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OP hasn't seen my 5 posts asking.. and I'm leaving this thread.. but if they gave you metoprolol that is the right thing to give you, and getting freaked out is only gonna make stuff worse...

Hope someone else can help him..
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I've had weird heart palpitations, went to the docs they checked my heart, no heart attack, no blood clots, no telling me what the cause could be, no asking me what my diets like or if I smoke, yet they give me PILLS?!?

I hits me on and off. My heart beats really fast and I feel like I'm going to die. I've already said my goodbyes to my kids and wife, that's how bad it is.

PLEASE SOMEONE if you know anything please let me know.
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HAve y0u been checked for LYME DISEASE? This is a symptom if it came on sudden. Send some bloodwork to Igenics immediately. I had the exact same symptom. I have LYME.
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OP, Tell them that you want a EKG with a stress test. Don't take what I am saying lightly. They won't do this unless you force it. You will know the problem if you listen to what I just told you
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Thanks to everyone who tried to help me. You don't know how much I appreciate it.
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OP hasn't seen my 5 posts asking.. and I'm leaving this thread.. but if they gave you metoprolol that is the right thing to give you, and getting freaked out is only gonna make stuff worse...

Hope someone else can help him..
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Yes this is right and a low dose potassium pill always helps me go back into regular rhythm !OP did you see a cardiologist?If you did get a second opinion.If not ask for a cardiology consult!Tell them you want to wear a monitor for a couple of weeks.This has a better chance of showing the rhythm disturbance but doesn't always as was the case before one of my surgeries.....the minute the surgeries were over however all hell broke loose and the metoprolol alone did not fix the problem......once I told them to check the potassium and it returned WAY low I was given a potassium pill and all was well within the hour!Now if I feel that my heart is about to go out of rhythm I take a low dose potassium pill and lie down and rest....this has always worked for me!
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I've had weird heart palpitations, went to the docs they checked my heart, no heart attack, no blood clots, no telling me what the cause could be, no asking me what my diets like or if I smoke, yet they give me PILLS?!?

I hits me on and off. My heart beats really fast and I feel like I'm going to die. I've already said my goodbyes to my kids and wife, that's how bad it is.

PLEASE SOMEONE if you know anything please let me know.
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Magnesium deficiency? I'd take Magnesium pills 600mg per day. Not a drug - just a natural supplement, yet it can save lives. It makes you sleep better, too.
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sorry

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Perpetually dumbfounded.

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They dont party you fucking idiot.

OP: WHAT MEDICATION DID THEY GIVE YOU?

do you have any risk factors?

WHAT TESTS DID THEY DO?

any other symptoms?

how long have you had palpitations and how frequently?

lots of people have symptoms that indicate to the dr that it is not "a serious problem" , in other words lots of people have arythmias and if your DR didnt hear a problem with your heart beat when he listened to it, and the tests were allegedly fine, they may not want to do anything else unless your condition worsens.

i work with medical insurance all day long convincing them to pay for tests using their guidelines (all insurance companies have this process and i dont think people know about it).... i look in the charts and try to "prove" based on patient symptoms AS PROVIDED BY THE PATIENT AT THE DR'S OFFICE. unfortunately doctors are always rushed and ITS YOUR JOB TO MAKE SURE TO TELL THEM EVERYTHING , have you had ANY dizziness, shortness of breath, swelling in your legs and feet, leg pain, syncope (pass out) or near syncope, chest pain, arm pain, jaw pain, are you old? do you have a fmaily history of heart disease, have you ever done cocaine, are you fat (hi BMI?) ?

anyways. unfortunately the patient has to do the work to make sure they get the care they deserve. i would say based on what EXTREMELY LITTLE info you gave to the thread , that you are probably fine. if you get more symptoms or more frequent symptoms call and schedule a follow up and demand more testing.

