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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23078074 United States 01/09/2013 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Big Fuckin deal. All the second amendment does is reiterates our GOD GIVEN, not government given, rights, to keep and bear arms. In my book, the only one who has the power to revoke that right is God himself and until that happens I will tell anyone who tries to revoke that right, bring it.....lets see if you are strong enough. |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/09/2013 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | quote from SHAVAGER: "YOU GUYS JUST DON'T GET IT DO YOU?? THERE IS NO EXISTING FEDERAL LAW THAT ALLOWS WHAT THIS AMENDMENT PROHIBITS--so basically the FEDS are prevented under this Healthcare bill FROM ESTABLISHING ANY NEW LIMITATIONS, RESTRICTIONS OR REGISTRATIONS not already in LAW with passage of this BILL. Congress MUST pass any legislation to attempt registration, limitations, or prohibitions--and any attempts will be met with lawsuits that will go to U.S. Supreme Court.. What does it take for YOU to understand--the Second Amendment is an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT--not a collective right that can be limited to all Americans by an act of Congress--IF 99.99% of Americans and OWEbama SUPPORTED GUN BANS--the BILL OF RIGHTS PROTECTS the rights of ALL AMERICANS--down to the SMALLEST MINORITY OF ONE~!!" "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/09/2013 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to hotair.com] "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
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TDJ User ID: 26423286 United States 01/09/2013 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Love it when stupid people fuck themselves The old saying...give 'em enough rope and they will hang themselves If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
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Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/09/2013 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know what you mean. However, they will probably just remove the clause by Executive Order, there, all fixed. If they found it before the world did maybe.. but CNN is running this and that means its going to take more then a sharpie to make this go away.. Ohhh shit i just had an ounce of hope, someone slap me i think i am dreaming... "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/09/2013 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here is the amendment: "‘‘(c) PROTECTION OF SECOND AMENDMENT GUN RIGHTS.—øAs added by section 10101(e)(2)¿ ‘‘(1) WELLNESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS.—A wellness and health promotion activity implemented under subsection (a)(1)(D) may not require the disclosure or collection of any information relating to— ‘‘(A) the presence or storage of a lawfully-possessed firearm or ammunition in the residence or on the property of an individual; or ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition by an individual. ‘‘(2) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used for the collection of any information relating to— ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; ‘‘(B) the lawful use of a firearm or ammunition; or ‘‘(C) the lawful storage of a firearm or ammunition. ‘‘(3) LIMITATION ON DATABASES OR DATA BANKS.—None of the authorities provided to the Secretary under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act shall be construed to authorize or may be used to maintain records of individual ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition. ‘‘(4) LIMITATION ON DETERMINATION OF PREMIUM RATES OR ELIGIBILITY FOR HEALTH INSURANCE.—A premium rate may not be increased, health insurance coverage may not be denied, and a discount, rebate, or reward offered for participation in a wellness program may not be reduced or withheld under any health benefit plan issued pursuant to or in accordance with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act on the basis of, or on reliance upon— ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; or ‘‘(B) the lawful use or storage of a firearm or ammunition. ‘‘(5) LIMITATION ON DATA COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS FOR INDIVIDUALS.—No individual shall be required to disclose any information under any data collection activity authorized under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act or an amendment made by that Act relating to— ‘‘(A) the lawful ownership or possession of a firearm or ammunition; or ‘‘(B) the lawful use, possession, or storage of a firearm or ammunition. ‘‘(d) REGULATIONS.—Not later than 2 years after the date of enactment of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the Secretary shall promulgate regulations that provide criteria for determining whether a reimbursement structure is described in subsection (a). ‘‘(e) STUDY AND REPORT.—Not later than 180 days after the date on which regulations are promulgated under subsection (c), the Government Accountability Office shall review such regulations and conduct a study and submit to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions of the Senate and the Committee on Energy and Commerce of the House of Representatives a report regarding the impact the activities under this section have had on the quality and cost of health care." Last Edited by Liquid_Pestilence on 01/09/2013 11:04 PM "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2849260 United States 01/09/2013 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I read over and over was LAWFUL which can be changed by a stroke of a pen. In other words if Obama decides that ALL guns are illegal, there will be NO LAWFUL firearms for this amendment to apply to. Feel free to correct me if I'm interpreting this amendment wrong. |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/09/2013 11:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All I read over and over was LAWFUL which can be changed by a stroke of a pen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2849260 In other words if Obama decides that ALL guns are illegal, there will be NO LAWFUL firearms for this amendment to apply to. Feel free to correct me if I'm interpreting this amendment wrong. You could be correct but everything i have read is saying this will stick. I don't know much about law, any lawyers in the house tonight? Anyone else with some input? "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16990801 Ireland 01/10/2013 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | quote from SHAVAGER: Quoting: Liquid_Pestilence "YOU GUYS JUST DON'T GET IT DO YOU?? THERE IS NO EXISTING FEDERAL LAW THAT ALLOWS WHAT THIS AMENDMENT PROHIBITS--so basically the FEDS are prevented under this Healthcare bill FROM ESTABLISHING ANY NEW LIMITATIONS, RESTRICTIONS OR REGISTRATIONS not already in LAW with passage of this BILL. Congress MUST pass any legislation to attempt registration, limitations, or prohibitions--and any attempts will be met with lawsuits that will go to U.S. Supreme Court.. What does it take for YOU to understand--the Second Amendment is an INDIVIDUAL RIGHT--not a collective right that can be limited to all Americans by an act of Congress--IF 99.99% of Americans and OWEbama SUPPORTED GUN BANS--the BILL OF RIGHTS PROTECTS the rights of ALL AMERICANS--down to the SMALLEST MINORITY OF ONE~!!" I swear this Awr person is either the most disingenuous person alive or is simply incapable of reading. |
Liquid_Pestilence (OP) User ID: 26997671 United States 01/11/2013 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Acting with an assist from CNN, right-wing bloggers and gun advocates in the know, let loose with a tidbit of information they have, no doubt, been long chomping at the bit to unleash—the revelation that there is already a law on the books that would prevent the government from making good on Biden’s tantalizing suggestion, a law that would actually prevent the government from collecting data on firearm ownership and more. And what might that law be? Obamacare. [link to www.forbes.com] "Fear paints pictures of ghosts and hangs them in the gallery of ignorance." Robert Green Ingersoll |