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We don't need to be sad....we need to be MAD! Mad as HELL!
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I'd love to agree with you, but look at the state of society today...like I said, it makes me sad.

I was flipping through tv last night and a few nights ago, usually I don't watch trash cause I can't stand it but I happened to watch some of those reality shows. Honey Boo Boo, Dance Moms, and then I guess I happened to catch a little of that Snooki show with her friend? WOW! This is what a lot of people watch? This is what appeals to a lot of people in the USA today I guess.
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I totally agree....it is sad. The majority of the people are numb from the neck up. Most people I talk to never want to discuss important issues. They side step the important stuff and focus on Honey Boo, Snooki and such (which I have absolutely no idea who they are, lol).

But, don't lose hope my dear....after all, it only took 3% of the population to kick the Brits out!
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3% equals 10 million now.
 Quoting: Hardwired


So, you think that isn't enough? 10 million armed people are by far the largest military on the planet. With 80 million gun owners in the US, that would be 1 out of 8 standing against this.
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Do you know what abominable means? Smelly. The thing or species in question...stinks. It causes moral revulsion. It is detestable.

Do you know what corruption really means? It means a thing or species is rotting. The word corpus means “body”. In this case the body is decaying; putrefying like a corpse.

These politicians are abominable. They are corruption itself.


The USA is a Republic (not a democracy which is a different form of government which the USA doesn't have). We could choose to have a democracy, but right now we have a Republic. A republic is a representative government that is governed by a Constitution which represents the law of the land. In a Republic, the government acknowledges that people have inerrant rights. Power doesn't come from the government. It is given at birth by being a human being.

We are a constitutional republic. That is not debatable but history and fact.

In such a form of government, the People as a whole (corpus) are the sovereign rulers of the land...not the President.
The President is an elected official who acts as an authority and is an administrator. They act in an executive capacity.

In a constitutional republic, the unalienable rights (incapable of being repudiated or transferred to another) of the People (sovereign) cannot be voted away by a majority of voters. That form of government is called a democracy.

In a democracy, the majority of voters may decide what is right. Such forms of government can cause the minority to lose even more power than they minimally have.

The role of the executive in a constitutional republic is to act as a head of State such that foreign policy can be proposed and offered to other nations. The executive act as the commander-in-chief of the armed forces. They execute the instructions of the legislative branch (Congress which makes law). They veto laws which are unconstitutional or which they disagree with as being lawful. They authorize spending. They appoint members of their cabinet or to the judiciary (Federal and Supreme Court). They may on rare occasions pardon someone who has been accused, tried, and then institutionalized in a penitentiary.

They don't make laws. They don't change the Constitution. They don't change the Bill of Rights. While a law can be put forth, and they may support it, they cannot create laws. They may wish to amend the Constitution, but they have no power to do so. They can advise that such actions would be prudent in their executive role. They may not like the Bill of Rights or the interpretation of the Bill of Rights, but it is our most sacred document of the inalienable inherent rights of the Sovereign People of the USA.

As soon as the Constitution was formed, the early political leaders and people saw that there needed to be special amendments to the Constitution. They were the first ten.
“They guarantee a number of personal freedoms, limit the government's power in judicial and other proceedings, and reserve some powers to the states and the public. While originally the amendments applied only to the federal government, most of their provisions have since been held to apply to the states by way of the Fourteenth Amendment. “
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“THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.”

They wanted to make certain that the Federal government didn't abuse its power to restrict the inalienable inherent natural rights of the People.

But they made a provision such that amendments could be made since they couldn't foresee the future. They were not prophets.

Almost all of the Bill of Rights language is about what Congress shall NOT do. It limits the power of the government.

Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

If you don't like it, then if you used the legal framework to amend the Constitution, then you could change it. You could overthrow the government. It doesn't matter if you don't like it.

It's not about liking or disliking. It's about Law creating a framework to protect the people of the USA from a hostile federal government abusing its power.

The executive branch has no powers specifically authorized by the Constitution to enact laws. It most specifically doesn't have power to amend the Constitution.
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People forget Hitler took over using the laws, not breaking them. And his big crutch were executive orders.

Anybody who tries to take American guns under the decree of an executive order, should be labeled a domestic enemy.
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His big crutch was the complacence of the populace. Many hated the man and stood by doing nothing as he marauded across Europe.

