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Jesus clearly claimed to be God Almighty that is why He was crucified on the cross. Jesus also clearly accepted worship, Jesus never refused worship. Please read and study the following passages to clear your understanding of who Jesus is who He says He is.
Revelation 1:8: I am the Alpha and the Omega says the Lord God, "who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.
Revelation 1:17-18: When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: Do not be afraid, I am the First and the Last. I am the Living One, I was dead, and behold I am alive forever and ever!
John 10:30: I and the Father are one.
John 8:58: I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I Am (Yah Weh)!
Note: The original Hebrew is YHWH – we add the vowels to match our vernacular.
John 8:19: You do not know me or my Father. "If you knew me you would also know my Father.
John 20:20: Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and My God! Jesus said to him, Thomas because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and believe.
Isaiah 63:5 King James Version
And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me.
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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God stands for truth. So does jesus
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Jesus Christ is God Almighty who created everything. Including every planet and every star in the universe.

Then he took off his power briefly and became a man, then he suffered and died for me and for you without cheating on a cross.

On the 3rd he rose from the dead, and now he waits to see if there will be any left on earth with real faith based on his standards before he comes.

Jesus loves you.....for real. I said Jesus loves you, I did not say organized Christianity loves you.

False Christianity says do this or else, the real Jesus says, just come as you are I paid your debt in full. It is finished.
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Jesus Christ is God Almighty who created everything. Including every planet and every star in the universe.

Then he took off his power briefly and became a man, then he suffered and died for me and for you without cheating on a cross.

On the 3rd he rose from the dead, and now he waits to see if there will be any left on earth with real faith based on his standards before he comes.

Jesus loves you.....for real. I said Jesus loves you, I did not say organized Christianity loves you.

False Christianity says do this or else, the real Jesus says, just come as you are I paid your debt in full. It is finished.
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Apparently, those who truly come to Him, not under the Law for they are incapable of committing sin,.. unless they blasphemy the indwelling Holly Spirit (?)
Or is it the case?
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Jesus Christ is God Almighty who created everything. Including every planet and every star in the universe.

Then he took off his power briefly and became a man, then he suffered and died for me and for you without cheating on a cross.

On the 3rd he rose from the dead, and now he waits to see if there will be any left on earth with real faith based on his standards before he comes.

Jesus loves you.....for real. I said Jesus loves you, I did not say organized Christianity loves you.

False Christianity says do this or else, the real Jesus says, just come as you are I paid your debt in full. It is finished.
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Apparently, those who truly come to Him, not under the Law for they are incapable of committing sin,.. unless they blasphemy the indwelling Holly Spirit (?)
Or is it the case?
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pardon my awkward english!
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John 1:12-16

King James Version (KJV)


"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:"

"Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

"John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me."

"And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace."




1 John 5:6-9

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"This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth."

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

"If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son."




Philippians 2:6-8

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"Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

"But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:"

'And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."





John 20:27-30

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"Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing."

"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

"And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:"
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Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me.

John 7:16

Pretty much proves Jesus isn't God.

Satan loves the trinity.
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"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
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THE WORD, not God yet.
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"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
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THE WORD, not God yet.
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John 1, or you are in denial!
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Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me.

John 7:16

Pretty much proves Jesus isn't God.

Satan loves the trinity.
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He is One in Three, but, you are a masonic shill.
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So God is Jesus. Was Jesus the God of the Old Testament know as Yahew too? If so why would anyone submit to a god that tells one to bash there babies agains a rock. Take all the virgins for yourself. Ad nauseum.

Surely that is love...
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"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
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THE WORD, not God yet.
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John 1, or you are in denial!
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There is a Past Tense, in the Beginning.

Back at you.
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Christians are not trained to think outside their dogmas and doctrines that they were brainwashed into. Clearly not a fault of there own. But to have an intelligent reasonable converstation with a Christian is near impossible as they only use the Bible as there defense because they "believe" that its the infalliable inerrant word of god. So there faith becomes a belief system that is based on no known evidence.

The fact is there is zero evidence in the Old testament or the New testament other than the bible itself that makes these extra ordinary claims.

The bible is not a history book to be tanken literally. Its a SPIRITUAL book.
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Why don't you people do your research properly and get your facts right? This site is

utter BULLSHIT!

scared

JESUS was a PROPHET like many others.

He came here to teach.

Don't you realise the Bible has been distorted to suit certain earthly sgendas of corrupt priests, ever since the Egyptians invaded Babylon?

