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DO YOU HAVE A GUN IN YOUR HOUSE. MUST READ.

 
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Ask the Prez if he has guns in his house,
if he likes having men with guns guarding his children,
it is "great" for him, but he wants us to all be
helpless little sheeple.
Obummer can not even prove birthplace.
Has proven he is Fascist New World Order Puppet
that Promotes killing babies (abortion)
and promotes the gay life style (Sodom)
Forced Health Care (state run genocide)
Promotes Gov assassinations and disarming any opposition to military police occupation and crimes.
Violates the Constitutional Bill of Rights and limited powers specified with impunity.

Obummer is not above the law, his mind is so controlled he thinks he is the law. May every American with free will and a mind that works reject his insanity and laugh at his delusional acts as The Emperor has no cloths.
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I've only ever had life insurance through an employer, but is this question asked on life insurance applications? If it doesn't work for them getting this information through our medical record, it'll be required to get life insurance if it isn't already.

Thank you for this post, OP. Always wise to be prepared for questions like this.
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These questions are being ask, and recorded ,regardless of what a shill may fact check or declare.
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A few weeks ago my husband had to take me to the ER because I became very sick (influenza) while teaching class.

The ER nurse also asked questions about guns to which I replied, "no". I do not think it is anybody's business if I own firearms. She then went on to ask me if I was being threatened at home & if I could protect myself -- WTF???

I answered no on the threat question & on the one about defending myself I just gave her a goofy look -- I was still in my dobok & belt with 3 gold slashes emblazoned upon it -- duh!

I could have understood if I came in wearing street clothes with black eyes, broken nose, bruised ribs, etc., but the questions are very intrusive & it was obvious I had the FLU!
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith



^^this^^ is consistant with what I've been hearing from other people as well. Not just ER visits....but referrals to specialists, in-home health assistants, and even in long-term doctor/patient relationships.


'data mining' at its finest
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But, but, but, Obamacare prohibits that. lol
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Obama care requires the doctor to ask if you have guns, but it also says that the answer must not be recorded. If you trust the government, go ahead and tell them about your guns, otherwise be vague, or dodgy. The doctor can't make you answer, but they have to prove that they asked the question. I will never tell them, and my response is "I object to giving my personal information to the government, and I believe this is unconstitutional and irrelevant". I have already asked one doctor if she knew that it was illegal to record hose answers. She said she had not heard that, but she had never made anybody answer anyway. She just mentioned it and filled out the chart with "discussed guns in house'. Until yesterday, I don't think anybody knew that the answer couldn't be recorded, but I intend to tell everyone I talk to. The feds never told the doctors, so most of them are probably breaking the law now.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


How do you feel, really sick doc. Do you own a gun, why, Yes I do. Where is your gun? Pointed straight at you.
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I don't care what anyone says. They are counting on you being taken off guard if asked this question. Maybe you never will be asked, but watch the news. What is the HOT topic of the day? It is SMART to be prepared to address the hot topic as it relates to you. Do NOT be taken off guard. Know in advance what you will say to this and any other intrusive questions that you know our "Dear Leader" is going after.
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Hurricane Katrina Door to Door Firearms Confiscation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1243271


Still we have shills that don't believe it can happen in America.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Dessert Fox I live right outside of New Orleans, I was here for the whole debacle, and yes this really happened, that and more.
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou,
don’t make you safe; No !

WARNING

Everyone, pay attention... Take your shoes off BEFORE you enter your home. Keep bleach in a sprayer to spray the area where the shoes are stored.

After walking around in public where people are spitting, vomiting, disposing of dirty diapers, condemns , tampons ect, you are a walking disease factory. Think about it.

