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Who Are the Parents of Sandy Hook Victims

 
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Hi Melissa
would you be willing to do a pod cast? there is a guy who has a show and would be interested in interviewing you.
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mb you are asking about lawyers and such, do you have anyone in mind? There are people looking at all the parents and anyone who gave interviews to the media dec 14th. lawyers and accountants? the united way and other entities are collecting millions from unsuspecting people and those disbursements need to be looked at but the most obvious, to me, would be the people directly involved...the parents and families who went on tv fake crying and asking for $$. Like they need it!! Most of these "victims" were very well off, living in half a million dollar houses etc. who sends money to poor murder victims families?

they just have to suck it up.
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Thanks for the timely reminder.
Since when does a family have a fundraiser for a murder victim? Even if they are a child.

It's like when Jon Benet was killed the public, the United Way or any other groups setting up fundraising for John and Patsy. Absurd notion. These were all well off people as you state.
So why did all these families have a registered charity
set up before the obits were even published?
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my question is why so many people have fallen for this utter bovine excrement? It is so blatantly ridiculous that I have a very hard time believing anyone would send money to a bunch of connecticut yankees that are obviously rolling in it compared to most people.
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my question is why so many people have fallen for this utter bovine excrement? It is so blatantly ridiculous that I have a very hard time believing anyone would send money to a bunch of connecticut yankees that are obviously rolling in it compared to most people.
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Exactly..I think today I watched the first Sandy Hook Video with real emotions..

I actually cried, but it is not over Sandy Hook.

Check this, and show this to all people who tell you Folks grieve differently:

Thread: The First Sandy Hook Video That Will Make You Cry
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veronique pozner used to go by "veronique haller" before marrying her husband. this document may list the same person
back when she was a diplomat of some sort for Switzerland
Here is the link to the diplomat pdf. scroll down to Switzerland. I also remember reading her husband pozner was a big banking executive.

[link to www.stopclustermunitions.org]

"Convention on Cluster Munitions Signing Conference
Oslo 2 – 4 December 2008
Final list of delegates

Ms Véronique HALLER, Deputy Head of section
Federal Department of Foreign Affairs
Ms Véronique HALLER, Deputy Head of section
Federal Department of Foreign Affairs"

here is a video on the subject showing that if this haller is the same person she has been pushing for weapons control worldwide for years
[link to www.youtube.com]

enjoy!
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veronique pozner used to go by "veronique haller" before marrying her husband. this document may list the same person
back when she was a diplomat of some sort for Switzerland
Here is the link to the diplomat pdf. scroll down to Switzerland. I also remember reading her husband pozner was a big banking executive.

[link to www.stopclustermunitions.org]

"Convention on Cluster Munitions Signing Conference
Oslo 2 – 4 December 2008
Final list of delegates

Ms Véronique HALLER, Deputy Head of section
Federal Department of Foreign Affairs
Ms Véronique HALLER, Deputy Head of section
Federal Department of Foreign Affairs"

here is a video on the subject showing that if this haller is the same person she has been pushing for weapons control worldwide for years
[link to www.youtube.com]

enjoy!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13598862


Thanks so much for adding this information in determining
who these people are, what they do, and why they were either chosen, or chose to take part in this massive charade.

The only thing I would comment on is in the video how distracting it is and curious that the man keeps pronouncing the name PONZER, when it is POZNER.

Now hopefully, it is just a deslexic quirk, and not an attempt to avoid naming specifically whom he is speaking of, ergo an out.
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Alright now, I just paused the video at 6:35.
This guy, stops, thinks and STILL refers to the
person as Veronica Ponzer!!

Is he being an asshole? Is he freaking retarded?
Is he yanking our chains? I am truly starting to
question his credibility.
I have read previously that Veronique Haller was born and
educated in Switzerland, so I will wait to see what the
great revelation is regarding Pappy Dirk.
But, the fellow lost so much credibility with his information in being so careless with the name pronunciation.
It goes beyond Dyslexia as an excuse.
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I like the comment under the video:


mattclarknyc 6 hours ago

In the endeavor of setting facts straight, I think it's important to get facts straight. I don't doubt that Noah Ponser isn't his real name. Ironically, I also don't doubt that it isn't Noah Posner, either. But please, at least get his supposed name right. Say it with me: Pos-ner. Pos-ner. Not Pon-ser. Pos-ner.
And then some conspiracy theorists wonder why people don't take them seriously...


