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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14408911 United States 02/10/2013 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did Jesus Live 100 B.C. by G.R.S. Mead [link to gnosis.org] [link to www.amazon.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14408911 United States 02/10/2013 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Apollonius of Tyana (the original Jesus and St.Paul of the Christian religion) [link to gnosis.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 34490192 United States 02/16/2013 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Virtually all scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed.[13][14][34] Quoting: Amilius What we know: -Jesus existed -Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist -Jesus was crucified -The Pharisees and Sadducees that Jesus talked about existed -Pontius Pilate existed [link to amilius4.blogspot.com] Reputable historians still agree Jesus existed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6853586 United States 02/16/2013 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I would like to know is if Lincoln existed... or Plato.. or George Washington, or .. or You can use the same arguements for anyone not activly living. You can also use the same methods to prove they were alive, and the case for Jesus is pretty conclusive, not even taking into account the bible. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 904314 Canada 02/16/2013 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An Essene, Yeshu or Joshu, who lived 100 B.C. is one of the composites of the Savior of Mankind Jesus that was invented much later by the Roman Catholic Church. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14408911 While this may be so, it doesn't explain the reports of a Jesus guy in India during his early adulthood, nor the reports of jesus surviving the crucifixion somehow and heading back to india with his mother, who apparently died along the way on the Silk Road somewhere in what's now known as Pakistan (where they used to have a tomb the locals all said was her, but that got destroyed in one of the big wars for some reason or other, hint hint) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 904314 Canada 02/16/2013 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | with his mother, who apparently died along the way on the Silk Road somewhere in what's now known as Pakistan Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904314 Ah see this link for specifics: [link to www.religionforums.org] |
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IFUK User ID: 34595888 United Kingdom 02/17/2013 05:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I would like to know is if Lincoln existed... or Plato.. or George Washington, or .. or Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853586 You can use the same arguements for anyone not activly living. You can also use the same methods to prove they were alive, and the case for Jesus is pretty conclusive, not even taking into account the bible. We know Lincoln, Plato and George Washington existed because we have contemporary documentation and records not only referring to them, but written by them. There are no such records of Jesus. Anything that mentions the name was written some time after his death. Even his crucifixion wasn't recorded by contemporary historians or commentators. You'd think the execution of such magnitude would have caught the attention of at least one of the most prominent writers of the time: Pliny the younger, Strabo or Seneca - these three are some of history's most prolific historians yet they never make any mention of Jesus. They make mention of Christians, but not Jesus. Not even Pontius Pilate wrote about him by name (the famous letter to Tiberius has been widely discredited). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9142675 United States 02/17/2013 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no real evidence that Jesus existed other than anecdotal. There are no contemporary records that mention him. Quoting: IFUK There is no more evidence to suppose that Jesus was real than there is for Robin Hood, King Arthur, Lancelot, Achilles or Brutus of Troy. Can a 'contemporary record' talk about someone 2,000 years ago? If you dont like the Bible, check what Josephus and Tacitus said. Theres a difference between recorded history and mythology. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9142675 United States 02/17/2013 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I would like to know is if Lincoln existed... or Plato.. or George Washington, or .. or Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6853586 You can use the same arguements for anyone not activly living. You can also use the same methods to prove they were alive, and the case for Jesus is pretty conclusive, not even taking into account the bible. We know Lincoln, Plato and George Washington existed because we have contemporary documentation and records not only referring to them, but written by them. There are no such records of Jesus. Anything that mentions the name was written some time after his death. Even his crucifixion wasn't recorded by contemporary historians or commentators. You'd think the execution of such magnitude would have caught the attention of at least one of the most prominent writers of the time: Pliny the younger, Strabo or Seneca - these three are some of history's most prolific historians yet they never make any mention of Jesus. They make mention of Christians, but not Jesus. Not even Pontius Pilate wrote about him by name (the famous letter to Tiberius has been widely discredited). And if you want to ignore Josephus and Tacitus, see if the Jews kept any record of Jesus, his death and burial. The burial is especially important, because even the Jews recorded the place of the tomb and Joseph of Arimathea facilitating this. Ask yourself why the Jews would record anything regarding Jesus... |
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