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| ClydeX User ID: 11310285 01/09/2013 11:10 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gee, I can see both sides of this. Quoting: Just Some Guy I, like probably most everybody else doesn't like medical staff even asking the question. (But I don't have guns so the answer would be no anyways) But, since the focus of all this bullshit should be focused on crazy people not guns, then if asking this question somehow stops a crazy person from going postal then it literally could save the lives of both the crazy man and his potential victims. I'd rather these these type things being done than more gun laws. The issue at hand in the country right now should be keeping crazy people from getting guns, not more willy-nilly gun laws that don't do squat. Agreed that the insane should not be allowed to have weapons, but it is not hard to make someone appear insane. If you accidentally say the wrong thing to your medical people, they document it, the government may deem you dangerous. They could easily say that of me, even tho I am very stable, but very much a patriot. There is the problem IMO. You are correct, sir - Loaded questions, agenda-driven/ power-tripping personnel, any tidbit of information that can be stored and later skewed, compiled, and used against you - all of this electronic medical records storing and sharing was not implemented for simplification of your medical treatment. Emergency/ Disaster Preparedness Supplies [link to mtnx.info] Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |
Desert Fox (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 01/09/2013 11:15 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gee, I can see both sides of this. Quoting: Just Some Guy I, like probably most everybody else doesn't like medical staff even asking the question. (But I don't have guns so the answer would be no anyways) But, since the focus of all this bullshit should be focused on crazy people not guns, then if asking this question somehow stops a crazy person from going postal then it literally could save the lives of both the crazy man and his potential victims. I'd rather these these type things being done than more gun laws. The issue at hand in the country right now should be keeping crazy people from getting guns, not more willy-nilly gun laws that don't do squat. Agreed that the insane should not be allowed to have weapons, but it is not hard to make someone appear insane. If you accidentally say the wrong thing to your medical people, they document it, the government may deem you dangerous. They could easily say that of me, even tho I am very stable, but very much a patriot. There is the problem IMO. You are correct, sir - Loaded questions, agenda-driven/ power-tripping personnel, any tidbit of information that can be stored and later skewed, compiled, and used against you - all of this electronic medical records storing and sharing was not implemented for simplification of your medical treatment. Exactly. This system was not designed for your benefit, nor the doctors benefit, but rather for Government intervention and intrusion into everyone's life. ![]() |
| ClydeX User ID: 11310285 01/09/2013 11:23 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gee, I can see both sides of this. Quoting: Just Some Guy I, like probably most everybody else doesn't like medical staff even asking the question. (But I don't have guns so the answer would be no anyways) But, since the focus of all this bullshit should be focused on crazy people not guns, then if asking this question somehow stops a crazy person from going postal then it literally could save the lives of both the crazy man and his potential victims. I'd rather these these type things being done than more gun laws. The issue at hand in the country right now should be keeping crazy people from getting guns, not more willy-nilly gun laws that don't do squat. Agreed that the insane should not be allowed to have weapons, but it is not hard to make someone appear insane. If you accidentally say the wrong thing to your medical people, they document it, the government may deem you dangerous. They could easily say that of me, even tho I am very stable, but very much a patriot. There is the problem IMO. You are correct, sir - Loaded questions, agenda-driven/ power-tripping personnel, any tidbit of information that can be stored and later skewed, compiled, and used against you - all of this electronic medical records storing and sharing was not implemented for simplification of your medical treatment. Exactly. This system was not designed for your benefit, nor the doctors benefit, but rather for Government intervention and intrusion into everyone's life. And the continued ramping up of the imprinting and conditioning of people to readily accept the government tracking your every single move is also no accident. Rod Sterling would shake in his boots at an opportunity to have a Twilight Zone episode as outlandish as what we're currently living. Emergency/ Disaster Preparedness Supplies [link to mtnx.info] Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee: 8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee. |
| cavity User ID: 645538 01/09/2013 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF indeed. They have been asking if we wear seat belts for years and that pissed me off, now this. These people are definitely out of control and gone beyond the limits we should except. that's why you don't tell them it is none of their business. you still make the list Give them a warm and fuzzy answer. Exactly. LIE! I hate guns Dr. and I would never allow one in my home. Look appalled and offended that he even asked you. Also when the dentist has you under (sleeping cocktail for the procedure) they will interrogate you for even more information. |
Desert Fox (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 01/09/2013 11:40 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Desert Fox WTF indeed. They have been asking if we wear seat belts for years and that pissed me off, now this. These people are definitely out of control and gone beyond the limits we should except. that's why you don't tell them it is none of their business. you still make the list Give them a warm and fuzzy answer. Exactly. LIE! I hate guns Dr. and I would never allow one in my home. Look appalled and offended that he even asked you. Also when the dentist has you under (sleeping cocktail for the procedure) they will interrogate you for even more information. Don't say that, I am getting a crown tomorrow. ![]() |
