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Oh my! Can"t believe I saw the new definition of Patriot!!

 
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This comes from the dependent left who has a hive type mentality who believes the government has their best interests at heart and will always come to their rescue. Even after seeing their “dear leader obama” give the victims of Hurricane Sandy all types of promises of help flowing their way and they ended up with empty promises.

Unless you count the tent shelters, where the victims were not allowed to come and go but the dependent class might not believe they were prisoners.

The gullible mind explained
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nice article
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A real Patriot doesn't mind paying for mine and Michelle's luxury vacation........errrrr... diplomatic travels.

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Patriots do not ask questions.

Ignorance is strength.
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I loved that book! OK, let me say it was an awesome book, but the last time I read it, damnwow! how depressing. I remember where I was and the feeling I had at the end.

Great book, filled with truth, but damn, the ending was horrible.
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I was looking about and found this - oh my!

reallywtf
 Quoting: Turtles Voice


Most of this can be done through local agencies and local taxes. There is no reason to piss away $$ on the special interest clearinghouse in unWashedington Diseased.

America is not to big to fail. It has failed. It is over except for the fireworks.

What will come out of it, like a Phoenix rising, is several nations devoted to their people's best interest. Not some crumbling empire trying desperately to hang on.
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So in other words, according to this a REAL Patriot leans FORWARD so they can get a better angle when they fuck him...
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Oh my!
 Quoting: Turtles Voice


Are you patriotic OP?
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Taxes are a necessary evil, but this seems to me like a campaign to keep the coffers full from the work of citizens, and not from the vaults of the mega corporations.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Good point, KK.
 Quoting: Turtles Voice


No, it's not a good point, just because a corporation makes more money is not an excuse to tax them to death. If the government taxed merely to do public infrastructure works as the OP picture implies taxes would be very low. Instead they use the taxes for nation building around the world and a welfare state home. Plus the government has destroyed the free market and now bails out "too big to fail" special interest corporations and banks with public money. Thus there's never enough money to do all the atrocious things the government wants to do. And whenever someone argues for stopping all this travesty, the do gooder liberals come crying that how can you let the evil corporations oppress the weak? Dear, the corporations can't oppress anyone without big government fomented monopoly.

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Funny, I seem to remember back when Michael Moore and all the far-left, liberal people prominent in the media were vehemently arguing against Iraq, Afghanistan, and calling "W" an idiot, moran.....

They said, "A real Patriot voices his opinion, especially when it is against a tyrannical government waging illegal war."

Now a real Patriot turns his guns in, shuts up about any evidence which shows the government to be illegal, unconstitutional, rogue, etc., and then not only pays taxes, but does it with a smile.


What fucking planet do I live on and what year is it?


I think the government,via the msm is intentionally provoking real American patriots into rage and eventually violence.

The msm has the anti-patriot rhetoric at about an 8 right now, and Obama is about to be given orders from the owners of the central banking system (fed res) to crank it up to 11...
 Quoting: The Sonic Dreamer


What fucking planet do I live on and what year is it?



I've felt that way for about 10 years now!
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I consider myself a Patriot and I dont mind paying taxes for the things mentions in that "meme."

HOWEVER.. I DO NOT support the gross misspending of my taxes on everything EXCEPT the things mentioned.. Because its pretty fucking obvious OUR money is not spend ^^^ there!!

FUCKERS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17552394


That's just the point as well. There is ALWAYS massive fraud,waste and abuse of tax money.

The parasites produce nothing of value.


And they always demand more.
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A real Patriot doesn't mind paying for mine and Michelle's luxury vacation........errrrr... diplomatic travels.

ohappy
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It's cool Always nice to get out! Lol, Enjoy all your trips!
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I know, I was stunned when I saw it, but I must admit it came from one of my very liberal friends.
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You just don't get it, do you?
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I was looking about and found this - oh my!

reallywtf
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paid shill????
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All signs are pointing to yes
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Pay me - the link to my book is in my signature - trust me when I say no one else is paying me flower
"In order to arrive at what you are not,
You must go through the way in which you are not."

