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FLU-MEGGADON: Major Flu Epidemic Spreads Across Country. Despite Shots - Over 100 Dead!

 
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i would be a good idea to also drink plenty of green and red tea as well.

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want some that actually works on a flu?

ACEROLA CHERRY POWDER!

"The acerola cherry is mostly noted for its high concentration of ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Fresh acerola can contain as much as 3.5% ascorbic acid by weight, and a 180mL glass of fresh squeezed acerola juice can contain as much vitamin C as 14 liters of orange juice! The vitamin C in the acerola cherry also has a higher absorbance into the body than other natural sources. One study found that the bio-availibility of vitamin C in acerola is 1.63 times higher than that found in synthetic sources. Acerola is also a source of vitamin C, iron, calcium, phosphorus, and vitamin B, although levels do not typically exceed 10% of your recommended daily allowance."

[link to blog.healthkismet.com]

I keep telling people this and they DON'T LISTEN!

Yet everyone that has actually tried it has reported back that it worked. Iv'e used it at least 4-5 times on a flu and guess what? I felt better within 24 hrs.

This stuff kills tumor growth, very powerful and underestimated stuff.
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


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EPIDEMIC: Flu Widespread In 41 States And 2,257 People Have Been Hospitalized, Even People Who Get The Flu Shot Can Get Sick,18 Children Dead; ‘Still Accelerating’, H1N1 Flu Deaths in China; 1 Million Treated In Week…

[link to investmentwatchblog.com]


A major influenza epidemic is taking hold across much of the United States, but there’s a curious lack of coverage in the media.

Dr. Kent Sepkowitz looks at the strain of flu hitting us and whether a vaccine will work.

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]


The flu virus is so widespread in the U.S., it could actually slow Q1 growth.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]


Boston declares public health emergency as flu cases rise nationwide

[link to www.foxnews.com]


Cleveland Clinic Doctor Warns: Stay Away From High-Dose Flu Shot

[link to www.newsmaxhealth.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


Hey doorbert! I wanted to tell you about flu symptoms.

Did you knew that 80% of all engeinered bio weapons are based of flu symptoms!

Its much easier to cover up.

What is being released is not the flu. its a plague.

News media are oing to break out a lie about it. They will say its the legionaire disease that has mutated.

But its a plague that has no cure.

People expect something like Ebola, kills fast and spread fast.

But its meerly a very long incubation time.

in 2 month the eggs will hatches and the flu... well wont be a flu anymore.

Its still conected to synthia, however its not directly releated to the miami outbreak and other canibalism events.

Avoid large cluster of population.
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want some that actually works on a flu?

ACEROLA CHERRY POWDER!

"The acerola cherry is mostly noted for its high concentration of ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Fresh acerola can contain as much as 3.5% ascorbic acid by weight, and a 180mL glass of fresh squeezed acerola juice can contain as much vitamin C as 14 liters of orange juice! The vitamin C in the acerola cherry also has a higher absorbance into the body than other natural sources. One study found that the bio-availibility of vitamin C in acerola is 1.63 times higher than that found in synthetic sources. Acerola is also a source of vitamin C, iron, calcium, phosphorus, and vitamin B, although levels do not typically exceed 10% of your recommended daily allowance."

[link to blog.healthkismet.com]

I keep telling people this and they DON'T LISTEN!

Yet everyone that has actually tried it has reported back that it worked. Iv'e used it at least 4-5 times on a flu and guess what? I felt better within 24 hrs.

This stuff kills tumor growth, very powerful and underestimated stuff.
 Quoting: Silvanus


Going to order this now from Swansons vitamins, Thanks for sharing !
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want some that actually works on a flu?

ACEROLA CHERRY POWDER!

"The acerola cherry is mostly noted for its high concentration of ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Fresh acerola can contain as much as 3.5% ascorbic acid by weight, and a 180mL glass of fresh squeezed acerola juice can contain as much vitamin C as 14 liters of orange juice! The vitamin C in the acerola cherry also has a higher absorbance into the body than other natural sources. One study found that the bio-availibility of vitamin C in acerola is 1.63 times higher than that found in synthetic sources. Acerola is also a source of vitamin C, iron, calcium, phosphorus, and vitamin B, although levels do not typically exceed 10% of your recommended daily allowance."