Take off your shoes. Just do it!
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I don't care what anyone says. They are counting on you being taken off guard if asked this question. Maybe you never will be asked, but watch the news. What is the HOT topic of the day? It is SMART to be prepared to address the hot topic as it relates to you. Do NOT be taken off guard. Know in advance what you will say to this and any other intrusive questions that you know our "Dear Leader" is going after.
 Quoting: Gratia Plena


THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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it's time we stop,
hey what's that sound
everybody look what's goin down
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Hurricane Katrina Door to Door Firearms Confiscation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1243271


Still we have shills that don't believe it can happen in America.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Dessert Fox I live right outside of New Orleans, I was here for the whole debacle, and yes this really happened, that and more.
 Quoting: Life's-A-Bitch


Oh, I know it happened. I have friends in the area.
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When phone or internet providers call and try to get me to switch to their company, I tell them I don't even own a phone...and then hang up :)
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of course you do,,, thats funny shit right there.
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it's time we stop,
hey what's that sound
everybody look what's goin down
 Quoting: Redcat1


Very appropriate.
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One of those soft tactics used to get information from an unwitting target.

I think doctors are going to have a greater role in the gun "reduction" program, if that's what it is.
What if they decided that people who took certain medications could no longer own guns? I've a lot more on that idea, but that's for later. Bottom line, they could target/hype the drugs possible side effects as the reason why a person on those meds can't be trusted to own a gun. They could do it with any kind of drug, not just for mental illness. Just a thought.
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wtf
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WTF indeed. They have been asking if we wear seat belts for years and that pissed me off, now this. These people are definitely out of control and gone beyond the limits we should except.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


that's why you don't tell them it is none of their business. you still make the list
Give them a warm and fuzzy answer.
 Quoting: Kirk


^^^^THIS^^^^

just say no and stay off the list
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This is getting out of control.
 Quoting: besensible 14214035


Germany, anyone?
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Yep.
I reeks of the East German Stasi Police.


"The Stasi, which infiltrated every walk of East German life, suppressed political opposition, and caused the imprisonment of hundreds of thousands of citizens...

...including its programs for internal repression, international espionage, terrorism and terrorist training, art theft, intelligence files, and extensive interviews with victims of political oppression, former Stasi officers, and West German government officials. "

(promo snippet from the book overview)

[link to www.amazon.com]



Stasi police kept East Germans in fear for 40 years
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

flagthis facists

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One of those soft tactics used to get information from an unwitting target.

I think doctors are going to have a greater role in the gun "reduction" program, if that's what it is.
What if they decided that people who took certain medications could no longer own guns? I've a lot more on that idea, but that's for later. Bottom line, they could target/hype the drugs possible side effects as the reason why a person on those meds can't be trusted to own a gun. They could do it with any kind of drug, not just for mental illness. Just a thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


As Nazi Germany, everyone was turned into snitches. Is it happening to us? Is it?
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They'll take the guns..

look they claim the Constitution is a simple straight forth document.. I beg (not brag) to differ...Cause I'm still not clear on what a 'natural born citizen' is..and doubt any one else does either.. and it was never who is a citizen or not, it was about who could/should legally be aloud to hold office of president of this country.

And the other night it hit me..Cause they (founding fathers) threw in these words :regulated Militia/free State = right of the people all under one blanket Amendment it can very well be claimed to be interpreted as to 'mean' that a state=people keeps a local police/national guard... so forth an so on.. the right of the people to 'bear arms' has/is already covered! Makes me sick.. but understand it all depends on who interpreting it..

One people's Antichrist is another people's savior~!



2nd Amendment

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 Quoting: ceawaves


The Supreme Court defined it again not too long ago. It is an individual right to bear arms, which shall not be infringed.

'Well regulated' doesn't mean somebody standing over them telling them what to do. In the time frame it was written, it meant 'well supplied' to meet fighting standards as necessary. They had the same portable arms (not necessarily cannons tho they weren't specifically excluded) as regular military. Note: I am clueless about the cannons; don't remember reading and founding fathers' commentary that addressed that. For all I know they would have intended for them to have rocket launchers, too--oh wait those are portable so they probably DID.

As far as the militia goes, it applied to every man between certain ages--all of them, everybody--not just a police force.

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One of those soft tactics used to get information from an unwitting target.