Indeed it should be noted I also misspelled the alleged name in my previous post.

I keep getting Lenny Posner confused with Pozner, as in Vladimir.
Pozner being the more common spelling.
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BUMP to the great video
The Sandy Hook Conspiracy All roads lead to Rome and Israel (1:04:10) 9.3.13
[link to www.youtube.com]


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BUMP to the great video
The Sandy Hook Conspiracy All roads lead to Rome and Israel (1:04:10) 9.3.13
[link to www.youtube.com]


emanuelg (actually banned by GLP)
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If you'd bothered to read what I wrote concerning the video you'd find it is NOT a welcome addition to research
on this thread.

In addition to intentionally and misleadingly turning the name of Veronique Pozner into Veronica Ponser, he also
makes claims he can not really prove but of course leaves it to the viewer.

Concerning the ID of the twins...there is no definite link to the kids being Kevin and Laura. Kevin and Laura who??
More than likely blood relatives of Dirk Duytschaever, the STEP grandfather of allegedly Noah's.

Don't get me wrong, I do not believe the person we have been told is Noah Pozner (also listed in the media as Noah Posner), was killed at Sandy Hook. I don't know who that kid is.

So thanks for the BUMP earlier. But, don't bump for the video, it isn't great. It's seems to be either done by a
complete idiot, or a disinformation agent, take your pick.

It's no wonder it is being spammed all over.
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Grace McDonnell's creepy parents are on a bike ride to D.C. for - what else? - gun control!

[link to www.ctpost.com]
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Ok, I just don't want you guys to think I'm a fake. after I came on here last night I did a lot of research on transact..... it is a real company that sells more than printers. they sell any kind of technology for an office. but.... I decided to go ahead and Google and MapQuest each address given... a couple of the address is really do exist. but the address for Ben and Connecticut on Whitney ave.... this is supposedly the address of the tramsact on conneticut that ben works at.... that address does not exist!¡¡ it gets even better, steve demartino who also works for transact and is collecting money on behalf of ben.... for the Allison fundraiser. steve has been dead for quite some years. he died in a plane crash!
so then I took the address that was given for the transaction that ben where is it really works at in conneticut... I gave that address to a friend and she ran it...
all of the names that came up associated with that address, is accounting firms investment firms and law firms.... all currently share this address. what I did was instead of taking the street address given on transact, I use the address that is given on the transact site that was given for people to mail money to the fundraiser. the street address and the mailing address are 2 numbers off from each other. so the office for all the phones are being mailed to is a place that sells dental technology and dental supplies. Looks like they have mr. DeMartino set up and some part owner of that. it's called Forest dental. I got a lot of information last night I have to reread this to make sure I put everything I'm here. you will not be able to find me on Facebook right nowthe email I gave you guys is correct. I posted my findings on Facebook last night and my account was disabled. so I'm pretty sure I'm on the right half of the truth on this particular person. I had nothing offensive on my counter was no reason for my account to be disabled.
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Also really weird is the fact that there is another Stephen DeMartino listed as a Political Operative and is from North Haven, Connecticut.. [link to www.linkedin.com] ......His picture is nothing like the Steven A. DeMartino picture on the Transact page, though... [link to www.transact-tech.com]

While North Haven and Sandy Hook are 11 hours away from each other, North Haven is taking up donations for Sandy Hook... [link to www.town.north-haven.ct.us]

Maybe because June Pinto(the grandmother to Jack Pinto) is "a longtime teacher at North Haven High School". [link to www.myrecordjournal.com]

This probably didn't help....but I thought I'd throw it out there....

Oh and one more thing...I've not read all the pages in this thread yet, so it may be further on, but this was also weird.... Noah Ponzer’s “grandmother” is BIG in the UNITED NATIONS….hmmmm….what’s the chance of this? Right after Sandy Hook, the family(“grandmother in the UN, lawyer uncle who defended the Holy See in a huge pedophile case)had ready to go gun-ban legislation....
also, whatever it may mean, veronica ponzer's children in her Meetup account look nothing like Noah Pozner...go here and click on the three uploaded pictures......... [link to www.meetup.com]
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Oh and one more thing...I've not read all the pages in this thread yet, so it may be further on, but this was also weird.... Noah Ponzer’s “grandmother” is BIG in the UNITED NATIONS….hmmmm….what’s the chance of this? Right after Sandy Hook, the family(“grandmother in the UN, lawyer uncle who defended the Holy See in a huge pedophile case)had ready to go gun-ban legislation....
also, whatever it may mean, veronica ponzer's children in her Meetup account look nothing like Noah Pozner...go here and click on the three uploaded pictures......... [link to www.meetup.com]


Oh, and here is the death listing of a Steven Demartino.... [link to www.asprs.org]
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Last night I discovered that Wen C. Hsu is a female, so NOT
Madeleine Hsu's father.