| SilverPatriot User ID: 10518597 01/09/2013 11:41 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, I believe the e-mail started from this article: Gun Owners Beware! Sneaky Medical Questions and YOUR Answers Can Have Devastating Consequences! Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners...Thanks, from a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer: I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions: 1. Did I feel stressed? 2. Did I feel threatened? 3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone? The nurse then informed me, that if I had answered "Yes" to any of the questions, I would have LOST my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security. [link to www.strangefunkidz.com] |
Desert Fox (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 01/09/2013 11:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, Quoting: SilverPatriot I believe the e-mail started from this article: Gun Owners Beware! Sneaky Medical Questions and YOUR Answers Can Have Devastating Consequences! Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners...Thanks, from a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer: I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions: 1. Did I feel stressed? 2. Did I feel threatened? 3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone? The nurse then informed me, that if I had answered "Yes" to any of the questions, I would have LOST my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security. [link to www.strangefunkidz.com] That was where it came from. ![]() |
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| led_Dis_Spencer User ID: 645538 01/10/2013 12:10 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is coming to a point where you als gunna hafta choose your line. Most of you posters here need to grow a set and think about your move before your move. HA most of you will not survive whats coming. I do wish you the best of luck, humbly. And as for the women posters I hope you have the balls where your other half doesn't. Happy New Year. ![]() The enemy of my enemy is my ..... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31052866 01/10/2013 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is retarded. I have been a number of doctors and specialists over the past several years, and have NEVER been asked this. Now, I could see an in-home nursing agency wanting to know this for their employee safety, but going to the doctor or the hospital, I don't believe they are actually asking this. |
Desert Fox (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 01/10/2013 12:27 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is retarded. I have been a number of doctors and specialists over the past several years, and have NEVER been asked this. Now, I could see an in-home nursing agency wanting to know this for their employee safety, but going to the doctor or the hospital, I don't believe they are actually asking this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31052866 It really doesn't matter whether you believe it or not, it is happening. ![]() |
| led_Dis_Spencer User ID: 645538 01/10/2013 12:28 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is retarded. I have been a number of doctors and specialists over the past several years, and have NEVER been asked this. Now, I could see an in-home nursing agency wanting to know this for their employee safety, but going to the doctor or the hospital, I don't believe they are actually asking this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31052866 LOL, ya you are so correct. There are no doctors asking if there are guns at home to my wife and teachers asking the same of my children. SUCK MY ASSHOLE FAGGOT The enemy of my enemy is my ..... |
| led_Dis_Spencer User ID: 645538 01/10/2013 12:29 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is retarded. I have been a number of doctors and specialists over the past several years, and have NEVER been asked this. Now, I could see an in-home nursing agency wanting to know this for their employee safety, but going to the doctor or the hospital, I don't believe they are actually asking this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31052866 It really doesn't matter whether you believe it or not, it is happening. my response was better chief The enemy of my enemy is my ..... |
Desert Fox (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 01/10/2013 12:30 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is retarded. I have been a number of doctors and specialists over the past several years, and have NEVER been asked this. Now, I could see an in-home nursing agency wanting to know this for their employee safety, but going to the doctor or the hospital, I don't believe they are actually asking this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31052866 It really doesn't matter whether you believe it or not, it is happening. my response was better chief Perhaps, but I prefer civility. Last Edited by Desert Fox on 01/10/2013 12:37 AM ![]() |
| led_Dis_Spencer User ID: 645538 01/10/2013 12:43 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good Point. You must be a chick. They are attacking guns, but likely know the real culprit is Pharmaceuticals. Funny that they redacted the names of the 4 prescription bottles found in James' Holmes' apartment, and they didn't take his blood after this because he didn't seem under the influence of anything...so, no evidence there. If a perpetrator is on any street drugs, we know by the next day. Why is the public DENIED any insight into what non-street drugs may have contributed to a crime? Hmmm? What's the logic there? We still don't have toxicology reports on Adam Lanza, either, and the coroner tries to throw everyone off the track by suggesting we need to study his genes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20248136 This gun control project might be a huge cover for what pharmaceuticals have been and are doing to our country. It's deflection. Now, doctors will be brainwashed into this notion that the whole problem is guns, before checking their guilty conscience about being prostitutes for big Pharma. This way they can deflect blame, feel less guilty and can blame "gun ownership" instead of taking responsibility for the fact that they are guilty of prescribing and promoting many medications they that are likely harming the entire population and increasing these strange, violent outbursts. Oh, and now they get to play authoritarian "Police State" by keeping records on everyone that go into electronic databases. Goody! If a doctor is truly worried about gun safety, they should not be recording answers and can easily have a pamphlet they point patients to without any nosing around. The enemy of my enemy is my ..... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31052866 01/10/2013 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is retarded. I have been a number of doctors and specialists over the past several years, and have NEVER been asked this. Now, I could see an in-home nursing agency wanting to know this for their employee safety, but going to the doctor or the hospital, I don't believe they are actually asking this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31052866 It really doesn't matter whether you believe it or not, it is happening. my response was better chief Perhaps, but I prefer civility. You must live in Obama controlled territory. My physician and I do talk about guns though because he is also a gun enthusiast and recently showed me a new compact Beretta he carries on him. We both lamented the run on ammo. |