I think doctors are going to have a greater role in the gun "reduction" program, if that's what it is.
What if they decided that people who took certain medications could no longer own guns? I've a lot more on that idea, but that's for later. Bottom line, they could target/hype the drugs possible side effects as the reason why a person on those meds can't be trusted to own a gun. They could do it with any kind of drug, not just for mental illness. Just a thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


This is absolutely on the money. It would be easy to limit access to guns using this kind of methodology and incredibly Orwelian. In a police state, one could say that believing in spiritual matters is a form of mental illness (no jokes I can hear them coming) and hence no spiritual people should have guns. Since African-Americans get certain illnesses in higher rates than others, then we should restrict dangerous range weapons from them. That some groups have higher rates of mental illness like depression, so anyone in that group or that has that issue shouldn't have a gun. That anyone that is older shows mental decline in critical thinking and slower reaction time, so let's not let them carry firearms. You see where it goes? It's a slippery slope if there ever was one.

You could justify taking guns from most people. Wait most liberals believe that, right? Wasn't the idea of being a liberal supposed to be about more freedom?

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One of those soft tactics used to get information from an unwitting target.

I think doctors are going to have a greater role in the gun "reduction" program, if that's what it is.
What if they decided that people who took certain medications could no longer own guns? I've a lot more on that idea, but that's for later. Bottom line, they could target/hype the drugs possible side effects as the reason why a person on those meds can't be trusted to own a gun. They could do it with any kind of drug, not just for mental illness. Just a thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


As Nazi Germany, everyone was turned into snitches. Is it happening to us? Is it?
 Quoting: Desert Fox


You see what is happening. You already know.
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Who should have the guns?

1:The people who what to control you.
2:The people being controlled.

banana2


My guess is the government is picking #1
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Wrong. This is expressly against the law as stated in the healthcare law itself.
Thread: Obamacare guarantees your gun rights
reference pages 123 - 124
[link to www.gpo.gov]

c) Protection of Second Amendment Gun Rights.--
``(1) Wellness and prevention programs.--A wellness and
health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D)
may not require the disclosure or collection of any information
relating to--
``(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-
possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on
the property of an individual; or

[[Page 124 STAT. 885]]

``(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a
firearm or ammunition by an individual.
``(2) Limitation on data collection.--None of the
authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that
Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the
collection of any information relating to--
``(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a
firearm or ammunition;
``(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or
``(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition
 Quoting: AC 5341




I hope this gets spred all over the internet.
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One of those soft tactics used to get information from an unwitting target.

I think doctors are going to have a greater role in the gun "reduction" program, if that's what it is.
What if they decided that people who took certain medications could no longer own guns? I've a lot more on that idea, but that's for later. Bottom line, they could target/hype the drugs possible side effects as the reason why a person on those meds can't be trusted to own a gun. They could do it with any kind of drug, not just for mental illness. Just a thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


As Nazi Germany, everyone was turned into snitches. Is it happening to us? Is it?
 Quoting: Desert Fox


You see what is happening. You already know.
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I have known it for years. The stone was set with a speech I saw at the democratic convention, by BHO. I knew then many were to fall under his spell just as Hitler wooed his subjects. Yes I knew.
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Who tells them the whole truth anyway?
I don't tell them every surgery I had at age 2 (can't remember anyway) or detail every time I ended up in the ER needing a few stitches.
 Quoting: Anti Vortex


I don't even admit to being a smoker.

Fuck him, lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31830776


Best answer, lie. If it doesn't directly relate to the reason you are seeking medical attention, LIE your ass off to them.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Just one more straw Desert Fox.

My textbook response is "my child lives in a VERY safe home", though I do understand that answer does not directly address the question, and they may likely continue the hounding.

Requiring me to lie means I must violate my religion - though we know "they" no longer regard any of that with validity.

Only under one condition has God accepted, condoned, or even encouraged such action:
"...but by great deception, thou shalt do war."

