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My cousin sent me this e-mail.




Do you have a gun in the house?

THIS IS GOOD TO KNOW!

When I had my gangrene gallbladder taken out and spent 10 days in the hospital. I had home nurse visits for two weeks and was asked if I had guns in the house. I respond that if I did I would not tell them. So the below has some merit.

FYI, I am passing this along... there are comments from two other people that have also been asked if they keep guns in the house. The nurse just kinda slipped it in along with all the other regular questions. I told her I refused to answer because it was against the law to ask.

Everyone, whether you have guns or not, should give a neutral answer so they have no idea who does and who doesn't. My doctor asked me if I had guns in my house and also if any were loaded. I, of course, answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against criminal attack.

The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.

Just passing this along for your information: I had to visit a doctor other than my regular doctor when my doctor was on vacation.. One of the questions on the form I had to fill out was: Do you have any guns in your house?? My answer was None of your damn business!!

So it is out there! It is either an insurance issue or government intervention. Either way, it is out there and the second the government gets into your medical records (as they want to under Obamacare) it will become a major issue and will ultimately result in lock and load!!

Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners... Thanks, from a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer: I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions: 1. Did I feel stressed? 2. Did I feel threatened? 3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

The nurse then informed me that if I had answered yes to any of the questions I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.



Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have? Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner, veteran or not, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED ! If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom. They are coming for us, so unless you're an ostrich, do not stick your head in the sand......
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wtf
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WTF indeed. They have been asking if we wear seat belts for years and that pissed me off, now this. These people are definitely out of control and gone beyond the limits we should except.
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wtf
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WTF indeed. They have been asking if we wear seat belts for years and that pissed me off, now this. These people are definitely out of control and gone beyond the limits we should except.
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that's why you don't tell them it is none of their business. you still make the list
Give them a warm and fuzzy answer.
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You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't
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wtf
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WTF indeed. They have been asking if we wear seat belts for years and that pissed me off, now this. These people are definitely out of control and gone beyond the limits we should except.
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that's why you don't tell them it is none of their business. you still make the list
Give them a warm and fuzzy answer.
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Exactly. LIE!

I hate guns Dr. and I would never allow one in my home.

Look appalled and offended that he even asked you.
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Who tells them the whole truth anyway?
I don't tell them every surgery I had at age 2 (can't remember anyway) or detail every time I ended up in the ER needing a few stitches.
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A few weeks ago my husband had to take me to the ER because I became very sick (influenza) while teaching class.

The ER nurse also asked questions about guns to which I replied, "no". I do not think it is anybody's business if I own firearms. She then went on to ask me if I was being threatened at home & if I could protect myself -- WTF???

I answered no on the threat question & on the one about defending myself I just gave her a goofy look -- I was still in my dobok & belt with 3 gold slashes emblazoned upon it -- duh!

I could have understood if I came in wearing street clothes with black eyes, broken nose, bruised ribs, etc., but the questions are very intrusive & it was obvious I had the FLU!
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Who tells them the whole truth anyway?
I don't tell them every surgery I had at age 2 (can't remember anyway) or detail every time I ended up in the ER needing a few stitches.
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I don't even admit to being a smoker.

Fuck him, lie.
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A few weeks ago my husband had to take me to the ER because I became very sick (influenza) while teaching class.

The ER nurse also asked questions about guns to which I replied, "no". I do not think it is anybody's business if I own firearms. She then went on to ask me if I was being threatened at home & if I could protect myself -- WTF???

I answered no on the threat question & on the one about defending myself I just gave her a goofy look -- I was still in my dobok & belt with 3 gold slashes emblazoned upon it -- duh!

I could have understood if I came in wearing street clothes with black eyes, broken nose, bruised ribs, etc., but the questions are very intrusive & it was obvious I had the FLU!
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


We are living under such a controlled situation, the government sees no reason to limit what can be imposed on the people. No real push back have they encountered, so nothing is off limits. The nurse thought perhaps you were dumb enough to be tricked into the answer she was after. Good for you to see thru her trickery. I don't even tell them if I wear seat belts or not, it's bullshit.
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Another one they like to ask when it involves the kiddies.

Are they all caught up on their vaccinations?

YEP!
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Who tells them the whole truth anyway?
I don't tell them every surgery I had at age 2 (can't remember anyway) or detail every time I ended up in the ER needing a few stitches.
 Quoting: Anti Vortex


I don't even admit to being a smoker.

Fuck him, lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31830776


Best answer, lie. If it doesn't directly relate to the reason you are seeking medical attention, LIE your ass off to them.
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Who tells them the whole truth anyway?
I don't tell them every surgery I had at age 2 (can't remember anyway) or detail every time I ended up in the ER needing a few stitches.
 Quoting: Anti Vortex


I don't even admit to being a smoker.