It wasn't until he crossed the Brits and the Russians that the vicious cock fight we called World War II ensued.
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Germans loved Hitler.
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No they didn't. They were terrified of him. What planet are you from.
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Notice how the libs are having wet orgasms over gun control?

This time four years ago they were spending nearly a trillion and going for socialized medicine.

Guns is their lead topic for this administration.

Whats next? 401K confiscation and redistribution?
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yep.

but only after they take the guns.
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yes to both of your posts. thumbs and again i say the next two years will se this creep consolidating his new powers. i ask are there any decent democrats out there who will stand for the constitution over party???
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People forget Hitler took over using the laws, not breaking them. And his big crutch were executive orders.

Anybody who tries to take American guns under the decree of an executive order, should be labeled a domestic enemy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19992683


His big crutch was the complacence of the populace. Many hated the man and stood by doing nothing as he marauded across Europe.

It wasn't until he crossed the Brits and the Russians that the vicious cock fight we called World War II ensued.
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Germans loved Hitler.
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No they didn't. They were terrified of him. What planet are you from.
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Thats why 90% of Saarlanders voted to join Germany in 1935, right?

[link to www.time.com]
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Notice how the libs are having wet orgasms over gun control?

This time four years ago they were spending nearly a trillion and going for socialized medicine.

Guns is their lead topic for this administration.

Whats next? 401K confiscation and redistribution?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30245711


And who GIVES A FUCK? You are better than a liberal, why?
What is your non-liberal ass doing about the whole situation?
Has whining on the internet helped you in the past?
Newsflash - everyone is getting fucked over and doing the fucking. Some call themselves democrats, some republicans some liberal some conservative. But if you are a politician you are corrupt. If you are still on the internet spouting off about who is to blame for it instead of stating what to do about it - YOU are as big a part of the problem.
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Yep! I nailed that one!banana2 I told you it was coming!

Just last week I predicted that our "king" would use an executive order for gun control!
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Notice how the libs are having wet orgasms over gun control?

This time four years ago they were spending nearly a trillion and going for socialized medicine.

Guns is their lead topic for this administration.

Whats next? 401K confiscation and redistribution?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30245711


And who GIVES A FUCK? You are better than a liberal, why?
What is your non-liberal ass doing about the whole situation?
Has whining on the internet helped you in the past?
Newsflash - everyone is getting fucked over and doing the fucking. Some call themselves democrats, some republicans some liberal some conservative. But if you are a politician you are corrupt. If you are still on the internet spouting off about who is to blame for it instead of stating what to do about it - YOU are as big a part of the problem.
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To continue on with my little outburst...
how is being a republican or conservative DOING anything?
The majority of people you talk to are NOT liberal. Do NOT support this administration anymore than they supported the last ones. Be they repubs or demos/conservative or liberals. Most everyday average Americans know they are getting fucked by WHOEVER is in office on either side from both sides, from ALL sides.
Here is the bottom line: ALL average, middle-class income working Americans are taking in the ass from several different dicks. So NOW WHAT?
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ALL politicians in ANY authority position will fuck you. We ALL know this by now. So NOW WHAT?
Illegals? Gay marriage? Welfare? Free phones? Tax breaks? Phony fiscal cliffs? Staged events? Attacks on liberties and freedoms? ALL guilty and complicit. Period. So NOW WHAT?
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I believe that this administration is actually trying to start a revolution in this country, does that tell you anything?

Americans will fight.
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You built it Bush neocons.

We "troofers" warned you.

Homeland security was never for islamist.

Homeland security and the patriot act was and IS for you.


Troofers, right again.
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yes, right on---and all these wind bags raging about obama signing executive orders fell right in line with the bush killers and their "reichstag decrees" i.e., patriot act and etc.

the folks on this thread making all the noise will quickly acquiesce to the new rules when threatened with: bank account seizure, credit card revocation, home mortgage cancellation, denial of drivers license and etc.

the same mind set flying the flags during 911 will comply to the new exec orders!
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This is correct.

This will also be the ultimate method of enforcement.

Pioneered using a complicit mafia governance and perfected throughout the "war on drugs", the major cracks in the system have been ironed out.

There will be no escaping its perfection in execution.
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Hard to grand stand on an executive order that works against the same document that his own job was contrived from.

Hell, he might as well write an executive order that sends all of the tax money directly into his bank account.

These people are out of control.
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if they are willing to spend out of control and be re-elected, then why not be out of control? what controling authority do they have? and in a few years they will own the supreme court

incoming....
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Who is "they" davvi? "They" that did 911 then built the security state and destroyed the constitution building every precedent obaaaaama is working from?