| led_Dis_Spencer User ID: 645538 01/10/2013 12:57 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You live in a bubble. Quoting: Desert Fox You must live in Obama controlled territory. My physician and I do talk about guns though because he is also a gun enthusiast and recently showed me a new compact Beretta he carries on him. We both lamented the run on ammo. The enemy of my enemy is my ..... |
Desert Fox (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 01/10/2013 12:59 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Desert Fox You must live in Obama controlled territory. My physician and I do talk about guns though because he is also a gun enthusiast and recently showed me a new compact Beretta he carries on him. We both lamented the run on ammo. My Doctor is my friend, we talk a lot, he is a gun man, prepper, ect. He also tells me the ins and outs of the business. It is being shoved down his throat to comply with the feds. I think you know we all live in Obama controlled territory. If the Dr. wants paid, they comply. This only the tip of the iceberg of what this man has in store for Americans. ![]() |
Desert Fox (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 01/10/2013 01:00 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You live in a bubble. Quoting: led_Dis_Spencer You must live in Obama controlled territory. My physician and I do talk about guns though because he is also a gun enthusiast and recently showed me a new compact Beretta he carries on him. We both lamented the run on ammo. A bubble indeed. ![]() |
| Don'tBeAfraid User ID: 1110734 01/10/2013 01:06 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You must live in Obama controlled territory. My physician and I do talk about guns though because he is also a gun enthusiast and recently showed me a new compact Beretta he carries on him. We both lamented the run on ammo. My Doctor is my friend, we talk a lot, he is a gun man, prepper, ect. He also tells me the ins and outs of the business. It is being shoved down his throat to comply with the feds. I think you know we all live in Obama controlled territory. If the Dr. wants paid, they comply. This only the tip of the iceberg of what this man has in store for Americans. I know some docs. Obamacare was the last straw for them. Of course I live in a conservative state for the most part. There are a lot of Democrats, but they're Dixiecrats so very conservative. A lot own guns because they've saved some money and want to protect their families. It's surprisingly easy to talk about prepping and guns because THEY own them and are actually interesting in what might happen. They're educated people, see poverty and abuse of the system and criminals every day. A lot are quite awake. Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 01/10/2013 01:07 AM Come visit my 900+ posts on rational and practical prepping for getting closer to the Earth and God. Thread: Last minute tips for parents when the SHTF (Page 33) Believe in yourself, you're beautiful. Thread: dating&romance advice - see Don´tBeAfraid´s tips/explanations - edited to have only the useful information for ya! (Page 5) Thread: What is the soul? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26194713 01/10/2013 01:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll print this out, carry it with me and hand it to any healthcare professional that asks for information about my firearms: THE PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT PUBLIC LAW 111–148—MAR. 23, 2010 124 STAT. 885 Section 2717 (c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.— (2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any information relating to— (A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; (B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or (C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition. |
| led_Dis_Spencer User ID: 645538 01/10/2013 01:14 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll print this out, carry it with me and hand it to any healthcare professional that asks for information about my firearms: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26194713 THE PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT PUBLIC LAW 111–148—MAR. 23, 2010 124 STAT. 885 Section 2717 (c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.— (2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any information relating to— (A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; (B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or (C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition. dont waste your printer ink. just dont comply The enemy of my enemy is my ..... |
Desert Fox (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 01/10/2013 01:16 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You must live in Obama controlled territory. My physician and I do talk about guns though because he is also a gun enthusiast and recently showed me a new compact Beretta he carries on him. We both lamented the run on ammo. Mine is very awake. He is considering leaving his practice if things keep going down the tubes. The last thing he said to me when I saw him last was, food, brass, and bullets. My Doctor is my friend, we talk a lot, he is a gun man, prepper, ect. He also tells me the ins and outs of the business. It is being shoved down his throat to comply with the feds. I think you know we all live in Obama controlled territory. If the Dr. wants paid, they comply. This only the tip of the iceberg of what this man has in store for Americans. I know some docs. Obamacare was the last straw for them. Of course I live in a conservative state for the most part. There are a lot of Democrats, but they're Dixiecrats so very conservative. A lot own guns because they've saved some money and want to protect their families. It's surprisingly easy to talk about prepping and guns because THEY own them and are actually interesting in what might happen. They're educated people, see poverty and abuse of the system and criminals every day. A lot are quite awake. ![]() |
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