[link to blog.healthkismet.com]

I keep telling people this and they DON'T LISTEN!

Yet everyone that has actually tried it has reported back that it worked. Iv'e used it at least 4-5 times on a flu and guess what? I felt better within 24 hrs.

This stuff kills tumor growth, very powerful and underestimated stuff.
 Quoting: Silvanus


Going to order this now from Swansons vitamins, Thanks for sharing !
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awesome! If you haven't checked out my MSM thread I highly recommend it, as Acerola cherry powder goes hand in hand with this stuff. I'm currently writing a book on it.

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Last Edited by Silvanus on 01/11/2013 12:00 PM
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


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A lot of vibrant young people seem to be dying from it.
Very sad story:
[link to www.cnn.com]

(CNN) -- The common flu rarely kills the young and healthy, but the Schwolert family knows it can.
Their 17-year-old son Max felt ill on December 22 as the family drove to Wisconsin for Christmas vacation, beginning a series of ups and downs that would ultimately claim his life.
At first, Max took Tylenol for his symptoms: a mild fever and nausea.
He woke up the next morning feeling well enough to play in the snow with his two sisters. His family endearingly called him "Panda," for his gentle nature and 6' 4" height.
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A lot of vibrant young people seem to be dying from it.
Very sad story:
[link to www.cnn.com]

(CNN) -- The common flu rarely kills the young and healthy, but the Schwolert family knows it can.
Their 17-year-old son Max felt ill on December 22 as the family drove to Wisconsin for Christmas vacation, beginning a series of ups and downs that would ultimately claim his life.
At first, Max took Tylenol for his symptoms: a mild fever and nausea.
He woke up the next morning feeling well enough to play in the snow with his two sisters. His family endearingly called him "Panda," for his gentle nature and 6' 4" height.
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wtf
When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter


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The law requiring everyone be signed up in some "healthcare plan", or face fines, just before the healthcare authorities start to declare an epidemic in certain areas of the nation sure seems coincidental. Is this a consequence of messing with peoples immune systems over the years, or did they see this coming, or was this a created "crisis", or is this a "false" crisis being blown out of proportion, used to justify the introduction of new "solutions" and "innovations"?
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EPIDEMIC: Flu Widespread In 41 States And 2,257 People Have Been Hospitalized, Even People Who Get The Flu Shot Can Get Sick,18 Children Dead; ‘Still Accelerating’, H1N1 Flu Deaths in China; 1 Million Treated In Week…

[link to investmentwatchblog.com]


A major influenza epidemic is taking hold across much of the United States, but there’s a curious lack of coverage in the media.

Dr. Kent Sepkowitz looks at the strain of flu hitting us and whether a vaccine will work.

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]


The flu virus is so widespread in the U.S., it could actually slow Q1 growth.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]


Boston declares public health emergency as flu cases rise nationwide

[link to www.foxnews.com]


Cleveland Clinic Doctor Warns: Stay Away From High-Dose Flu Shot

[link to www.newsmaxhealth.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


All of the dead had the flu shot


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BUT THE GUNS KILL PEOPLE NOT HEALTHCARE!
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EPIDEMIC: Flu Widespread In 41 States And 2,257 People Have Been Hospitalized, Even People Who Get The Flu Shot Can Get Sick,18 Children Dead; ‘Still Accelerating’, H1N1 Flu Deaths in China; 1 Million Treated In Week…

[link to investmentwatchblog.com]


A major influenza epidemic is taking hold across much of the United States, but there’s a curious lack of coverage in the media.

Dr. Kent Sepkowitz looks at the strain of flu hitting us and whether a vaccine will work.

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]


The flu virus is so widespread in the U.S., it could actually slow Q1 growth.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]


Boston declares public health emergency as flu cases rise nationwide

[link to www.foxnews.com]


Cleveland Clinic Doctor Warns: Stay Away From High-Dose Flu Shot

[link to www.newsmaxhealth.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


Hey doorbert! I wanted to tell you about flu symptoms.

Did you knew that 80% of all engeinered bio weapons are based of flu symptoms!

Its much easier to cover up.

What is being released is not the flu. its a plague.

News media are oing to break out a lie about it. They will say its the legionaire disease that has mutated.

But its a plague that has no cure.

People expect something like Ebola, kills fast and spread fast.