Then I went searching. I could not find a real obituary for her. Just anecdotal empty paragraphs.

No info on who she was allegedly survived by as far as parents and younger sister. I found an address for the only Hsu's on Old Green Rd. but on Spokeo there was no cross-referencing that any Hsu's lived on the street.

Does anybody have any real info on Madeleine Hsu?
Wen C. Hsu who as I said lives in Sandy Hook is an
emergency doctor at Danbury Hospital.
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Ok, I just don't want you guys to think I'm a fake. after I came on here last night I did a lot of research on transact..... it is a real company that sells more than printers. they sell any kind of technology for an office. but.... I decided to go ahead and Google and MapQuest each address given... a couple of the address is really do exist. but the address for Ben and Connecticut on Whitney ave.... this is supposedly the address of the tramsact on conneticut that ben works at.... that address does not exist!¡¡ it gets even better, steve demartino who also works for transact and is collecting money on behalf of ben.... for the Allison fundraiser. steve has been dead for quite some years. he died in a plane crash!
so then I took the address that was given for the transaction that ben where is it really works at in conneticut... I gave that address to a friend and she ran it...
all of the names that came up associated with that address, is accounting firms investment firms and law firms.... all currently share this address. what I did was instead of taking the street address given on transact, I use the address that is given on the transact site that was given for people to mail money to the fundraiser. the street address and the mailing address are 2 numbers off from each other. so the office for all the phones are being mailed to is a place that sells dental technology and dental supplies. Looks like they have mr. DeMartino set up and some part owner of that. it's called Forest dental. I got a lot of information last night I have to reread this to make sure I put everything I'm here. you will not be able to find me on Facebook right nowthe email I gave you guys is correct. I posted my findings on Facebook last night and my account was disabled. so I'm pretty sure I'm on the right half of the truth on this particular person. I had nothing offensive on my counter was no reason for my account to be disabled.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5878134


Also really weird is the fact that there is another Stephen DeMartino listed as a Political Operative and is from North Haven, Connecticut.. [link to www.linkedin.com] ......His picture is nothing like the Steven A. DeMartino picture on the Transact page, though... [link to www.transact-tech.com]

While North Haven and Sandy Hook are 11 hours away from each other, North Haven is taking up donations for Sandy Hook... [link to www.town.north-haven.ct.us]

Maybe because June Pinto(the grandmother to Jack Pinto) is "a longtime teacher at North Haven High School". [link to www.myrecordjournal.com]

This probably didn't help....but I thought I'd throw it out there....

Oh and one more thing...I've not read all the pages in this thread yet, so it may be further on, but this was also weird.... Noah Ponzer’s “grandmother” is BIG in the UNITED NATIONS….hmmmm….what’s the chance of this? Right after Sandy Hook, the family(“grandmother in the UN, lawyer uncle who defended the Holy See in a huge pedophile case)had ready to go gun-ban legislation....
also, whatever it may mean, veronica ponzer's children in her Meetup account look nothing like Noah Pozner...go here and click on the three uploaded pictures......... [link to www.meetup.com]
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You know what's weird to me? All the people who suddenly
refer to Veronique Pozner as Veronica Ponzer.

Are you one of the ignorant kool-aid drinkers who watched the video All Roads Lead to...?
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You know what's weird to me? All the people who suddenly
refer to Veronique Pozner as Veronica Ponzer.

Are you one of the ignorant kool-aid drinkers who watched the video All Roads Lead to...?



Well, as someone who is working on her Doctorate degree with multiple college degrees and National Board Certification, I've been taught to read it all, and sift through the crap. WOW, do you sound like a liberal with the anger issues.... you're focusing on that one name without addressing why the children are not the same in her meet up account(and the woman IS Ponzer) and why her MOTHER IS big in the UN....etc. etc. etc.

I'll have none of YOUR koolaid, I prefer flouride-free water. Cheers! ;D
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You know what's weird to me? All the people who suddenly
refer to Veronique Pozner as Veronica Ponzer.