Take your non America first fucking ass to israel mother fucker.
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Straight from the horse mouth.

Jewish politicians lead chorus calling for tighter gun law

[link to www.timesofisrael.com]
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Yes. It's ALWAYS Tribesters that want to ban guns, and create a nation of terrorized serfs.

ALWAYS!

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I believe that this administration is actually trying to start a revolution in this country, does that tell you anything?

Americans will fight.
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Yeah it tells me a lot. Because the politicians in office before this guy were complicit in doing the same to lead up to it. Getting the right guy at the right time. How do you explain the judicial branch, executive branch, congress, the house, the senate...ALL being complicit? There are no longer - and have not been for a long time - any "checks and balances". They are ALL - every branch of government, every affiliation, be it repub or dems, they are ALL complicit. Period. Anyone who does not know this is a waste of space. Most DO know it. So what now? What is the next step besides pointing fingers on the internet?
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"The president is going to act. There are executives orders -- executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and all the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action, we believe is required."

More and video at [link to www.realclearpolitics.com]
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And this surprises you? After the renewal of the Patriot Act & the passing of NDAA, Obama can change America with a swift stroke of a pen.

Yes, it's true...the pen IS mightier than the sword! But, we'll have to find out if that pen can hold it's own against the millions of bullets from the American People.

IMHO, it far past the time "We The People" need to rise up and put an end to this mess. Be it by pen or by gun, this shit must end!
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Man I wish this would happen. However, it won't. People are too attached to entitlements to sacrifice anything, sadly.
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Yes Bush started this, but people this is part of the Plan.. the One world Government plan..
Once again its IN the BIBLE!!!!!!!

Go ahead keep telling us how the Bible isnt true.. go ahead.
------WRONG... its in there..
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I believe that this administration is actually trying to start a revolution in this country, does that tell you anything?

Americans will fight.
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It sure is feeling that way. It seems they want someone to cast the first stone. I hope that we stand strong and stare tyranny in the eye and do not blink.

Let them cast the first stone....which I hope will awaken the sleeping giant....
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Our STATE governments need to make a stand and granny the Federalies A-HOLES
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I believe that this administration is actually trying to start a revolution in this country, does that tell you anything?

Americans will fight.
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It sure is feeling that way. It seems they want someone to cast the first stone. I hope that we stand strong and stare tyranny in the eye and do not blink.

Let them cast the first stone....which I hope will awaken the sleeping giant....
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This guy said he will cast it:
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"The president is going to act. There are executives orders -- executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and all the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action, we believe is required."

More and video at [link to www.realclearpolitics.com]
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Not according to this! [link to www.fourwinds10.net]
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I believe that this administration is actually trying to start a revolution in this country, does that tell you anything?

Americans will fight.
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Americans on the whole are perfectly happy with their internet outlet of public speech, television entertainment, automobiles, the latest phone, cheap electronic gadgets, warmth in the winter, cooling in the summer, electricity, running potable water, sanitation, relative safety, cheap fuel, cheap food, cheap clothes, machine washer/drier, and the trappings of a modern kitchen.

Americans will risk none of this on any "political issues" when it is made clear that it becomes an all or nothing proposition. Comply and live in relative comfort. Do not, and the nightmare for your families will begin the day YOU decide to fight. Their livelihood and comforts will disappear... as will your freedom.

Choose wisely.
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I believe that this administration is actually trying to start a revolution in this country, does that tell you anything?

Americans will fight.
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It sure is feeling that way. It seems they want someone to cast the first stone. I hope that we stand strong and stare tyranny in the eye and do not blink.

Let them cast the first stone....which I hope will awaken the sleeping giant....
 Quoting: ohnonotagain


This guy said he will cast it:

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Yeah right, we need him leading us...NOT! The moron doesn't even know the difference between a Civil War & a Revolution!

Keep your day job baldy....or at the very least, your low pay grade!

Nice ending....I'm gonna start killing people, effin jackwagon! Is he related to the bullhorn guy? LOL!
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husband and FIL went gun hunting last weekend (Michigan). The gun show had a 300 yard long line, approx. wait was 2 hours to get in.

they instead went to a gun shop, people were crawling all over each other in that small shop to get in line and buy something.

i don't think America is going to take gun laws lieing down.
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I don't know if surprising would be the word...more like sad.
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We don't need to be sad....we need to be MAD! Mad as HELL!
 Quoting: ohnonotagain


I'd love to agree with you, but look at the state of society today...like I said, it makes me sad.