But its meerly a very long incubation time.

in 2 month the eggs will hatches and the flu... well wont be a flu anymore.

Its still conected to synthia, however its not directly releated to the miami outbreak and other canibalism events.

Avoid large cluster of population.
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


Yes sir, a slow incubation with a severe final symptom killing you off, is much more likely to spread than a quick spreading and quick killing disease.
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A lot of vibrant young people seem to be dying from it.
Very sad story:
[link to www.cnn.com]

(CNN) -- The common flu rarely kills the young and healthy, but the Schwolert family knows it can.
Their 17-year-old son Max felt ill on December 22 as the family drove to Wisconsin for Christmas vacation, beginning a series of ups and downs that would ultimately claim his life.
At first, Max took Tylenol for his symptoms: a mild fever and nausea.
He woke up the next morning feeling well enough to play in the snow with his two sisters. His family endearingly called him "Panda," for his gentle nature and 6' 4" height.
(snip)
 Quoting: qw 27987235


wtf
 Quoting: Silvanus


Cytokine storm, no doubt. Healthy people with strong immune systems deliver a stronger response, and sometimes certain illnesses invoke that and so healthy young people die.

That's not uncommon, and something that should WAKE YOU THE HELL UP! And despite saying over and over to prepare and learn skills until we're blue in the face and trying to find ways every day to teach people one more way to prepare and still.....nothing...inertia...passivity. It's freaking annoying.
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A lot of vibrant young people seem to be dying from it.
Very sad story:
[link to www.cnn.com]

(CNN) -- The common flu rarely kills the young and healthy, but the Schwolert family knows it can.
Their 17-year-old son Max felt ill on December 22 as the family drove to Wisconsin for Christmas vacation, beginning a series of ups and downs that would ultimately claim his life.
At first, Max took Tylenol for his symptoms: a mild fever and nausea.
He woke up the next morning feeling well enough to play in the snow with his two sisters. His family endearingly called him "Panda," for his gentle nature and 6' 4" height.
(snip)
 Quoting: qw 27987235


wtf
 Quoting: Silvanus


Cytokine storm, no doubt. Healthy people with strong immune systems deliver a stronger response, and sometimes certain illnesses invoke that and so healthy young people die.

That's not uncommon, and something that should WAKE YOU THE HELL UP! And despite saying over and over to prepare and learn skills until we're blue in the face and trying to find ways every day to teach people one more way to prepare and still.....nothing...inertia...passivity. It's freaking annoying.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid



Cytokine storm. So what do you do? Bolster your immune system just to learn that a healthy immune system is the part that will kill you? I'm sticking with my high immunity plan. To hell with it. If I get sick and it kills me, I guess shit happens, right?
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BREAKING:

CDC says flu reaches epidemic level in U.S


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EPIDEMIC: Flu Widespread In 41 States And 2,257 People Have Been Hospitalized, Even People Who Get The Flu Shot Can Get Sick,18 Children Dead; ‘Still Accelerating’, H1N1 Flu Deaths in China; 1 Million Treated In Week…

[link to investmentwatchblog.com]


A major influenza epidemic is taking hold across much of the United States, but there’s a curious lack of coverage in the media.

Dr. Kent Sepkowitz looks at the strain of flu hitting us and whether a vaccine will work.

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]


The flu virus is so widespread in the U.S., it could actually slow Q1 growth.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]


Boston declares public health emergency as flu cases rise nationwide

[link to www.foxnews.com]


Cleveland Clinic Doctor Warns: Stay Away From High-Dose Flu Shot

[link to www.newsmaxhealth.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


Hey doorbert! I wanted to tell you about flu symptoms.

Did you knew that 80% of all engeinered bio weapons are based of flu symptoms!

Its much easier to cover up.

What is being released is not the flu. its a plague.

News media are oing to break out a lie about it. They will say its the legionaire disease that has mutated.

But its a plague that has no cure.

People expect something like Ebola, kills fast and spread fast.

But its meerly a very long incubation time.

in 2 month the eggs will hatches and the flu... well wont be a flu anymore.

Its still conected to synthia, however its not directly releated to the miami outbreak and other canibalism events.