Wake-up and do your home workp roperly.

Stop wishful thinking!

The answer does not lie "out there" ~ for Him to Save You ~

Look Within, Read, Mark Learn and Widen Your Horizons!

We are not living in a safe haven where "you" are going to be saved, with no effort on your part. Of course not!

Beware, you may snuff out like a candle!


As for Jeohovah the I AM THE I AM ~ who do you suppose he is interested in? HIMSELF, of course!

Don't you recognise his type?

The biggest arrogsnt egotist ever created!

This is a Galactic Problem ~ ask for help, achieve a Higher Consciousness and you can overcome your problems.

lolsign
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I love Jesus!

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“Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.” - Dr. Seuss
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Why don't you people do your research properly and get your facts right? This site is

utter BULLSHIT!

scared

JESUS was a PROPHET like many others.

He came here to teach.

Don't you realise the Bible has been distorted to suit certain earthly sgendas of corrupt priests, ever since the Egyptians invaded Babylon?

Wake-up and do your home workp roperly.

Stop wishful thinking!

The answer does not lie "out there" ~ for Him to Save You ~

Look Within, Read, Mark Learn and Widen Your Horizons!

We are not living in a safe haven where "you" are going to be saved, with no effort on your part. Of course not!

Beware, you may snuff out like a candle!


As for Jeohovah the I AM THE I AM ~ who do you suppose he is interested in? HIMSELF, of course!

Don't you recognise his type?

The biggest arrogsnt egotist ever created!

This is a Galactic Problem ~ ask for help, achieve a Higher Consciousness and you can overcome your problems.

lolsign
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NO!
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Jesus is God's son. He was sent by God.
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... and He Is.
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John 1
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John 1 puts it very nicely.
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"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
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THE WORD, not God yet.
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John 1, or you are in denial!
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There is a Past Tense, in the Beginning.

Back at you.
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You have the time to straighten up, for God does not change.
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Why don't you people do your research properly and get your facts right? This site is

utter BULLSHIT!

scared

JESUS was a PROPHET like many others.

He came here to teach.

Don't you realise the Bible has been distorted to suit certain earthly sgendas of corrupt priests, ever since the Egyptians invaded Babylon?

Wake-up and do your home workp roperly.

Stop wishful thinking!

The answer does not lie "out there" ~ for Him to Save You ~

Look Within, Read, Mark Learn and Widen Your Horizons!

We are not living in a safe haven where "you" are going to be saved, with no effort on your part. Of course not!

Beware, you may snuff out like a candle!


As for Jeohovah the I AM THE I AM ~ who do you suppose he is interested in? HIMSELF, of course!

Don't you recognise his type?

The biggest arrogsnt egotist ever created!

This is a Galactic Problem ~ ask for help, achieve a Higher Consciousness and you can overcome your problems.

lolsign
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NO!
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Whenever you hear someone say "look within" to find God, you know it's bullshit. That's a common lie of the devil that I hear all the time.
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THE WORD, not God yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


John 1, or you are in denial!
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There is a Past Tense, in the Beginning.

Back at you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


You have the time to straighten up, for God does not change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31698570


God´s Word does, though. iamwith
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Why don't you people do your research properly and get your facts right? This site is

utter BULLSHIT!

scared

JESUS was a PROPHET like many others.

He came here to teach.

Don't you realise the Bible has been distorted to suit certain earthly sgendas of corrupt priests, ever since the Egyptians invaded Babylon?

Wake-up and do your home workp roperly.

Stop wishful thinking!

The answer does not lie "out there" ~ for Him to Save You ~

Look Within, Read, Mark Learn and Widen Your Horizons!

We are not living in a safe haven where "you" are going to be saved, with no effort on your part. Of course not!

Beware, you may snuff out like a candle!


As for Jeohovah the I AM THE I AM ~ who do you suppose he is interested in? HIMSELF, of course!

Don't you recognise his type?

The biggest arrogsnt egotist ever created!

This is a Galactic Problem ~ ask for help, achieve a Higher Consciousness and you can overcome your problems.

lolsign
 Quoting: integrator


NO!
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Whenever you hear someone say "look within" to find God, you know it's bullshit. That's a common lie of the devil that I hear all the time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13039567


Yep, they have nearly run out off their evil devices to trick...
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John 1, or you are in denial!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31698570


There is a Past Tense, in the Beginning.