Are you one of the ignorant kool-aid drinkers who watched the video All Roads Lead to...?



Well, as someone who is working on her Doctorate degree with multiple college degrees and National Board Certification, I've been taught to read it all, and sift through the crap. WOW, do you sound like a liberal with the anger issues.... you're focusing on that one name without addressing why the children are not the same in her meet up account(and the woman IS Ponzer) and why her MOTHER IS big in the UN....etc. etc. etc.

I'll have none of YOUR koolaid, I prefer flouride-free water. Cheers! ;D


Might I recommend remedial English to you?
POZNER not Ponzer. You did it again.

You sound like an idiot period if you still think in terms
of liberal and conservative when both stripes reek of corruption.

Her mother isn't big in the UN. Veronique Pozner is listed as a Swiss Embassy employee on gun control.
Her mother, is the founder and CEO of Writeword International.

[link to businessprofiles.com]

Now the cover story:
[link to writewordinternational.com]


I know who you are, just not your name. You are the wife of the videomaker of All Roads Lead to Israel and Rome who insist on salting bad info in with good in a disinformation campaign.

I told you I would call you out if you make part 2 and it
is as grossly in error as the last one.
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Might I recommend remedial English to you?
POZNER not Ponzer. You did it again.

You sound like an idiot period if you still think in terms
of liberal and conservative when both stripes reek of corruption.

Her mother isn't big in the UN. Veronique Pozner is listed as a Swiss Embassy employee on gun control.
Her mother, is the founder and CEO of Writeword International.

[link to businessprofiles.com]

Now the cover story:
[link to writewordinternational.com]


I know who you are, just not your name. You are the wife of the videomaker of All Roads Lead to Israel and Rome who insist on salting bad info in with good in a disinformation campaign.

I told you I would call you out if you make part 2 and it
is as grossly in error as the last one.


HILARIOUS! I'm the one posting my NAME, and NOT under ANONYMOUSe COWARD(I meant to add the "e" by the way ;). :P I am NOT ANYONE'S wife but my husband's and I can ASSURE you he's NOT the maker of this video. oh my gosh! Hilarious...and hilarious that you say I need to learn English over a person's name. THANK you for the laugh. I REALLY needed that. LOLOLOLOL

As far as the "You sound like an idiot period if you still think in terms of liberal and conservative when both stripes reek of corruption", oh, trust me, I know BOTH PARTIES are corrupt, *exasperated* THAT'S why I said "LIBERAL and CONSERVATIVE". Are YOU a governmental troll, come here to name call and attack? If so, goodbye. If not, all I'm doing is trying to explore all possible avenues, and although you viciously attacked my name, character, AND intelligence, I would welcome a friendship with you via email or FB. All I am trying to do is find the truth. :(
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MADELINE HSU - smoking child.

Try searching for Madeline's parents. Good luck. Apparently they didn't want to talk about how wonderful the child is, they left it for neighbor Karen Dryer. If you look on the google map. Karen does live next to a John Hsu.

But why would Madeline have her dads name not her mom
Donna A Arnold
Home (203) 270-3305
35 Narragansett Trl
Sandy Hook, CT 06482-1147

The only person that even validates Madeline Hsu existed is Karen.
Karen told a story about her Psychic son who went to the school to a blog about hollywood. Why a hollywood celeb blog?
Maybe because this is a hollywood production?
Karen N Dryer
Home (203) 364-9277
2 Moccasin Trl
Sandy Hook, CT 06482-1142


[link to hollywoodlife.com]

Karen Dryer‘s worst nightmare started to unravel when her young son Logan Dryer, 5, became so anxiety ridden when he went to kindergarten at Sandy Hook Elementary School that she decided to pull him out of school just two weeks before the deadly massacre.

Like any parent, Karen could not understand why her usually happy, healthy son Logan all of a sudden started having panic attacks while in school. Little did she know, that like her own late mother, her son had the gift to foresee the future.

“I remember the principal, Dawn Hochsprung, getting on her knees and saying to Logan,’We love you and this is a wonderful place.’ Logan screamed back saying, ‘No, no! It’s not a safe place. I am scared.’ Logan’s doctor suggested that we take him out of school for a couple of weeks and home school him. So we had a tutor come in once a day for an hour and we would visit the school once a week so he could see his friends and teachers. But whenever we visited the school, he would start shaking and trembling. He would cry and he wouldn’t open his eyes,” said Karen.