Avoid large cluster of population.
 Quoting: Blitz the storm-striker


Yes sir, a slow incubation with a severe final symptom killing you off, is much more likely to spread than a quick spreading and quick killing disease.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29283456

Is anybody besides me connecting this to the Olympic ceremony? The opening ceremony where we had all the children in hospital beds, and the closing ceremony where a representative from every nation took a token with them back to their country....

Is there any of this flu stuff happening in any other country?
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CDC says flu reaches epidemic level in U.S


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 Quoting: DoorBert


i've said it before on here...

This isnt your typical flu...

This is some very bad shit...

and its only gonna get worse if my suspicions are correct.

Everyone needs to take offensive measures to prevent getting sick.

my wallet isnt the biggest lol
but i bought 500 Vit C pills of 500 mg a pill and i've been taking 1000mg(2 pills) at morning and a 1000mg at night. cost was 10 bucks

Please find some method of prevention.

hf

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Shots might become mandatory
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Blown waaaaay out of proportion. 2000 is a minuscule fraction of US population. 100 people dies every day in an average US small town.

Look at the bottom of this thread, how many threads on the same subject....13 threads posted within the past 2 days.
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Looks like the beginning of a new flu-campaign, like we had a few years ago

I wonder, why is it so important to scare people???????

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Cytokine storm. So what do you do? Bolster your immune system just to learn that a healthy immune system is the part that will kill you? I'm sticking with my high immunity plan. To hell with it. If I get sick and it kills me, I guess shit happens, right?
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Now that we are officially at epidemic numbers, the best treatment is avoiding public events. Buying supplies so you don't have to go back and get exposed to coughing people. Paying at the gas pump not going inside.

Then you do nasal rinses once a week with clean water that's been boiled and salt added. Then you know it's safer. If the passages are irrigated then they are cleaner. That interferes with germs. Believe me, you will have some germs always, but it's when it overwhelms your system that it's bad.

Yes, boost your immune system when not sick. Exercise. Eat healthy especially now. Load up on antioxidants. Drink clean non-fluridated water. Get proper natural sleep.

If you get sick. Kinda tired been saying this over and over in numerous topics, try:

