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So,.. good luck sticking with your the changes discerned by your heart.
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The pagans and idolaters will have to unlearn the hard way. Good luck with that.rant
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What is not pagan in your pagan liberalism?!
You see, you have stopped making contextual sense! So, why is that you resort to the totally ungrounded ad hominem verbal assault?
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Holy Trinity is pagan. Anti-biblical. Simple as that.
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I am not spanish, by the way, i am ukrainian. And you are wrong. Don't embrace islamic and masonic and Egyptian, and Babylonian deceit, for they counterfeit it all.

A question: when you read, do you really have any reading compensation,--- in spirit when reading the Book, and just a common sense when examining human writings?
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Revelation 1:1The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John
Revelation 3:14 To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God,
Revelation 11:15 The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever.Revelation 11:17 We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign.
Rev 12:17 ... keep the commandments of God, AND have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 20:6 they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
Revelation 21:23 The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.
Revelation 1:4 Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spiritsa before his throne, 5and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
Rev 3:12 Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and My new name.
Revelation 14:12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.
Revelation 19:6 For our Lord God Almighty reigns. ... For the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready.
Revelation 1:8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty. …
Rev 1:18I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever!
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Jesus is God's son. He was sent by God.
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The Father gave authority to the Son.
He is God manifested in the flesh. Just as important as the father although two different persons of the trinity.
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Jesus cannot be part of the Trinity for several reasons, but I will mention a few.

1. The Trinity exists in the realm of eternity, it cannot enter the time-space universe directly as it would completely ruin the whole reason for its existence.

2. The Eternal Son is the perfect and final expression of the “first” personal and absolute concept of the Universal Father. Accordingly, whenever and however the Father personally and absolutely expresses himself, he does so through his Eternal Son, who ever has been, now is, and ever will be, the living and divine Word. And this Eternal Son is residential at the center of all things, in association with, and immediately enshrouding the personal presence of, the Eternal and Universal Father. There is no possible way for the Eternal Son to directly inhabit a human body in time. The notion is ludicrous.

3. It is logically impossible for Jesus to be God if he is considered to be a Son of God as well. The Trinity consists of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit; the word "God" should imply God in its entirety. God the Son is part of the totality of Deity. More specifically, the Eternal Son cannot be both a Son of God and God the Son; the Eternal Son is the spiritual personalization of the Paradise Father’s universal and infinite concept of divine reality, unqualified spirit, and absolute personality. And thereby does the Son constitute the divine revelation of the creator identity of the Universal Father. The perfect personality of the Son discloses that the Father is actually the eternal and universal source of all the meanings and values of the spiritual, the volitional, the purposeful, and the personal. A real "Son of God" would be a Son of the Trinity, or any of the 7 combinations therein; it would not be the Eternal Son specifically. As long as a Son of God is unique in nature as well as in personality, each can be considered an “only-begotten Son” of the perfect deity ideal of its origin. Jesus embodies the characteristics of God the Father and God the Son, his divine self was the creation of two members of the Trinity.
 Quoting: overmind


Abandon your logic, pseudo-wise-man. you fail.
Humble yourself unto dust, which you surely are, or eht shut up for eternity. There is a mercy out there, NOT INSIDE OF YOU (!) YET, which is gifted to you for free. Take it or leave it!
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This is true OP, but it boggles my mind
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Revelation 1:1The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John
Revelation 3:14 To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God,
Revelation 11:15 The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever.Revelation 11:17 We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign.
Rev 12:17 ... keep the commandments of God, AND have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 20:6 they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
Revelation 21:23 The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.
Revelation 1:4 Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spiritsa before his throne, 5and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
Rev 3:12 Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and My new name.
Revelation 14:12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.
Revelation 19:6 For our Lord God Almighty reigns. ... For the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready.
Revelation 1:8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty. …
Rev 1:18I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever!
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I see, that in your mind you deny Godhood to the Son of Man, but place it outside the supernatural gospel of salvation.
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JOHN 14
1 Let not your heart be troubled:
ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions:
if it were not so, I would have told you.
I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you,
I will come again, and receive you unto myself;
that where I am, there ye may be also.


4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord,
we know not whither thou goest;
and how can we know the way?