Fuck him, lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31830776


Best answer, lie. If it doesn't directly relate to the reason you are seeking medical attention, LIE your ass off to them.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Not a problem! thumbs
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A few weeks ago my husband had to take me to the ER because I became very sick (influenza) while teaching class.

The ER nurse also asked questions about guns to which I replied, "no". I do not think it is anybody's business if I own firearms. She then went on to ask me if I was being threatened at home & if I could protect myself -- WTF???

I answered no on the threat question & on the one about defending myself I just gave her a goofy look -- I was still in my dobok & belt with 3 gold slashes emblazoned upon it -- duh!

I could have understood if I came in wearing street clothes with black eyes, broken nose, bruised ribs, etc., but the questions are very intrusive & it was obvious I had the FLU!
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


WTF is going on, sandy hook is almost like a drama to get everybody to arm themselves. now the nurse question almost sounded like the government wanted to make sure people are able to protect themselves?

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Who tells them the whole truth anyway?
I don't tell them every surgery I had at age 2 (can't remember anyway) or detail every time I ended up in the ER needing a few stitches.
 Quoting: Anti Vortex


Exactly. When I go to a doctor, I am not going there to be data mined by a fed government agent, I am going there because I need medical attention. Lady Jane was interrogated not triage d.
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When phone or internet providers call and try to get me to switch to their company, I tell them I don't even own a phone...and then hang up :)
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Heterosexual pride!

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Take the 5th amendment :)
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Take the 5th amendment :)
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A few weeks ago my husband had to take me to the ER because I became very sick (influenza) while teaching class.

The ER nurse also asked questions about guns to which I replied, "no". I do not think it is anybody's business if I own firearms. She then went on to ask me if I was being threatened at home & if I could protect myself -- WTF???

I answered no on the threat question & on the one about defending myself I just gave her a goofy look -- I was still in my dobok & belt with 3 gold slashes emblazoned upon it -- duh!

I could have understood if I came in wearing street clothes with black eyes, broken nose, bruised ribs, etc., but the questions are very intrusive & it was obvious I had the FLU!
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


WTF is going on, sandy hook is almost like a drama to get everybody to arm themselves. now the nurse question almost sounded like the government wanted to make sure people are able to protect themselves?

gasp
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14443159


A "soft sell' to gently reel people in; get them to think they are disclosing in a safe, confidential environment when it is anything but?
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

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"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
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Who tells them the whole truth anyway?
I don't tell them every surgery I had at age 2 (can't remember anyway) or detail every time I ended up in the ER needing a few stitches.
 Quoting: Anti Vortex


I don't even admit to being a smoker.

Fuck him, lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31830776


Best answer, lie. If it doesn't directly relate to the reason you are seeking medical attention, LIE your ass off to them.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Just one more straw Desert Fox.

My textbook response is "my child lives in a VERY safe home", though I do understand that answer does not directly address the question, and they may likely continue the hounding.

Requiring me to lie means I must violate my religion - though we know "they" no longer regard any of that with validity.

Only under one condition has God accepted, condoned, or even encouraged such action:
"...but by great deception, thou shalt do war."

Where does that leave Christians?
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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When phone or internet providers call and try to get me to switch to their company, I tell them I don't even own a phone...and then hang up :)
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That is kinda original.
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Just one more straw Desert Fox.

My textbook response is "my child lives in a VERY safe home", though I do understand that answer does not directly address the question, and they may likely continue the hounding.

Requiring me to lie means I must violate my religion - though we know "they" no longer regard any of that with validity.

Only under one condition has God accepted, condoned, or even encouraged such action:
"...but by great deception, thou shalt do war."

Where does that leave Christians?
 Quoting: ClydeX


I think god will understand if you lie to a liar in order to protect yourself and family.
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When phone or internet providers call and try to get me to switch to their company, I tell them I don't even own a phone...and then hang up :)
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ROFL Froggie
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

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Who tells them the whole truth anyway?
I don't tell them every surgery I had at age 2 (can't remember anyway) or detail every time I ended up in the ER needing a few stitches.
 Quoting: Anti Vortex


I don't even admit to being a smoker.

Fuck him, lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31830776


Best answer, lie. If it doesn't directly relate to the reason you are seeking medical attention, LIE your ass off to them.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Just one more straw Desert Fox.

My textbook response is "my child lives in a VERY safe home", though I do understand that answer does not directly address the question, and they may likely continue the hounding.

Requiring me to lie means I must violate my religion - though we know "they" no longer regard any of that with validity.

Only under one condition has God accepted, condoned, or even encouraged such action:
"...but by great deception, thou shalt do war."