1. Don't take cough suppressants. You need to expel the mucus. You need an expectorant. Use a cough suppressant at night to get sleep. Avoid menthol, or minimally use it. Menthol while thinning mucus ALSO INCREASES MUCUS PRODUCTION. It's counter-productive. It can clear the sinuses briefly then do a nasal rinse and stop using the menthol. If you wish to do that, try some chinese mustard since it contains horseradish and that also clears the sinuses and doesn't cause more mucus.
2. Use an inhaler and an extender to relax the smooth muscle of the respiratory tract. You are coughing because the mucus is building up to trap the pathogen. See point #1
3. Still do a nasal rinse as above to wash away the infection. If you have a wound, then you clean it first, right?
4. If a patient can't cough up mucus, then do percusive therapy. See my sig or do a GLP search. You tap the shoulders, back, or chest and this mechanically loosens the mucus plug. Then they can cough it up.
5. Don't swallow mucus. Expel it. Swallowed mucus traps food particles and bacteria and believe it or not, mucus then often rises again along the respiratory tract and throat and is reinserted into your nose. You're making yourself sicker. You could get a secondary bacterial infection.
6. If your fever is less that 102 and your mucus is clear, you have a virus. There are few medicines. Tamiflu only shortens the symptom length. If there are shortages, they will limit prescibing it anyway.
7. If your fever is 102+ and your mucus is dark yellow or green, then it contains dying white blood cells. That's what colors mucus. You have a bacterial infection. Get antibiotics.
8. If not feverish, then take warm baths, not showers to increase lymph flow. Often people can go into shock when they get too chilled.
9. Massage the sinuses to push infected material out. Don't give overall massage as it could push the infection towards the heart and organs. A clogged sinus can easily get a bacterial infection and now you have two problems.
10. If vomiting and/or diarrhea (gasteroenteritis), then you need oral rehydrating solution (ORS)to stay hydrated. See my sig on instructions. Many people get sicker because of this.
11. If you are vomiting or have diarrhea is could be Norovirus. Usually that is a LOT of these two. It's usually both. You especially need ORS. Expect the whole family to get it as it is highly contagious.
12. If you have vomiting and respiratory illness, chances are that if your mucus is yellow or green you have a specific bacterial infection called Staph aureus. You need antibiotics. Most "flu" (respiratory illness) doesn't have vomiting.
12a. If someone gets dehydrated, their blood pressure could drop. Raise their legs above their head. They could go into shock. Keep them warm. Prevention is way easier than dealing with this.
13. Take your temperature regularly. Write it down. In fact write down your symptoms. You need to clearly and concisely communicate exactly your symptoms so you get the right medicine.
14. If sick and there are people around, segregate yourself as much as possible and use a mask when outside the room to minimize THEM getting sick. The last thing you need is everyone sick at once.
15. If a young person (typically) has coughing in which they hack and cough and then must suck in air and make a distinctive sound (pertusis or whooping cough) then you need to go right away to the doc for treatment.
16. If a young child or baby can't or won't blow their nose, use a snotsucker. You need to get that out of there, or they will definitely get sicker.
17. If a baby gets sick with clear mucus and wheezes, then most likely they have RSV (viral). You can gently tap and do percussive therapy to dislodge the mucus. Ask if you can do breathing treatments at home. Watch them like a hawk. They can get very weak, can't rouse them, won't eat so fussy, etc. Seek treatment.
18. Don't eat dairy or cut it way back if not a baby on formula. Milk helps create mucus and that is the last thing you want.Milk is largely digested in the intestines so avoided with gasteroenteritis like Norovirus.
19. If nothing will bring up mucus, and it's clear, and you have a dry hacking cough, then you especially need a vaporizer. There are special teas and cough syrup for this. Find one with slippery elm as that sooths the best. Liquorice root too. Both ingredients if you find one. Youcan't use liquorice root is you are on heart medication. Breathe Easy tea and Throat Coat tea are both found in most grocery or drug stores and are great.
20. You can't get strong if you don't eat. Find something you can eat. If you're having trouble keeping food down then eat very small portions.
21. If you have bad diarrhea, most of the time you want to expel it. If it's ridiculous, then use loperimide (Imodium). The generic is far cheaper and the same. It relaxes the spasm.
22.If you have an ear ache, you could easily stumble and fall. Don't let people with ear aches drive or walk around without help. It's very painful. They lose their balance because that sense is developed inside the ear. Falls usually happen when they shower.
23. It's very common for someone to have atypical pneumonia and be misdiagnosed. They most often have clear mucus and a hacking cough. All patients with this have chills and clammy skin and fever. Body aches. People think you don't have pneumonia, but then a chest Xray shows it. Eye pain which is unusual. Shortness of breath when climbing stairs.
23b. Atypical Pneumonia as above but you could have bloody mucus if Legionella is present but that's usually older people.The elderly are often confused. Diarhea not vomiting.

I hope this helps. It's the main points. Do only the part based upon the symptoms. Wouldn't it be smart to print this and refer to it, and so help diagnose when someone gets sick?

If you have a respiratory illness and then your neck hurts, you have the worst headache of your life, eye pain, sensitiveity to light, then seek treatment. It might be viral or bacterial meningitis. You can't treat that at home.

Last Edited by Don'tBeAfraid on 01/11/2013 03:04 PM
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Blown waaaaay out of proportion. 2000 is a minuscule fraction of US population. 100 people dies every day in an average US small town.

Look at the bottom of this thread, how many threads on the same subject....13 threads posted within the past 2 days.
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Looks like the beginning of a new flu-campaign, like we had a few years ago

I wonder, why is it so important to scare people???????

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CDC: Flu now in 47 states, but may be slowing
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OMG 100 PEOPLE DEAD????

THE FLU HAS NEVER KILLED ANYONE BEFORE!!! NOT EVEN IN THE EARLY 1900'S WHEN THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DROPPED DEAD FOR NO REASON?!?!?!?
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You are completely full of it. The flu has killed people since Man walked this earth. The people that usually die, if you care to check, are the elderly, infants, and unhealthy people. DOOM OFF.
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Why is it that sarcasm is so frequently lost on some people? chuckle
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Blown waaaaay out of proportion. 2000 is a minuscule fraction of US population. 100 people dies every day in an average US small town.