6 Jesus saith unto him,
I am the way, the truth, and the life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


7 If ye had known me, ye should have known
my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him,
and have seen him.

8 Philip saith unto him,
Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Jesus saith unto him,
Have I been so long time with you,
and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?
HE THAT HATH SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER;
and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me?
the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself:
but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

11 Believe me that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me
:
or else believe me for the very works' sake.

12 Verily, verily, I say unto you,
He that believeth on me, the works that I do
shall he do also; and greater works than these
shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do,
that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
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Revelation 1:1The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John
Revelation 3:14 To the angel of the church in Laodicea write: The Amen, the faithful and true Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God,
Revelation 11:15 The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever.Revelation 11:17 We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign.
Rev 12:17 ... keep the commandments of God, AND have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 20:6 they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years.
Revelation 21:23 The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.
Revelation 1:4 Grace and peace to you from him who is, and who was, and who is to come, and from the seven spiritsa before his throne, 5and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
Rev 3:12 Him who overcomes I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will he leave it. I will write on him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and My new name.
Revelation 14:12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.
Revelation 19:6 For our Lord God Almighty reigns. ... For the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready.
Revelation 1:8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty. …
Rev 1:18I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I see, that in your mind you deny Godhood to the Son of Man, but place it outside the supernatural gospel of salvation.
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NUM 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good
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Would any father send his son to die for his own mistakes?? No earthly father would do it(unless evil),so why would we think it of our heavenly father? Im sure that jesus is god,the image of the invisable god.one god,three attributes kinda like how water is water,water is ice,water is steam but yet its still only water.
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Hebrews 1

1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. 3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. 4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.

5 For to which of the angels did God ever say,

“You are my Son;
today I have become your Father”?
Or again,

“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son”?
6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,

“Let all God’s angels worship him.”
7 In speaking of the angels he says,

“He makes his angels winds,
his servants flames of fire.”
8 But about the Son he says,

“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9 You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.”

10 He also says,

“In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11 They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
12 You will roll them up like a robe;
like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same,
and your years will never end.”
13 To which of the angels did God ever say,

“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet”?
14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
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“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet”?
14 Are not all angels ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation?
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1Cor15:20 when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.
1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he[CHRIST] must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son[CHRIST] also himself **be subject** unto him[THE FATHER] that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
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There is one God(Deut. 6:4) in three persons(Matt. 28:19).
Jesus is God(John 1:1,14; 1Timothy 3:16). Jesus thought it NOT ROBBERY to be equal with God(Philippians 2:6) but being in the flesh humbled Himself to His Father to give to us an example to follow.
Another name for God is...I AM(Exodus 3:14). Jesus said, before Abraham was...I AM(John 8:58).[youtube][googlevid][liveleak]
 Quoting: edwinrad


You are talking about jewish jesus who is in hell. The Lord that is the burning bush who is satan is deceiving you into thinking that who ever comes in this burning bush is God but it's not. Jewish Jesus who the Jews and Protestants want to come back and rule for 1000 years is a god in hell. The real God is Jesum Christmas is the son of Our Lady and the Holy Ghost. He came with Our Lady and was killed and eaten by jewish leaders and high priests worshipping lucifer in Rome. But low and behold after defacating God from their digestive system was standing before everyone. He then gave the Romans the mass and the sacraments. Then God and his mother ascended to heaven where they are right now. God Jesum Christum does not come back but Our Lady does. For example She did in 2010 to the people in the Ivory Coast in plain sight in front of everyone. Now the romans who were pissed that the god that they were made by their families and gov't to worship wasn't God at all but lucifer the devil they took it out on lucifer the devil's people the Jews and with the help of Our Lady took out the 2nd temple which was the largest gathering of lucifer worship and then the world returned to being a happy place. But some Jews retaliated.
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JOHN 14
1 Let not your heart be troubled:
ye believe in God, believe also in me.

2 In my Father's house are many mansions:
if it were not so, I would have told you.
I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you,
I will come again, and receive you unto myself;
that where I am, there ye may be also.


4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord,
we know not whither thou goest;
and how can we know the way?

6 Jesus saith unto him,
I am the way, the truth, and the life:
no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


7 If ye had known me, ye should have known
my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him,
and have seen him.