Where does that leave Christians?
 Quoting: ClydeX


As stated in a post above, Take the 5th amendment. No lie, just no answer.
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When phone or internet providers call and try to get me to switch to their company, I tell them I don't even own a phone...and then hang up :)
 Quoting: BRIEF


That is kinda original.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


It shuts them up fast and they don't call back...anytime someone makes an inappropriate statement or question I tell them something absurd.
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When phone or internet providers call and try to get me to switch to their company, I tell them I don't even own a phone...and then hang up :)
 Quoting: BRIEF


That is kinda original.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


It shuts them up fast and they don't call back...anytime someone makes an inappropriate statement or question I tell them something absurd.
 Quoting: BRIEF


LOL, So do I. So do I.
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A few weeks ago my husband had to take me to the ER because I became very sick (influenza) while teaching class.

The ER nurse also asked questions about guns to which I replied, "no". I do not think it is anybody's business if I own firearms. She then went on to ask me if I was being threatened at home & if I could protect myself -- WTF???

I answered no on the threat question & on the one about defending myself I just gave her a goofy look -- I was still in my dobok & belt with 3 gold slashes emblazoned upon it -- duh!

I could have understood if I came in wearing street clothes with black eyes, broken nose, bruised ribs, etc., but the questions are very intrusive & it was obvious I had the FLU!
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


WTF is going on, sandy hook is almost like a drama to get everybody to arm themselves. now the nurse question almost sounded like the government wanted to make sure people are able to protect themselves?

gasp
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A "soft sell' to gently reel people in; get them to think they are disclosing in a safe, confidential environment when it is anything but?
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith

Anything but is for real. The Obummercare has such strong strings on doctors, they must comply or not get paid. Fact.
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They are attacking guns, but likely know the real culprit is Pharmaceuticals. Funny that they redacted the names of the 4 prescription bottles found in James' Holmes' apartment, and they didn't take his blood after this because he didn't seem under the influence of anything...so, no evidence there. If a perpetrator is on any street drugs, we know by the next day. Why is the public DENIED any insight into what non-street drugs may have contributed to a crime? Hmmm? What's the logic there? We still don't have toxicology reports on Adam Lanza, either, and the coroner tries to throw everyone off the track by suggesting we need to study his genes.

This gun control project might be a huge cover for what pharmaceuticals have been and are doing to our country. It's deflection. Now, doctors will be brainwashed into this notion that the whole problem is guns, before checking their guilty conscience about being prostitutes for big Pharma. This way they can deflect blame, feel less guilty and can blame "gun ownership" instead of taking responsibility for the fact that they are guilty of prescribing and promoting many medications they that are likely harming the entire population and increasing these strange, violent outbursts. Oh, and now they get to play authoritarian "Police State" by keeping records on everyone that go into electronic databases. Goody!

If a doctor is truly worried about gun safety, they should not be recording answers and can easily have a pamphlet they point patients to without any nosing around.
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I had a cop asked me this once.

My reply.

"Yes sir I do, but its a good gun. My gun always stays where I put it. Never goes out on its own. Has been well taken care, being cleaned and lubricated after every visit to the firing range. It always does what I ask it to and has never been even the slightest bit out of line. I have a very high level of respect for it. While it has decimated countless zombie and silhouette targets it won't dare be used in any criminal act because it knows that I will not tolerate such things."

"Is it in the car with you?"

"Not at the moment"

"Oh, ok do you have any weapons in the vehicle?

"No"

"Ok Mr. ******* stay buckled up and have a nice day"

"You to man"


He pulled me over for speeding and totally forgot to write the ticket because I challenged him to think about what he was asking.

If guns are evil then people must be the inanimate objects being wielded by the guns.
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If I'm ever asked if I have a gun at home I'm going to stand up and do a modified version of this:







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Just one more straw Desert Fox.

My textbook response is "my child lives in a VERY safe home", though I do understand that answer does not directly address the question, and they may likely continue the hounding.

Requiring me to lie means I must violate my religion - though we know "they" no longer regard any of that with validity.

Only under one condition has God accepted, condoned, or even encouraged such action:
"...but by great deception, thou shalt do war."

Where does that leave Christians?
 Quoting: ClydeX


I think god will understand if you lie to a liar in order to protect yourself and family.
 Quoting: Anti Vortex


...


I don't even admit to being a smoker.

Fuck him, lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31830776


Best answer, lie. If it doesn't directly relate to the reason you are seeking medical attention, LIE your ass off to them.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Just one more straw Desert Fox.

My textbook response is "my child lives in a VERY safe home", though I do understand that answer does not directly address the question, and they may likely continue the hounding.

Requiring me to lie means I must violate my religion - though we know "they" no longer regard any of that with validity.

Only under one condition has God accepted, condoned, or even encouraged such action:
"...but by great deception, thou shalt do war."

Where does that leave Christians?
 Quoting: ClydeX


As stated in a post above, Take the 5th amendment. No lie, just no answer.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


And such omission, or even the answer I gave above ("my child lives in a Very safe home") answers the question positively by way of not affirming "NO".

The anti-guns crowd would never answer "maybe/ maybe not". Only those wishing to not define their possession would address the question with a distraction, leaving that area on the form blank, or with an otherwise obtuse answer.

Do you see? You answer the question either way.
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.

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