Karen says Logan is happy in the new school. Several things don’t sit quite right with this story. There is NO indication that he is psychic. Kids have many many reasons why they feel uncomfortable in Kindergarten, even after first appearing to be OK. Then we have the Mom recollecting the stories after something tragic has happened. Memory is a very malleable and slippery thing. Past memories can be colored by current events. One can’t conclude that this boy would have been hurt or killed had he been in school. Circumstances did come together to allow him to avoid going through such an event but it does not provide any evidence that he has the ability to foresee the future.
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MADELINE HSU - smoking child.

Try searching for Madeline's parents. Good luck. Apparently they didn't want to talk about how wonderful the child is, they left it for neighbor Karen Dryer. If you look on the google map. Karen does live next to a John Hsu.

But why would Madeline have her dads name not her mom
Donna A Arnold
Home (203) 270-3305
35 Narragansett Trl
Sandy Hook, CT 06482-1147

The only person that even validates Madeline Hsu existed is Karen.
Karen told a story about her Psychic son who went to the school to a blog about hollywood. Why a hollywood celeb blog?
Maybe because this is a hollywood production?
Karen N Dryer
Home (203) 364-9277
2 Moccasin Trl
Sandy Hook, CT 06482-1142


[link to hollywoodlife.com]

Karen Dryer‘s worst nightmare started to unravel when her young son Logan Dryer, 5, became so anxiety ridden when he went to kindergarten at Sandy Hook Elementary School that she decided to pull him out of school just two weeks before the deadly massacre.

Like any parent, Karen could not understand why her usually happy, healthy son Logan all of a sudden started having panic attacks while in school. Little did she know, that like her own late mother, her son had the gift to foresee the future.

“I remember the principal, Dawn Hochsprung, getting on her knees and saying to Logan,’We love you and this is a wonderful place.’ Logan screamed back saying, ‘No, no! It’s not a safe place. I am scared.’ Logan’s doctor suggested that we take him out of school for a couple of weeks and home school him. So we had a tutor come in once a day for an hour and we would visit the school once a week so he could see his friends and teachers. But whenever we visited the school, he would start shaking and trembling. He would cry and he wouldn’t open his eyes,” said Karen.

Karen says Logan is happy in the new school. Several things don’t sit quite right with this story. There is NO indication that he is psychic. Kids have many many reasons why they feel uncomfortable in Kindergarten, even after first appearing to be OK. Then we have the Mom recollecting the stories after something tragic has happened. Memory is a very malleable and slippery thing. Past memories can be colored by current events. One can’t conclude that this boy would have been hurt or killed had he been in school. Circumstances did come together to allow him to avoid going through such an event but it does not provide any evidence that he has the ability to foresee the future.
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Donna goes by both Donna Arnold and Donna Hsu. John goes by both John and Long-Fong (Hsu). He's a bigwig in high finance (casualty insurance prediction). Three daughters.

It seems to me they are real people, but definitely very quiet. I don't blame them - seems like they've taken the smart route, staying almost completely under the radar.
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He's Taiwanese, btw, not mainland Chinese.
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MADELINE HSU - smoking child.

Try searching for Madeline's parents. Good luck. Apparently they didn't want to talk about how wonderful the child is, they left it for neighbor Karen Dryer. If you look on the google map. Karen does live next to a John Hsu.

But why would Madeline have her dads name not her mom
Donna A Arnold
Home (203) 270-3305
35 Narragansett Trl
Sandy Hook, CT 06482-1147

The only person that even validates Madeline Hsu existed is Karen.
Karen told a story about her Psychic son who went to the school to a blog about hollywood. Why a hollywood celeb blog?
Maybe because this is a hollywood production?
Karen N Dryer
Home (203) 364-9277
2 Moccasin Trl
Sandy Hook, CT 06482-1142


[link to hollywoodlife.com]

Karen Dryer‘s worst nightmare started to unravel when her young son Logan Dryer, 5, became so anxiety ridden when he went to kindergarten at Sandy Hook Elementary School that she decided to pull him out of school just two weeks before the deadly massacre.

Like any parent, Karen could not understand why her usually happy, healthy son Logan all of a sudden started having panic attacks while in school. Little did she know, that like her own late mother, her son had the gift to foresee the future.