8 Philip saith unto him,
Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Jesus saith unto him,
Have I been so long time with you,
and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?
HE THAT HATH SEEN ME HATH SEEN THE FATHER;
and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me?
the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself:
but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

11 Believe me that I am in the Father,
and the Father in me
:
or else believe me for the very works' sake.

12 Verily, verily, I say unto you,
He that believeth on me, the works that I do
shall he do also; and greater works than these
shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do,
that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

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This is bumped for the muslim serbian!

Get lost!
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Would any father send his son to die for his own mistakes?? No earthly father would do it(unless evil),so why would we think it of our heavenly father? Im sure that jesus is god,the image of the invisable god.one god,three attributes kinda like how water is water,water is ice,water is steam but yet its still only water.
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done deal here!
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ROMANS
5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
5:9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son

MATTHEW
28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
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There is one God(Deut. 6:4) in three persons(Matt. 28:19).
Jesus is God(John 1:1,14; 1Timothy 3:16). Jesus thought it NOT ROBBERY to be equal with God(Philippians 2:6) but being in the flesh humbled Himself to His Father to give to us an example to follow.
Another name for God is...I AM(Exodus 3:14). Jesus said, before Abraham was...I AM(John 8:58).[youtube][googlevid][liveleak]
 Quoting: edwinrad


You are talking about jewish jesus who is in hell. The Lord that is the burning bush who is satan is deceiving you into thinking that who ever comes in this burning bush is God but it's not. Jewish Jesus who the Jews and Protestants want to come back and rule for 1000 years is a god in hell. The real God is Jesum Christmas is the son of Our Lady and the Holy Ghost. He came with Our Lady and was killed and eaten by jewish leaders and high priests worshipping lucifer in Rome. But low and behold after defacating God from their digestive system was standing before everyone. He then gave the Romans the mass and the sacraments. Then God and his mother ascended to heaven where they are right now. God Jesum Christum does not come back but Our Lady does. For example She did in 2010 to the people in the Ivory Coast in plain sight in front of everyone. Now the romans who were pissed that the god that they were made by their families and gov't to worship wasn't God at all but lucifer the devil they took it out on lucifer the devil's people the Jews and with the help of Our Lady took out the 2nd temple which was the largest gathering of lucifer worship and then the world returned to being a happy place. But some Jews retaliated.
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uh-oh!..
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To the one who quoted Luke 1:35, if the Holy Spirit is a "third person" then why didn't Jesus call him (Father). When one really reads and discerns that scripture it is plain to see Gabriel told Mary God's force or power would come upon her and not a third or other "person". The Holy Spirit is God's force or power, read John 1 and it will be very evident.
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Trinity = all three are co-equal

Jesus was ALWAYS in subjection to the Father. So that makes the trinity a failure.


Trinity = pagan
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Jesus is God's son. He was sent by God.
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The Father gave authority to the Son.
He is God manifested in the flesh. Just as important as the father although two different persons of the trinity.
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Jesus cannot be part of the Trinity for several reasons, but I will mention a few.

1. The Trinity exists in the realm of eternity, it cannot enter the time-space universe directly as it would completely ruin the whole reason for its existence.

2. The Eternal Son is the perfect and final expression of the “first” personal and absolute concept of the Universal Father. Accordingly, whenever and however the Father personally and absolutely expresses himself, he does so through his Eternal Son, who ever has been, now is, and ever will be, the living and divine Word. And this Eternal Son is residential at the center of all things, in association with, and immediately enshrouding the personal presence of, the Eternal and Universal Father. There is no possible way for the Eternal Son to directly inhabit a human body in time. The notion is ludicrous.