Look at the bottom of this thread, how many threads on the same subject....13 threads posted within the past 2 days.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Looks like the beginning of a new flu-campaign, like we had a few years ago

I wonder, why is it so important to scare people???????
 Quoting: emerald_glow


It is an epidemic. It is overblown. It is also wisdom to learn how to diagnose it to save money, treat it at home doing basic inexpensive things, and only seeking treatment if it exceeds your capacity to deal with it.

A lot of foolish people will rush to the ER and tie up resources when they could have done it themselves. An ER bill is very high, and hospitalization is very expensive.

Don't overreact. Respond practically.
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Cytokine storm. So what do you do? Bolster your immune system just to learn that a healthy immune system is the part that will kill you? I'm sticking with my high immunity plan. To hell with it. If I get sick and it kills me, I guess shit happens, right?
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Now that we are officially at epidemic numbers, the best treatment is avoiding public events. Buying supplies so you don't have to go back and get exposed to coughing people. Paying at the gas pump not going inside.

Then you do nasal rinses once a week with clean water that's been boiled and salt added. Then you know it's safer. If the passages are irrigated then they are cleaner. That interferes with germs. Believe me, you will have some germs always, but it's when it overwhelms your system that it's bad.

Yes, boost your immune system when not sick. Exercise. Eat healthy especially now. Load up on antioxidants. Drink clean non-fluridated water. Get proper natural sleep.

If you get sick. Kinda tired been saying this over and over in numerous topics, try:

1. Don't take cough suppressants. You need to expel the mucus. You need an expectorant. Use a cough suppressant at night to get sleep.
2. Use an inhaler and an extender to relax the smooth muscle of the respiratory tract. You are coughing because the mucus is building up to trap the pathogen. See point #1
3. Still do a nasal rinse as above to wash away the infection. If you have a wound, then you clean it first, right?
4. If a patient can't cough up mucus, then do percusive therapy. See my sig or do a GLP search. You tap the shoulders, back, or chest and this mechanically loosens the mucus plug. Then they can cough it up.
5. Don't swallow mucus. Expel it. Swallowed mucus traps food particles and bacteria and believe it or not, mucus then often rises again along the respiratory tract and throat and is reinserted into your nose. You're making yourself sicker. You could get a secondary bacterial infection.
6. If your fever is less that 102 and your mucus is clear, you have a virus. There are few medicines. Tamiflu only shortens the symptom length. If there are shortages, they will limit prescibing it anyway.
7. If your fever is 102+ and your mucus is dark yellow or green, then it contains dying white blood cells. That's what colors mucus. You have a bacterial infection. Get antibiotics.
8. If not feverish, then take warm baths, not showers to increase lymph flow. Often people can go into shock when they get too chilled.
9. Massage the sinuses to push infected material out. Don't give overall massage as it could push the infection towards the heart and organs. A clogged sinus can easily get a bacterial infection and now you have two problems.
10. If vomiting and/or diarrhea (gasteroenteritis), then you need oral rehydrating solution (ORS)to stay hydrated. See my sig on instructions. Many people get sicker because of this.
11. If you are vomiting or have diarrhea is could be Norovirus. Usually that is a LOT of these two. It's usually both. You especially need ORS. Expect the whole family to get it as it is highly contagious.
12. If you have vomiting and respiratory illness, chances are that if your mucus is yellow or green you have a specific bacterial infection called Staph aureus. You need antibiotics. Most "flu" (respiratory illness) doesn't have vomiting.
12a. If someone gets dehydrated, their blood pressure could drop. Raise their legs above their head. They could go into shock. Keep them warm. Prevention is way easier than dealing with this.
13. Take your temperature regularly. Write it down. In fact write down your symptoms. You need to clearly and concisely communicate exactly your symptoms so you get the right medicine.
14. If sick and there are people around, segregate yourself as much as possible and use a mask when outside the room to minimize THEM getting sick. The last thing you need is everyone sick at once.
15. If a young person (typically) has coughing in which they hack and cough and then must suck in air and make a distinctive sound (pertusis or whooping cough) then you need to go right away to the doc for treatment.
16. If a young child or baby can't or won't blow their nose, use a snotsucker. You need to get that out of there, or they will definitely get sicker.
17. If a baby gets sick with clear mucus and wheezes, then most likely they have RSV (viral). You can gently tap and do percussive therapy to dislodge the mucus. Ask if you can do breathing treatments at home. Watch them like a hawk. They can get very weak, can't rouse them, won't eat so fussy, etc. Seek treatment.
18. Don't eat dairy or cut it way back if not a baby on formula. Milk helps create mucus and that is the last thing you want.Milk is largely digested in the intestines so avoided with gasteroenteritis like Norovirus.
19. If nothing will bring up mucus, and it's clear, and you have a dry hacking cough, then you especially need a vaporizer. There are special teas and cough syrup for this. Find one with slippery elm as that sooths the best. Liquorice root too. Both ingredients if you find one. Youcan't use liquorice root is you are on heart medication. Breathe Easy tea and Throat Coat tea are both found in most grocery or drug stores and are great.
20. You can't get strong if you don't eat. Find something you can eat. If you're having trouble keeping food down then eat very small portions.
21. If you have bad diarrhea, most of the time you want to expel it. If it's ridiculous, then use loperimide (Imodium). The generic is far cheaper and the same. It relaxes the spasm.
22.If you have an ear ache, you could easily stumble and fall. Don't let people with ear aches drive or walk around without help. It's very painful. They lose their balance because that sense is developed inside the ear. Falls usually happen when they shower.
23. It's very common for someone to have atypical pneumonia and be misdiagnosed. They most often have clear mucus and a hacking cough. All patients with this have chills and clammy skin and fever. Body aches. People think you don't have pneumonia, but then a chest Xray shows it. Eye pain which is unusual. Shortness of breath when climbing stairs.
23b. Atypical Pneumonia as above but you could have bloody mucus if Legionella is present but that's usually older people.The elderly are often confused. Diarhea not vomiting.