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I was looking about and found this - oh my!

reallywtf
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Get it from the Bankers b@tch we know all the money going to them and all the alphabet agencies to suppress our rights
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So in other words, according to this a REAL Patriot leans FORWARD so they can get a better angle when they fuck him...
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Oh my!
 Quoting: Turtles Voice


Are you patriotic OP?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25392795


I know what is just.
"In order to arrive at what you are not,
You must go through the way in which you are not."

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I was looking about and found this - oh my!

:reallywtf:
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paid shill????
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All signs are pointing to yes
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Pay me - the link to my book is in my signature - trust me when I say no one else is paying me flower
 Quoting: Turtles Voice


I didn't mean you per say but those who created this monstrosity
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Taxes are a necessary evil, but this seems to me like a campaign to keep the coffers full from the work of citizens, and not from the vaults of the mega corporations.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Good point, KK.
 Quoting: Turtles Voice


No, it's not a good point, just because a corporation makes more money is not an excuse to tax them to death. If the government taxed merely to do public infrastructure works as the OP picture implies taxes would be very low. Instead they use the taxes for nation building around the world and a welfare state home. Plus the government has destroyed the free market and now bails out "too big to fail" special interest corporations and banks with public money. Thus there's never enough money to do all the atrocious things the government wants to do. And whenever someone argues for stopping all this travesty, the do gooder liberals come crying that how can you let the evil corporations oppress the weak? Dear, the corporations can't oppress anyone without big government fomented monopoly.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


Another good point.

But funny these points come from Spain and Australia and not folks actually living in America.

Just pointing it out.
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Government is just a corporation but one which forces the citizenry to buy their products or else sends them to jail. I much rather to take a risk with a true free market, at least corporations in the free market can be brought down if what they offer is not desirable.
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Its official ... we lve in bizzaro world.
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Hahah tonight's Seinfeld episode is 'The Bizarro Jerry'.... Synchronicity!

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This comes from the dependent left who has a hive type mentality who believes the government has their best interests at heart and will always come to their rescue. Even after seeing their “dear leader obama” give the victims of Hurricane Sandy all types of promises of help flowing their way and they ended up with empty promises.

Unless you count the tent shelters, where the victims were not allowed to come and go but the dependent class might not believe they were prisoners.

The gullible mind explained
[link to www.naturalnews.com]
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


nice article
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In many ways the progressives (communists, leftists etc.) are categorizing those with opposing political views and deem freethinking is a disorder as opposed to their hive follower mentality.

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A real patriot is a spineless weakling who lets others take his money and spend it for him.
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Funny, I seem to remember back when Michael Moore and all the far-left, liberal people prominent in the media were vehemently arguing against Iraq, Afghanistan, and calling "W" an idiot, moran.....

They said, "A real Patriot voices his opinion, especially when it is against a tyrannical government waging illegal war."

Now a real Patriot turns his guns in, shuts up about any evidence which shows the government to be illegal, unconstitutional, rogue, etc., and then not only pays taxes, but does it with a smile.


What fucking planet do I live on and what year is it?


I think the government,via the msm is intentionally provoking real American patriots into rage and eventually violence.

The msm has the anti-patriot rhetoric at about an 8 right now, and Obama is about to be given orders from the owners of the central banking system (fed res) to crank it up to 11...
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Well that's simple, when you are in charge the rules are different...
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Real Patriots don't pay taxes.

Ask me a question.

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Its official ... we lve in bizzaro world.
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Hahah tonight's Seinfeld episode is 'The Bizarro Jerry'.... Synchronicity!
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I loved that one lol
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Now let me add this "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism".
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Taxes are a necessary evil, but this seems to me like a campaign to keep the coffers full from the work of citizens, and not from the vaults of the mega corporations.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Good point, KK.
 Quoting: Turtles Voice


No, it's not a good point, just because a corporation makes more money is not an excuse to tax them to death. If the government taxed merely to do public infrastructure works as the OP picture implies taxes would be very low. Instead they use the taxes for nation building around the world and a welfare state home. Plus the government has destroyed the free market and now bails out "too big to fail" special interest corporations and banks with public money. Thus there's never enough money to do all the atrocious things the government wants to do. And whenever someone argues for stopping all this travesty, the do gooder liberals come crying that how can you let the evil corporations oppress the weak? Dear, the corporations can't oppress anyone without big government fomented monopoly.
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Corporations are not citizens, though they are comprised of citizens, I don't see why an individual should be taxed similarly to a group, it would make more sense to tax a group higher.
Defense is still the biggest expenditure, imagine if that went from its 24.9% to the 1.6% for international affairs,
the you would have a case for arguing for 'nation building around the world'.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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Taxes are a necessary evil, but this seems to me like a campaign to keep the coffers full from the work of citizens, and not from the vaults of the mega corporations.
 Quoting: K.Kool