Back at you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


You have the time to straighten up, for God does not change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31698570


God´s Word does, though. iamwith
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


So,.. good luck sticking with your the changes discerned by your heart.
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There is a Past Tense, in the Beginning.

Back at you.
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You have the time to straighten up, for God does not change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31698570


God´s Word does, though. iamwith
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


So,.. good luck sticking with your the changes discerned by your heart.
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The pagans and idolaters will have to unlearn the hard way. Good luck with that.rant
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Aren't we all....
No, it's not a question.
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You have the time to straighten up, for God does not change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31698570


God´s Word does, though. iamwith
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


So,.. good luck sticking with your the changes discerned by your heart.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31698570


The pagans and idolaters will have to unlearn the hard way. Good luck with that.rant
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What is not pagan in your pagan liberalism?!
You see, you have stopped making contextual sense! So, why is that you resort to the totally ungrounded ad hominem verbal assault?
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God´s Word does, though. iamwith
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So,.. good luck sticking with your the changes discerned by your heart.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31698570


The pagans and idolaters will have to unlearn the hard way. Good luck with that.rant
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975

What is not pagan in your pagan liberalism?!
You see, you have stopped making contextual sense! So, why is that you resort to the totally ungrounded ad hominem verbal assault?
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Holy Trinity is pagan. Anti-biblical. Simple as that.
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Jesus is God's son. He was sent by God.
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The Father gave authority to the Son.
He is God manifested in the flesh. Just as important as the father although two different persons of the trinity.
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Jesus cannot be part of the Trinity for several reasons, but I will mention a few.

1. The Trinity exists in the realm of eternity, it cannot enter the time-space universe directly as it would completely ruin the whole reason for its existence.

2. The Eternal Son is the perfect and final expression of the “first” personal and absolute concept of the Universal Father. Accordingly, whenever and however the Father personally and absolutely expresses himself, he does so through his Eternal Son, who ever has been, now is, and ever will be, the living and divine Word. And this Eternal Son is residential at the center of all things, in association with, and immediately enshrouding the personal presence of, the Eternal and Universal Father. There is no possible way for the Eternal Son to directly inhabit a human body in time. The notion is ludicrous.

3. It is logically impossible for Jesus to be God if he is considered to be a Son of God as well. The Trinity consists of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit; the word "God" should imply God in its entirety. God the Son is part of the totality of Deity. More specifically, the Eternal Son cannot be both a Son of God and God the Son; the Eternal Son is the spiritual personalization of the Paradise Father’s universal and infinite concept of divine reality, unqualified spirit, and absolute personality. And thereby does the Son constitute the divine revelation of the creator identity of the Universal Father. The perfect personality of the Son discloses that the Father is actually the eternal and universal source of all the meanings and values of the spiritual, the volitional, the purposeful, and the personal. A real "Son of God" would be a Son of the Trinity, or any of the 7 combinations therein; it would not be the Eternal Son specifically. As long as a Son of God is unique in nature as well as in personality, each can be considered an “only-begotten Son” of the perfect deity ideal of its origin. Jesus embodies the characteristics of God the Father and God the Son, his divine self was the creation of two members of the Trinity.
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The Father gave authority to the Son.
He is God manifested in the flesh.
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Well, the bible says he is the Word of God manifested in flesh. Are you brighter than the bible?
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Jesus is God's son. He was sent by God.
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The Father gave authority to the Son.
He is God manifested in the flesh. Just as important as the father although two different persons of the trinity.
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Yes, just as Jesus told the Apostles.
Baptizing them in the
Name of the Father - GOD
and of the Son - GOD
and of the Holy Spirit - GOD

The triune nature of God is manifest throughout
the scriptures from Genesis to Revelation.

There is ONE GOD, and He has a triune nature.

What is GOD?

The Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Before Jesus stepped off the throne of Heaven
and became flesh, GOD existed eternally as:

The Father, and the Word, and the Holy Spirit.

In God's dealing's with man, the Word of God appears
many times as an angel.
He appeared to Moses and spoke to him face to face.
He walked with the three Hebrew children in the
fiery furnace. He appeared in Daniel's visions.

To Isaiah he is referred to as the ARM of the Lord.

Jesus rebuked those who couldn't see Him in Scripture:

JOHN 5
36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.

37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.


He created eveything that IS, He told Moses His name,
I AM.
I AM is His name.
He came to save his creation, and to those who
come to Him, He will grant eternal life.