I hope this helps. It's the main points. Do only the part based upon the symptoms. Wouldn't it be smart to print this and refer to it, and so help diagnose when someone gets sick?

If you have a respiratory illness and then your neck hurts, you have the worst headache of your life, eye pain, then seek treatment. It might be viral or bacterial meningitis. You can't treat that at home.
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Thankfully, I'm up to speed on most of that, but I learned a thing or two, so thanks! It may seem like a waste of time, but putting out good valid information is helpful. Better than BS flags and random ramblings. So your post was appreciated by moi and I am sure there are others here who will find the information helpful. And....because I quoted you, it is displayed again!
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Thankfully, I'm up to speed on most of that, but I learned a thing or two, so thanks! It may seem like a waste of time, but putting out good valid information is helpful. Better than BS flags and random ramblings. So your post was appreciated by moi and I am sure there are others here who will find the information helpful. And....because I quoted you, it is displayed again!
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Thanks. I added that menthol exacerbates mucus production, so minimize it's use. It does thin mucus is in the sinuses, so do it briefly then do a nasal rinse, then stop using it. Or better, use something with horseradish since it opens the sinuses and doesn't cause more mucus.

Look in the refrigerated section of your grocery, often near the dairy items for old fashion prepared horseradish. It's plain, doesn't have the mayonaise. A spoonful of that in your mouth will definitely open the sinuses.
[link to www.herballegacy.com]

It does have a real bite to it, so be prepared for that. The sulphur in it is supposed to be one aspect that helps fight infections as well as the role of reducing sinus pressure.

EDIT:
Here's a link which shows that menthol might make things worse. Use it only in moderation, as it might briefly help, but don't use it long term, like people sucking on menthol cough drops. That's all bad.
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

If you look up the data on Fisherman's Friend cough drops, which are very strong, and open the sinuses, you'll see that you're not supposed to do it with heavy mucus for this reason. Stick to horseradish, if you can tolerate the taste.

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Thankfully, I'm up to speed on most of that, but I learned a thing or two, so thanks! It may seem like a waste of time, but putting out good valid information is helpful. Better than BS flags and random ramblings. So your post was appreciated by moi and I am sure there are others here who will find the information helpful. And....because I quoted you, it is displayed again!
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Thanks. I added that menthol exacerbates mucus production, so minimize it's use. It does thin mucus is in the sinuses, so do it briefly then do a nasal rinse, then stop using it. Or better, use something with horseradish since it opens the sinuses and doesn't cause more mucus.