Where does that leave Christians?
 Quoting: ClydeX


...then you may lie!!! If you don't think this is war then you better wake up!
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wtf
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WTF indeed. They have been asking if we wear seat belts for years and that pissed me off, now this. These people are definitely out of control and gone beyond the limits we should except.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


that's why you don't tell them it is none of their business. you still make the list
Give them a warm and fuzzy answer.
 Quoting: Kirk


Exactly. LIE!

I hate guns Dr. and I would never allow one in my home.

Look appalled and offended that he even asked you.
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Be prepared for the question anytime you see a doctor do exactly this^^^^^^
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While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions: 1. Did I feel stressed? 2. Did I feel threatened? 3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

The nurse then informed me that if I had answered yes to any of the questions I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.



Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have?
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Holy Mother of God - that is nothing short of diabolical!

These bastards will stop at nothing to disarm the populace.
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wtf
 Quoting: Oyster


WTF indeed. They have been asking if we wear seat belts for years and that pissed me off, now this. These people are definitely out of control and gone beyond the limits we should except.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


that's why you don't tell them it is none of their business. you still make the list
Give them a warm and fuzzy answer.
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exactly,i was dumb enough to trust the drs,god was i stupid,you say something in humour,your marked for life as dangerous etc.now i'm playing nice gratefull little patient,trying hard not to point out every single lie they all tell and write.press wernt interested"too many paedo stories now,fck off" lawyers no interest,even though 6 years of records.God help us.my only last wish i bought webcam,to tell the whole truth(many witnessess) then end my life they destroyed.i havnt laughed in 3 years now,before i was so happy.oh,be carefull,they sneak little "meaningless"comments in to gauge your reaction.you can fail on taking little time to make up a lie,
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They'll take the guns..

look they claim the Constitution is a simple straight forth document.. I beg (not brag) to differ...Cause I'm still not clear on what a 'natural born citizen' is..and doubt any one else does either.. and it was never who is a citizen or not, it was about who could/should legally be aloud to hold office of president of this country.

And the other night it hit me..Cause they (founding fathers) threw in these words :regulated Militia/free State = right of the people all under one blanket Amendment it can very well be claimed to be interpreted as to 'mean' that a state=people keeps a local police/national guard... so forth an so on.. the right of the people to 'bear arms' has/is already covered! Makes me sick.. but understand it all depends on who interpreting it..

One people's Antichrist is another people's savior~!



2nd Amendment

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
 Quoting: ceawaves


The Supreme Court defined it again not too long ago. It is an individual right to bear arms, which shall not be infringed.

'Well regulated' doesn't mean somebody standing over them telling them what to do. In the time frame it was written, it meant 'well supplied' to meet fighting standards as necessary. They had the same portable arms (not necessarily cannons) as regular military.

As far as the militia goes, it applied to every man between certain ages--all of them, everybody--not just a police force.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


I understand that..Just saying what's already been said by the way i'm pro 2nd amendment/ but that's hardly the point this late:

[link to www.foxnews.com]

[link to www.thecrimson.com]

[link to www.nationalreview.com]

The End Justifies the means..
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It will probably be a mandatory question on every form we fill out pretty soon. Or worse.

"Sorry about your door. Hey, since you're here, do you own any firearms?"
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It will probably be a mandatory question on every form we fill out pretty soon. Or worse.

"Sorry about your door. Hey, since you're here, do you own any firearms?"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044117


Not too much of a stretch if things keep going the way they are. No one in Washington seems to be stepping up to the plate to reverse the trend towards authoritarianism.
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The questions the drs ask our children have gotten increasingly invasive. My children always lied if a question came up that they knew would sound bad. I remember when the dr asked my son if he gets a good night sleep but he had stayed up playing video games and when they asked my daughter if she ate a good breakfast (she hates breakfast) they both knew to say yes. My kids know that if they ever feel like they are in danger from me or my husband that they should definitely seek help but otherwise we are a team and it is always us first.
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GOOD JOB!!!
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I thought that from your avatar, Desert Fox, that you would just tell them they are out of their jurisdiction - under the "Two Roads Wampum" principle.

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