whether or not your insurance will pay for it will most likely depend on what you tell your dr your symptoms are and what she writes in the chart. in other words... you didnt hear it form me but if you REALLY want more testing that your dr REALLY doesnt think you need , then either ask for a referral to a cardiologist who will order expensive tests ALL day long or tell your doctor some more mad eup symptoms (NOT ADVISABLE AND COULD EFFECT YOUR FUTURE HEALTH CARE IN THE FUTURE~!!!!!!!!!!)
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some posters already mentioned potassium and magnesium. if you aren't already taking them maybe you should try. too much magnesium and you get the runs and can then back off. a couple 100 mg of potassium per day is safe from what I have been reading. maybe take the potassium first and see what happens in a few days and if nothing then try the magnesium. they are both water soluble so there shouldn't be a build up. google info about them before taking them or anything.
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Most people take more time and acquire more information when choosing a car than they do finding a doctor. The worst mistake you can make. Do your homework beforehand! There are a lot of terrible doctors out there you need to watch for.
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go to [link to www.earthclinic.com] for health info. learn to take care of yourself.
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i'll be short :

your problem like anyone is excess cholestrol. which should be handled by liver. liver eventually run out of space holding all the bad fat - fatty liver. this will give you first - bad body odor, inconsistant stools(mostly constipated) and less dark. if its light color that means gall bladder is full of cholestrol and if it stays that way without proper food it would turn into stones. when the stones try to pass out of 1000's of liver ducts you'll feel the symptoms you've mentioned. you'ld feel like you're having heart attack. remember that liver is sitting right beneath your lungs and encapsulating heart.

solution: cut excess fat but not completely. try to get liver cleanse and in the meantime take raw acv(start with a tablespoon in a glass of water). lemon water will also soothe the symptoms. it might take a year or two to completely rid of stones in the liver. you can fix your problem by reading book by andreas moritz: amazing gallbladder flush.

you'll not only cure yourself of this misery but also inspire others around you. remember that unless you address liver all other solutions are temporary fix!

all the best
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Perpetually dumbfounded.

“I have learned now that while those who speak about one's miseries usually hurt, those who keep silence hurt more." C.S. Lewis

“Sticks and stones may break your bones but words can break hearts.”
Tim Minchin
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I've had weird heart palpitations, went to the docs they checked my heart, no heart attack, no blood clots, no telling me what the cause could be, no asking me what my diets like or if I smoke, yet they give me PILLS?!?

I hits me on and off. My heart beats really fast and I feel like I'm going to die. I've already said my goodbyes to my kids and wife, that's how bad it is.

PLEASE SOMEONE if you know anything please let me know.
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proper diagnosis viz. arrhythmia/tachycardia etc not possible without ECG.

change doctor or you're a chump.

and in any case, without useful info about you, eg, height, weight , diet, family medical history, lifetime exercise patterns, current diet, childhood diet, social situation, relationships, work patterns, i'd not give you any advice.
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Sounds like you have an anxiety problem.

Uh. In case you haven't noticed - GLP is all about provoking anxiety. I suggest you stop coming to GLP. It's all about *FEAR!* and *ANXIETY!* and *WORRY!*

There's nothing but fear mongering assholes who want your attention, and make you anxious in the process.



I'm only young (37). I had a heart attack when I was 35. They put me on numerous pills. I was fine until on Sunday my heart had weird palpitations. Went to the docs they have me more pills. Was fine taking pills until this morning. Woke up feeling great until I took pills. Thought I'd die. Just calmed down now. I don't know what the fuck!?!!
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Coast to Coast am show had a researcher on a couple of nights ago that says doctors and their big pharma only treat the symptoms and not the cause.

He didn't seem too far out there as far as natural remedies but believes doctors need to use the natural medicines much more than they do.

He has been doing studies with a "red wine pill" that he claims is doing wonders. He also said that anyone who emails him about their problem he will answer if they mention the c2c show.

He also had a surgeon on with him for part of the time who was very impressed by the "red wine pill" saying that it activates your own stem cells into healing you instead of having to be injected with them.

The researchers name is Bill Sardi.

Anyway, if you are interested here's the link to the show which also has his website linked.