Look in the refrigerated section of your grocery, often near the dairy items for old fashion prepared horseradish. It's plain, doesn't have the mayonaise. A spoonful of that in your mouth will definitely open the sinuses.
[link to www.herballegacy.com]

It does have a real bite to it, so be prepared for that. The sulphur in it is supposed to be one aspect that helps fight infections as well as the role of reducing sinus pressure.
 Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid


I have some evil Russian mustard that has that effect(on the sinuses) Its not readily available, but Colemans English mustard is similar in effect, though not quite as strong and is available at most markets. I make my own horseradish too, its much hotter than the store. Wasn't aware on the menthol thing. I am an avid user of peppermint oil for headaches and congestion so I'll keep that in mind for next time.

Hot water with honey, ginger and lemon is my go to cure when people feel really rotten, Vit. C, spicy, warming ginger and soothing honey, and the hot steam thins the mucus.
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Peppermint is an extremely common and helpful herb. It grows in a lot of neighborhoods. If we had a collapse in the USA, then peppermint would be one of the top five herbs for those two reasons.

[link to www.umm.edu]

Even this medical center is teaching people about it.

For a headache, you can apply a poultice of peppermint. Now that reveals my age, because most people have no idea what one is.


Don't take it internaly if you have GERD though. While good for digestion is relaxes one of the sphicters that closes off the channel from the esphagus to the stomach, so you'll upchuck more when drinking peppermint on a regular basis.
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OMG 100 PEOPLE DEAD????

THE FLU HAS NEVER KILLED ANYONE BEFORE!!! NOT EVEN IN THE EARLY 1900'S WHEN THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DROPPED DEAD FOR NO REASON?!?!?!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28604765


You are completely full of it. The flu has killed people since Man walked this earth. The people that usually die, if you care to check, are the elderly, infants, and unhealthy people. DOOM OFF.
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OMG that you can't read sarcasm worries me.
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Over-the-counter medicines
What do those ingredients do?

Be careful taking over-the-counter medicines. Many contain ingredients which could be bad for you depending upon your age, your medical conditions, or the medications you're taking.

Common ingredients include:
Pain
1.Aspirin for pain relief, but children shouldn't take it because of Reye Syndrome.
2.Acetaminophen is often given to children but shouldn't be taken by older folks as it's metabolized by the liver and difficult for them to process. Expired acetaminophen is a poison. Check those dates.
3.Naproxen is an excellent pain reliever as it's stronger, but shouldn't be taken by some older folks since metabolized by the liver. Can't take it if you have ulcers, or heart problems.
4.Ibuprofen is a good pain reliever but has a lot of side effects. Not recommended.

Decongestant by definition constrict the blood vessels and sinuses. Not a good idea if on blood pressure medications, right? They also can make you nervous or irritable. Some are restricted. I'm not big on these.
1.Pseudoephedrine: very restricted
2.Phenylephrine : not restricted

Take horseradish to open your sinuses instead. Then a nasal rinse with boiled water and salt. Let it cool obviously.

Expectorants: expel mucus
1.Guaifenesin: very helpful but can't take it if prone to nausea or vomiting. Could exacerbate kidney stones.
2.Ambroxol : not over-the-counter in the USA, but elsewhere. Very helpful. Can't be taken by pregnant women, infants shouldn't take it.
3.Acetylcysteine: might harm the heart and lungs. If you issues with either, I wouldn't use it.

Cough Suppressant ( strong antitussive)
1.Dextromethorphan: Has a lot of side effects like nausea, rash, sleepiness, breathing difficulty, hallucination. Not recommended except times when you need to rest.
2.Noscapine: strong antitussive but a lot of side effects

Use Honey and Lemon instead.

Slippery Elm is a demulcent. It coats and soothes the throat, but it might interfere with absorbtion of your medications. It's best used for sore throat pain and to help dry coughs.

Licorice Root: Opens the airway, stimulates the immune system (eosinophils), and reduces inflammaiton. Can't use it if on heart medications. If you're a smoker, you're getting licorice as an additive. A heart patient who smokes is really messing up if using a tobacco with this.

One could easily take brewed tea of ginger, garlic, onion and eliminate a lot of issues. It's cheaper and no side effects too.

If you can't mess around with making something try Traditional Medicinals Breathe Easy Tea or Throat Coat Tea based upon your symptoms. Both are cheap, locally available, and mild.If you take one with licorice root, you may get buzzy if you drink too much of it. Back off then. Follow the directions.

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