I was flipping through tv last night and a few nights ago, usually I don't watch trash cause I can't stand it but I happened to watch some of those reality shows. Honey Boo Boo, Dance Moms, and then I guess I happened to catch a little of that Snooki show with her friend? WOW! This is what a lot of people watch? This is what appeals to a lot of people in the USA today I guess.
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I totally agree....it is sad. The majority of the people are numb from the neck up. Most people I talk to never want to discuss important issues. They side step the important stuff and focus on Honey Boo, Snooki and such (which I have absolutely no idea who they are, lol).

But, don't lose hope my dear....after all, it only took 3% of the population to kick the Brits out!
 Quoting: ohnonotagain


Not everything about our history is openly discussed.

What many dont know is that we lost most of our independence back to England when they kicked our ass in the war of 1812...

This phoney-capitalist financial system that we are under is forced upon us by the British and American banking families.

In 1811, the US Congress decided not to renew the charter for the central National bank that was owned by the Rothschilds and associates. Upon hearing that America refused to renew the charter for his central bank (the equivalent of today's Federal Reserve), he was quoted as saying "Someone must teach those impudent Americans a lesson."

They then proceeded to burn down Wash, DC.

Fifty years later, the South revolted against unfair taxes levied against the southern US, the banking families once again funden Lincoln, who proceeded to kill over 600,000 Americans.

The charter that was signed after the War of 1812 lasted 100 years, then after the "Great Depression" (a crackdown of the 1% on the poor), Woodrow Wilson once again renewed the contract, this time disguised as the "Federal Reserve Act".


This charter secretly ran out after 100 years during December of 2011, and was renewed once again, along with tight measures against our freedoms with the NDAA Act.

Obama, just like all American presidents, is an agent of the mainly international banking families. This is why both he and the Bush family are both related to the British royalty... because all of the banking families are married into one another...



Anyway, I came across this conclusion after researching the War of 1812. I was especially interested in why the war is never talked about, nor taught about at school. It is because researching what happened after our 1776 revolution was crushed leads directly to a truth that the elite would rather remain secret.
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Wow, Check out the headline on Drudge report right now. Don't blink you might miss it.

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I believe that this administration is actually trying to start a revolution in this country, does that tell you anything?

Americans will fight.
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BINGO! IMO There has been one hell of a robbery.
The savings and loan scandal of the 80's resulted in over 900 CONVICTONS!
Libor and massive amounts of missing gold and not one prosecution?how does one coverup the greatest theft in the earths history,the 43 trillon dollar lawsuit by the spira group.
what has puzzled me is how do they plan on getting away with it?
Always follow the money trail
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I believe that this administration is actually trying to start a revolution in this country, does that tell you anything?

Americans will fight.
 Quoting: PolarPrecursor


BINGO! IMO There has been one hell of a robbery.
The savings and loan scandal of the 80's resulted in over 900 CONVICTONS!
Libor and massive amounts of missing gold and not one prosecution?how does one coverup the greatest theft in the earths history,the 43 trillon dollar lawsuit by the spira group.
what has puzzled me is how do they plan on getting away with it?
Always follow the money trail
canoes4u
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B U L L S H I T.........!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Still it goes one. Nobody with any actual ideas WHAT to do. Pontificating. Accusing. Blaming. Of all the people on here who claim to be aware, claim to be current or former military, claim to know the laws and Constitution... where is the advice about what to do about it? What recourse? I'm not one claiming to know anything. Lots of you are. You are here day after day berating others for their inaction and stupidity and "sheepness" but WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST AS A COURSE OF CONSTRUCTIVE ACTION?". Put up or shut the fuck up already.
Stop your little daily threads about what is wrong with the "sheep". If you aren't a part of the solution your are part of the problem.
I freely admit I am part of the problem. I do not know what the fuck to do. I have asked repeatedly if anyone does. No answer.
I, at least do not post threads and comment as if i have the answers. I freely admit I don't. I'm not pretending to.
If people can't start talking about what to do about it and stop pretending to be in the know and above others - then fuck you all. fuck me and fuck you too. What now?
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Why do I feel like I'm living in the old East Germany or the old USSR?
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Same bullshit in a different packaging.
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What now?
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IMO lean back and watch it collapse.





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