[link to www.coasttocoastam.com]

I was impressed because he seemed to be somewhere in between traditional medicine & natural. He gave scientific evidence (as did the surgeon) for the miracles happening with the red wine pill. It did cover heart conditions and dozens of other things. He wants the medical field to be more receptive to natural things as this.
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I've had weird heart palpitations, went to the docs they checked my heart, no heart attack, no blood clots, no telling me what the cause could be, no asking me what my diets like or if I smoke, yet they give me PILLS?!?

I hits me on and off. My heart beats really fast and I feel like I'm going to die. I've already said my goodbyes to my kids and wife, that's how bad it is.

PLEASE SOMEONE if you know anything please let me know.
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Yeah, it's been that way for at least ten to fifteen years here in the States. I can get more info out of my doc since he's a personal friend, but if I ever go to the ER, there is no diagnosis in sight.
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Also do not take any meds if you can do it, and no over-the-counter meds AT ALL, and see if you still have it. FYI:
I almost went to the ER last year, a new type of ingredient in Nose Spray OXYMETAZOLINE. Heart was so erratic, it was terrifying, until the crap wore off.
Went online and found a lot of folks had the same, one woman did have a heart condition from it and almost died.
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Also had a drug allergy and a delyed hypersensitivity reaction ( allergic to sulfa) and had bad heart palps for a year. Had to wear a holter monitor to check it out.(PVCs)
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5* for truth of the matter.

Absolute BS for the service that 21st century GP's serve out.

Don't take the pills...it's not fixing the problem, at all.

hf

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No advise from me...Iam no doctor!

austrailia?..dont know anything bout the healthcare there..Good luck
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I'm only young (37). I had a heart attack when I was 35. They put me on numerous pills. I was fine until on Sunday my heart had weird palpitations. Went to the docs they have me more pills. Was fine taking pills until this morning. Woke up feeling great until I took pills. Thought I'd die. Just calmed down now. I don't know what the fuck!?!!
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Two things off the top of my head. I'd go to the pharmacist and let him know all the drugs you are taking. They are often good at finding the ones that causes your problem.

Second, I'd start taking magnesium, maybe 500 mgs a day. It helps to regulate heart beats.

Irregular heart beat is a bigger killer than blocked arteries.

I'd also be adding 200 mgs of CoQ10 in a single serving each day and I would start taking the herb hawthorn a couple times a day.
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I had the same problem a year ago with the heart palpitations. The pain was so severe i would drop to my knees and be gasping for air on the floor.
Had the same problem with the doctors, so i may be able to help you out to some degree.

I fixed/applied the following and haven't had a problem since.

1) hows your stress levels, and rest/sleep.

2) your diet, how much processed foods involved.
Energy drinks and "aspertame" (in alot of things) are renowned for heart problems.

3) clean water- no flouride, heavy metals.

Those 3 things will fix virtually the cause of any problem.
High blood pressure could also be a culperate, but is solved by the above.

Do you have any other symptoms?

Another consideration would be spiritual phenomena.
Lots of this going around these days, which tend to have quite a few uncomfortable symptoms.

Energy blockages, suppressed emotions will result in heart palpitations. As would the opening of the heart Chakra.

I discovered later on my cause was a combination of really high stress and a chakra opening.

Hope you sort it out.
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Bro I'm doing all of that now. Since Sunday when It happened I have even been exercising more. BUT same shit happened 45mins ago?!? I don't understand, I really don't.
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Sounds like your stressing a bit, which is understandable, but its not gonna do you any good.
Stop taking random pills the GP is giving you, it will just produce more unwanted symptoms.

If you have tried all the usual physical treatments, diet exercise, doctors etc to no avail. I think its time you started approaching the last possibility. Why are you truly being faced with this problem. Think about it.

The body doesn't just get sick. Their is a cause. If the psychical side is in good form, there is only one option left, The psych.
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They dont party you fucking idiot.

OP: WHAT MEDICATION DID THEY GIVE YOU?

do you have any risk factors?

