DO YOU HAVE A GUN IN YOUR HOUSE. MUST READ.

Night to you. remember,


Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have? Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner, veteran or not, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED ! If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom. They are coming for us, so unless you're an ostrich, do not stick your head in the sand......

The correct answer is simply: "Not Applicable"

If asked to clarify, the correct answer is: "Not Applicable"

Night to you. remember,


Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have? Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner, veteran or not, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED ! If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom. They are coming for us, so unless you're an ostrich, do not stick your head in the sand......

Just say No wether you do or not.

Fucksake people, stop acting like doctors are gods. Am I to believe that everyone answers every doctors inquiries truthfully?

It's like when my company health insurance provider created a penalty for smokers, $25 additional per month for coverage. They sent a questionnaire in the mail with "Do you smoke?" as a question.

Fucking stupid.

Exactly. LIE!

I hate guns Dr. and I would never allow one in my home.

Look appalled and offended that he even asked you.

The ONLY way to answer a question like this, even if you do not have any firearms, is...

FUCK YOU

Repeat, if necessary.

When phone or internet providers call and try to get me to switch to their company, I tell them I don't even own a phone...and then hang up :)

Yes but in the case of the health insurance, if you answer no, and then you have a disease related to smoking, the insurance won't cover you.

answer with everything you were told is 'good', and that you 'love the national security effort'.... hell, ask where you can sign up, tell them your fit as a fiddle and extremely happy.. if you own anything laff it off as preposterous (every time) that'll fek em...

when they call me , i tell them i am interested but will be right back..... leave them on hold whilst i chill with a beer and whatever i was doing... wife gets home... see's the phone off the hook and laffs... she knows....

I have one radio in my home that is permanently tuned to a Chinese radio station. (For these calls)

When the telemarketer calls and asks to speak with "Mr. Smith", I just say, "Yes, one moment, I will get him for you.."

I then promptly lay the phone down next to my radio tuned and turned on to the Chinese station.

And then I sit back and laugh and laugh. Silently, of course.

I pray for these calls, daily. Laughter is the best medicine.

I have one radio in my home that is permanently tuned to a Chinese radio station. (For these calls)

When the telemarketer calls and asks to speak with "Mr. Smith", I just say, "Yes, one moment, I will get him for you.."

I then promptly lay the phone down next to my radio tuned and turned on to the Chinese station.

And then I sit back and laugh and laugh. Silently, of course.

I pray for these calls, daily. Laughter is the best medicine.

... While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions: 1. Did I feel stressed? 2. Did I feel threatened? 3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

The nurse then informed me that if I had answered yes to any of the questions I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.
...

I think the correct answer is to inform the doctor that he may be breaking the law. Then direct him to page 2037 of the Affordable Care Act (Yes Obamacare).

‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—
‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.— A wellness and health promotion activity imple-
mented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relat- ing to—
‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully- possessed firearm or ammunition in the resi- dence or on the property of an individual; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual. ‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None
of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any in- formation relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition;
‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammu- nition; or
‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or am- munition.
‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Sec- retary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain

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records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PRE- MIUM RATES OR ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSUR- ANCE.—A premium rate may not be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied, and a dis- count, rebate, or reward offered for participation in a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance with the Patient Protection and Afford- able Care Act or an amendment made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance upon—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; or
‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition.
‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION RE- QUIREMENTS FOR INDIVIDUALS.—No individual shall be required to disclose any information under any data collection activity authorized under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act relating to—
‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; or

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‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition.’’.
(f) Section 2718 of the Public Health Service Act, as added by section 1001(5), is amended to read as follows: ‘‘SEC. 2718. BRINGING DOWN THE COST OF HEALTH CARE

Another good point is to mention that doctors kill a lot more people with mistakes than guns do. But that's another post,

We are living under such a controlled situation, the government sees no reason to limit what can be imposed on the people. No real push back have they encountered, so nothing is off limits. The nurse thought perhaps you were dumb enough to be tricked into the answer she was after. Good for you to see thru her trickery. I don't even tell them if I wear seat belts or not, it's bullshit.

btw desert fox, i love your passion, commitment and idiological stance...... nice...

Insurance companies (of any kind) will always ask these intrusive questions because then they can charge you higher rates. It's that simple. Since the doc works for the insurance company, not you, then they will ultimately do what they must to be part of an insurance network. That's cold hard logic. Cash payments are a very small part of doc payments.

Look up managed care. The insurance company contracts with a doc to see X number of patients. Bet you didn't realize that and thought he/she worked for you. Nope.

Yeah, you can quote chapter and verse from a law. They don't care. They don't have time to deal with that. If you mention suing them, they'll likely just say, goodbye or call security.

Not applicable is a damn good answer. I guess better than equivocating.

If you feel threatened, they take away your concealed carry permit!? That makes a whole lot of sense! But these days nothing would surprise me.

My cousin sent me this e-mail.




Do you have a gun in the house?

THIS IS GOOD TO KNOW!

When I had my gangrene gallbladder taken out and spent 10 days in the hospital. I had home nurse visits for two weeks and was asked if I had guns in the house. I respond that if I did I would not tell them. So the below has some merit.

FYI, I am passing this along... there are comments from two other people that have also been asked if they keep guns in the house. The nurse just kinda slipped it in along with all the other regular questions. I told her I refused to answer because it was against the law to ask.

Everyone, whether you have guns or not, should give a neutral answer so they have no idea who does and who doesn't. My doctor asked me if I had guns in my house and also if any were loaded. I, of course, answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against criminal attack.

The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.

Just passing this along for your information: I had to visit a doctor other than my regular doctor when my doctor was on vacation.. One of the questions on the form I had to fill out was: Do you have any guns in your house?? My answer was None of your damn business!!

So it is out there! It is either an insurance issue or government intervention. Either way, it is out there and the second the government gets into your medical records (as they want to under Obamacare) it will become a major issue and will ultimately result in lock and load!!

Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners... Thanks, from a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer: I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions: 1. Did I feel stressed? 2. Did I feel threatened? 3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?

The nurse then informed me that if I had answered yes to any of the questions I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.



Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have? Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists. Whether you are a gun owner, veteran or not, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED ! If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom. They are coming for us, so unless you're an ostrich, do not stick your head in the sand......

that's the ticket...... :)
or if you have friends over, and you already had a few, put on a fake foriegn accent in gibberish like you are asking questions.. must cost the big corps a fair bit with shit like that... always leave the phone up (unless you need it), because their PABX will take time to reset.. and huge loss of revenue if we all do it.... always cracks me up and everyone knows what i am up to here.... GRIN.... in fact my current monika is probably me getting up to it by the looks.... mahahahah

genius,my mate and me just outta loony bin,she had depression,got call tyring to sell her mobile contract,we were all pissing ourselves,shes a counsellor,and kept him in circles for half an hour,saying "i'm too depressed" he'd reply"know what'l make you feel better?a new mobile""etcetc

Just one more straw Desert Fox.

My textbook response is "my child lives in a VERY safe home", though I do understand that answer does not directly address the question, and they may likely continue the hounding.

Requiring me to lie means I must violate my religion - though we know "they" no longer regard any of that with validity.

Only under one condition has God accepted, condoned, or even encouraged such action:
"...but by great deception, thou shalt do war."

Where does that leave Christians?