path? Have you abandoned logic and begun arguing unimportant issues that are not relative to the main point? Is the OP playing you?
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bingo

good post, good examples of the disinfo/distraction technique

agree, thought the same about that climage change thread...
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Ever wonder why GLP embeds into all links from its site?
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I've been wondering this.
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[link to consciouslifenews.com]

Read the part where GLP was one of his targets..
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I always thought "Paid Shills" was a hoax. I joked about it once on GLP and someone left me a nasty bad karma!

I had no idea there were people who actually did this! Interesting!
 Quoting: nutmeg


Nope, shills are real. There are even shill bots.
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I just had to google "shill bot." lol
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There is in fact automated response AI in use here. It is generally repetitive and unintelligent personal attacks and you can get them to malfunction if you know how..
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I repeat, no rational person would oppose this thread vigorously EXCEPT a shill.

Of course shills exists. Governments and corporations need to "control" perception - of issues that are important to them. They can't just have people asking questions and developing rational answers to those questions through honest inquiry because the end result would be a fucking change so fast that they would lose their power.

So, anyone who denies shills exist is in fact a shill.

It doesn't really matter if the original story is actually a true account since it certainly describes what probably is the basic SOP for shills.
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lol
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I repeat, no rational person would oppose this thread vigorously EXCEPT a shill.

Of course shills exists. Governments and corporations need to "control" perception - of issues that are important to them. They can't just have people asking questions and developing rational answers to those questions through honest inquiry because the end result would be a fucking change so fast that they would lose their power.

So, anyone who denies shills exist is in fact a shill.

It doesn't really matter if the original story is actually a true account since it certainly describes what probably is the basic SOP for shills.
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lol
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Thanks.
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one would imagine you'd find tons of paid shills in the chemtrail threads.
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I repeat, no rational person would oppose this thread vigorously EXCEPT a shill.

Of course shills exists. Governments and corporations need to "control" perception - of issues that are important to them. They can't just have people asking questions and developing rational answers to those questions through honest inquiry because the end result would be a fucking change so fast that they would lose their power.

So, anyone who denies shills exist is in fact a shill.

It doesn't really matter if the original story is actually a true account since it certainly describes what probably is the basic SOP for shills.
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bump
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“hostile,” “friendly,” or “indifferent”

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Who would have the finances to pay someone to post on any forum? Sigh.

Rest assured if anyone thinks I'm getting paid to post here ... I do it of my own accord and my own agenda.
 Quoting: CE Aero


A question as simple as that takes not but a second of thought to render an answer. Maybe the people who print the money? Shill.
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I am not a god damn shill. fuck you.
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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“hostile,” “friendly,” or “indifferent”

thinking
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Nice use of graphic to attack a poster personally.
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Who would have the finances to pay someone to post on any forum? Sigh.

Rest assured if anyone thinks I'm getting paid to post here ... I do it of my own accord and my own agenda.
 Quoting: CE Aero


Corporations make BILLIONS of dollars in profits. Countries have TRILLION dollar budgets. Lots of black budget stuff. The oil companies have money coming out their ears and love to shill. So does the nuclear industry.
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Sounds pretty precision for a bunch of "billions and billions of dollars" to be given to a person or few people to post on random interwebs.
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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Who would have the finances to pay someone to post on any forum? Sigh.

Rest assured if anyone thinks I'm getting paid to post here ... I do it of my own accord and my own agenda.
 Quoting: CE Aero


A question as simple as that takes not but a second of thought to render an answer. Maybe the people who print the money? Shill.
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I am not a god damn shill. fuck you.
 Quoting: CE Aero


Then why would you ask such a blatantly obvious question?
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Who would have the finances to pay someone to post on any forum? Sigh.

Rest assured if anyone thinks I'm getting paid to post here ... I do it of my own accord and my own agenda.
 Quoting: CE Aero


A question as simple as that takes not but a second of thought to render an answer. Maybe the people who print the money? Shill.
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I am not a god damn shill. fuck you.
 Quoting: CE Aero


Then why would you ask such a blatantly obvious question?
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I should have known you would be a shill and just respond with "them."

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My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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Who would have the finances to pay someone to post on any forum? Sigh.

Rest assured if anyone thinks I'm getting paid to post here ... I do it of my own accord and my own agenda.
 Quoting: CE Aero


Corporations make BILLIONS of dollars in profits. Countries have TRILLION dollar budgets. Lots of black budget stuff. The oil companies have money coming out their ears and love to shill. So does the nuclear industry.
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Sounds pretty precision for a bunch of "billions and billions of dollars" to be given to a person or few people to post on random interwebs.
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When the opinions had on the random interwebs dictate people's support into playing into the schemes that make them BILLIONS AND BILLIONS yes, they must be manipulated. As the billions they put into shilling paves way for the continued revenue they bring in.

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