WHAT TESTS DID THEY DO?

any other symptoms?

how long have you had palpitations and how frequently?

lots of people have symptoms that indicate to the dr that it is not "a serious problem" , in other words lots of people have arythmias and if your DR didnt hear a problem with your heart beat when he listened to it, and the tests were allegedly fine, they may not want to do anything else unless your condition worsens.

i work with medical insurance all day long convincing them to pay for tests using their guidelines (all insurance companies have this process and i dont think people know about it).... i look in the charts and try to "prove" based on patient symptoms AS PROVIDED BY THE PATIENT AT THE DR'S OFFICE. unfortunately doctors are always rushed and ITS YOUR JOB TO MAKE SURE TO TELL THEM EVERYTHING , have you had ANY dizziness, shortness of breath, swelling in your legs and feet, leg pain, syncope (pass out) or near syncope, chest pain, arm pain, jaw pain, are you old? do you have a fmaily history of heart disease, have you ever done cocaine, are you fat (hi BMI?) ?

anyways. unfortunately the patient has to do the work to make sure they get the care they deserve. i would say based on what EXTREMELY LITTLE info you gave to the thread , that you are probably fine. if you get more symptoms or more frequent symptoms call and schedule a follow up and demand more testing.

whether or not your insurance will pay for it will most likely depend on what you tell your dr your symptoms are and what she writes in the chart. in other words... you didnt hear it form me but if you REALLY want more testing that your dr REALLY doesnt think you need , then either ask for a referral to a cardiologist who will order expensive tests ALL day long or tell your doctor some more mad eup symptoms (NOT ADVISABLE AND COULD EFFECT YOUR FUTURE HEALTH CARE IN THE FUTURE~!!!!!!!!!!)
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Wow..what did I do to warrant that?? suicide
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I suppose you are just going to have to think about it. It was obvious to others.
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Two things off the top of my head. I'd go to the pharmacist and let him know all the drugs you are taking. They are often good at finding the ones that causes your problem.

Second, I'd start taking magnesium, maybe 500 mgs a day. It helps to regulate heart beats.

Irregular heart beat is a bigger killer than blocked arteries.

I'd also be adding 200 mgs of CoQ10 in a single serving each day and I would start taking the herb hawthorn a couple times a day.
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This is good advice, especially about taking all the drugs you're on to the pharmacist, you ought to do that.

Magnesium comes in different forms, magnesium glycinate is a good one, also magnesium chloride. Other kinds can loosen your bowels more than these two in my experience.

Do not take magnesium oxide or magnesium aspartate. Those are bad forms that won't do you any good, from what I've read.

Magnesium citrate is one I've tried recently, I've heard it's bioavailable, it's cheap, but seems to loosen my bowels more than the other two I stated, even when taking with taurine.
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Did they hook you up to machines to get heart readings?
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YES and it was fine??? They don't know what's wrong yet they give me pills?!!?! Wtf?!!
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You need to demand a halter monitor. It is a device that you wear for several days, and write down when you feel these palps, and they can compare it to what the monitor has recorded.

I have an off again on again flutter. If I force a cough the arrhythmia resolves itself. I take 81mg of aspirin a day to avoid the potential of clots from this arrhythmia.

No I have no insurance, and can't afford to go to the doctor, so it is undiagnosed. The only reason I am aware of these measures are due to the fact my son had SVT many years ago, and under the advice of a cardiologist this is what was prescribed.

If you have insurance, definitely look into the halter monitor, as it seems these events hardly ever coincide with an ER, or Dr. visits. Good luck hf
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Research Anatabloc please OP
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amazing how everyone is completely wrong on all remedies..its lyme, 1 billion people have it on earth..studied it for years
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amazing how everyone is completely wrong on all remedies..its lyme, 1 billion people have it on earth..studied it for years
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I have that too ... fact is, it is still an arrhythmia, even if a lyme induced arrhythmia . What's the difference ?? Once the damage is done, you can't reverse it.

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