“I remember the principal, Dawn Hochsprung, getting on her knees and saying to Logan,’We love you and this is a wonderful place.’ Logan screamed back saying, ‘No, no! It’s not a safe place. I am scared.’ Logan’s doctor suggested that we take him out of school for a couple of weeks and home school him. So we had a tutor come in once a day for an hour and we would visit the school once a week so he could see his friends and teachers. But whenever we visited the school, he would start shaking and trembling. He would cry and he wouldn’t open his eyes,” said Karen.

Karen says Logan is happy in the new school. Several things don’t sit quite right with this story. There is NO indication that he is psychic. Kids have many many reasons why they feel uncomfortable in Kindergarten, even after first appearing to be OK. Then we have the Mom recollecting the stories after something tragic has happened. Memory is a very malleable and slippery thing. Past memories can be colored by current events. One can’t conclude that this boy would have been hurt or killed had he been in school. Circumstances did come together to allow him to avoid going through such an event but it does not provide any evidence that he has the ability to foresee the future.
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I don't know what you mean about the Mom's name vs. Dad's name. I'll look up John Hsu, thanks!

Yes, every "obit" was nothing of the kind. No survivors listed, no family listed. Indeed we just have Karen's words to go on and some lame anecdotal story.

I'm glad you reminded me about that story. It is awefully telling that she went to some offbeat Hollywood website to relay this tidbit to.
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Actors.


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Self-Evident and undeniable. Requires no interpretation.
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MADELINE HSU - smoking child.

Try searching for Madeline's parents. Good luck. Apparently they didn't want to talk about how wonderful the child is, they left it for neighbor Karen Dryer. If you look on the google map. Karen does live next to a John Hsu.

But why would Madeline have her dads name not her mom
Donna A Arnold
Home (203) 270-3305
35 Narragansett Trl
Sandy Hook, CT 06482-1147

The only person that even validates Madeline Hsu existed is Karen.
Karen told a story about her Psychic son who went to the school to a blog about hollywood. Why a hollywood celeb blog?
Maybe because this is a hollywood production?
Karen N Dryer
Home (203) 364-9277
2 Moccasin Trl
Sandy Hook, CT 06482-1142


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Karen Dryer‘s worst nightmare started to unravel when her young son Logan Dryer, 5, became so anxiety ridden when he went to kindergarten at Sandy Hook Elementary School that she decided to pull him out of school just two weeks before the deadly massacre.

Like any parent, Karen could not understand why her usually happy, healthy son Logan all of a sudden started having panic attacks while in school. Little did she know, that like her own late mother, her son had the gift to foresee the future.

“I remember the principal, Dawn Hochsprung, getting on her knees and saying to Logan,’We love you and this is a wonderful place.’ Logan screamed back saying, ‘No, no! It’s not a safe place. I am scared.’ Logan’s doctor suggested that we take him out of school for a couple of weeks and home school him. So we had a tutor come in once a day for an hour and we would visit the school once a week so he could see his friends and teachers. But whenever we visited the school, he would start shaking and trembling. He would cry and he wouldn’t open his eyes,” said Karen.

Karen says Logan is happy in the new school. Several things don’t sit quite right with this story. There is NO indication that he is psychic. Kids have many many reasons why they feel uncomfortable in Kindergarten, even after first appearing to be OK. Then we have the Mom recollecting the stories after something tragic has happened. Memory is a very malleable and slippery thing. Past memories can be colored by current events. One can’t conclude that this boy would have been hurt or killed had he been in school. Circumstances did come together to allow him to avoid going through such an event but it does not provide any evidence that he has the ability to foresee the future.
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Donna goes by both Donna Arnold and Donna Hsu. John goes by both John and Long-Fong (Hsu). He's a bigwig in high finance (casualty insurance prediction). Three daughters.

It seems to me they are real people, but definitely very quiet. I don't blame them - seems like they've taken the smart route, staying almost completely under the radar.
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They might well be real people. But, if you search the names not a single link to Sandy Hook comes up.

They appear to be living in South Carolina now. But, when they were allegedly living in Newtown, was that neighborhood even zoned for Sandy Hook? It would seem like there were other elementary schools in Newtown she/they would have attended.

So who gave the media an alleged photo of Madeliene?
The ever so private people just dropped it off without a word?
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Attention, please do not post videos in this thread.
I haven't seen any that was not a mix of correct info
liberally seasoned with unsupportable speculation and
out and out disinformation.

Thank you.

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