Good point, KK.
 Quoting: Turtles Voice


No, it's not a good point, just because a corporation makes more money is not an excuse to tax them to death. If the government taxed merely to do public infrastructure works as the OP picture implies taxes would be very low. Instead they use the taxes for nation building around the world and a welfare state home. Plus the government has destroyed the free market and now bails out "too big to fail" special interest corporations and banks with public money. Thus there's never enough money to do all the atrocious things the government wants to do. And whenever someone argues for stopping all this travesty, the do gooder liberals come crying that how can you let the evil corporations oppress the weak? Dear, the corporations can't oppress anyone without big government fomented monopoly.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren




Corporations are not citizens, though they are comprised of citizens, I don't see why an individual should be taxed similarly to a group, it would make more sense to tax a group higher.
Defense is still the biggest expenditure, imagine if that went from its 24.9% to the 1.6% for international affairs,
the you would have a case for arguing for 'nation building around the world'.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: K.Kool


You have that mentality because nowadays the government taxes everyone too much and everyone expects to get a piece of that tax pie for their own agendas. In a free market system taxes would be much lower and people wouldn't be trying to dispute who gets any of it because they'd be self reliant and get their profit from their own work. Taxes should be very low and only used for infrastructure development and literal national defense, meaning an army stationed home in case of an attempt of foreign occupation, not an army occupying foreign nations. Maybe very big corporations could get charged a bit more in order that the regular people could be charged a bit less even, but we'd be talking of negligible amounts, not the kind of numbers we speak about nowadays, which are ludicrous to say the least.
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Too bad most of our taxes aren't spent for those things.
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Yep, foreign aid seems to be one of our biggest priorities. Baffels me, I mean at this time in history it does.
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Foreign aid had remained at around 1% of the Federal budget since the 1970s. Compared with military and entitlement budgets, this is loose change.

Try again.
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that reminds my of the nazi propaganda during the late 30s.

my question is does this administration have any original ideas or are they just going to continue to plagiarize hitler, stallin, and mao?
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OMFG THIS.
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I was looking about and found this - oh my!

reallywtf
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It's called a PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN.
The Soviets and Nazi's did the same thing.


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Good point, KK.
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No, it's not a good point, just because a corporation makes more money is not an excuse to tax them to death. If the government taxed merely to do public infrastructure works as the OP picture implies taxes would be very low. Instead they use the taxes for nation building around the world and a welfare state home. Plus the government has destroyed the free market and now bails out "too big to fail" special interest corporations and banks with public money. Thus there's never enough money to do all the atrocious things the government wants to do. And whenever someone argues for stopping all this travesty, the do gooder liberals come crying that how can you let the evil corporations oppress the weak? Dear, the corporations can't oppress anyone without big government fomented monopoly.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren




Corporations are not citizens, though they are comprised of citizens, I don't see why an individual should be taxed similarly to a group, it would make more sense to tax a group higher.
Defense is still the biggest expenditure, imagine if that went from its 24.9% to the 1.6% for international affairs,
the you would have a case for arguing for 'nation building around the world'.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: K.Kool


You have that mentality because nowadays the government taxes everyone too much and everyone expects to get a piece of that tax pie for their own agendas. In a free market system taxes would be much lower and people wouldn't be trying to dispute who gets any of it because they'd be self reliant and get their profit from their own work. Taxes should be very low and only used for infrastructure development and literal national defense, meaning an army stationed home in case of an attempt of foreign occupation, not an army occupying foreign nations. Maybe very big corporations could get charged a bit more in order that the regular people could be charged a bit less even, but we'd be talking of negligible amounts, not the kind of numbers we speak about nowadays, which are ludicrous to say the least.
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For a free market system to even begin to work well, exorbitant interest rates would need to be abolished.
This is where all gov's have to get some teeth and not be the playthings of the mega transnationals.

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