3. It is logically impossible for Jesus to be God if he is considered to be a Son of God as well. The Trinity consists of God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit; the word "God" should imply God in its entirety. God the Son is part of the totality of Deity. More specifically, the Eternal Son cannot be both a Son of God and God the Son; the Eternal Son is the spiritual personalization of the Paradise Father’s universal and infinite concept of divine reality, unqualified spirit, and absolute personality. And thereby does the Son constitute the divine revelation of the creator identity of the Universal Father. The perfect personality of the Son discloses that the Father is actually the eternal and universal source of all the meanings and values of the spiritual, the volitional, the purposeful, and the personal. A real "Son of God" would be a Son of the Trinity, or any of the 7 combinations therein; it would not be the Eternal Son specifically. As long as a Son of God is unique in nature as well as in personality, each can be considered an “only-begotten Son” of the perfect deity ideal of its origin. Jesus embodies the characteristics of God the Father and God the Son, his divine self was the creation of two members of the Trinity.
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Abandon your logic, pseudo-wise-man. you fail.
Humble yourself unto dust, which you surely are, or eht shut up for eternity. There is a mercy out there, NOT INSIDE OF YOU (!) YET, which is gifted to you for free. Take it or leave it!
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Spirit does not act illogically and neither should I. Abandoning progress in philosophy will not help the human race. Letting old truths stagnate into religious dogma entrenches man in the mire of ritualism. You can both accept the infinite love of the Creator and use critical thinking, they aren't mutually exclusive. True spirituality does not involve ignoring your own intellect, if anything it expands your thinking. But if you are adding large limitations to what you can believe and refuse to question things, then progress can only meet a dead end. My personal quest for greater knowledge has only improved my level of faith, I don't see a problem in that.
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Jesus Christ, He is one with The Father, God gave Him majesty.
He does His Fathers will. He kneeled down in getsemane, proclaiming and giving praise To The One True God, His Father.

He IS Gods son, He IS the righteous one, He IS the wonder.
No wonder, man wonders about Him.. :)

He is equal to God, but Hes not the Father. Jesus Christ is the key, to enter into His Father. He is the door, The only way to access God. He was just, awesome, and still is !
You can only imagine, but experiencing him, is like nothing else.

King of Kings, Lord of Lords. A just one, a righteous one, a loving one, not a false one, but one that actually has the heart to do such an act, like Christ did, that is MY King!
And that is one, that will have my ever thanks and praise!

ive felt This Love, and it really DEEPLY touched me, to weep the most beautyful tears. I shed, with passion.. Over such an incredible beeing. It changes you.

He is worthy. Amen
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Sounds like God in ONE person to me!. Jews will NEVER accept the trinity doctrine.



There is one God(Deut. 6:4) in three persons(Matt. 28:19).
Jesus is God(John 1:1,14; 1Timothy 3:16). Jesus thought it NOT ROBBERY to be equal with God(Philippians 2:6) but being in the flesh humbled Himself to His Father to give to us an example to follow.
Another name for God is...I AM(Exodus 3:14). Jesus said, before Abraham was...I AM(John 8:58).[youtube][googlevid][liveleak]
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ROM74
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Jesus Christ, He is one with The Father, God gave Him majesty.
He does His Fathers will. He kneeled down in getsemane, proclaiming and giving praise To The One True God, His Father.

He IS Gods son, He IS the righteous one, He IS the wonder.
No wonder, man wonders about Him.. :)

He is equal to God, but Hes not the Father. Jesus Christ is the key, to enter into His Father. He is the door, The only way to access God. He was just, awesome, and still is !
You can only imagine, but experiencing him, is like nothing else.

King of Kings, Lord of Lords. A just one, a righteous one, a loving one, not a false one, but one that actually has the heart to do such an act, like Christ did, that is MY King!
And that is one, that will have my ever thanks and praise!

ive felt This Love, and it really DEEPLY touched me, to weep the most beautyful tears. I shed, with passion.. Over such an incredible beeing. It changes you.

He is worthy. Amen
 Quoting: alan 28142128


Joshua ben Joseph (Jesus) was the greatest role model for humanity and his divine self is indeed the way to the Father (both metaphorically and literally). But as marvelous as Jesus is, he could never be equal to God and he certainly never mentioned such a thing. God has trillions of Sons that do His divine work in the evolutionary worlds of time and space. They do the work of the Trinity in time while the Trinity forever remains within the realm of eternity. On the levels of the infinite and the absolute, the moment of the present contains all of the past as well as all of the future. The Trinity is composed of the three distinct sources of creation, but all remain as the Center. No member of the Trinity could go from being in the eternal to entering the finite realms directly. These three personalities of God could not change in such a way in their totality, but the operation of time-space would. If eternal and absolute Deity enters the finite, then the finite would theoretically become absolute itself, such as where the Trinity resides now. Time as we know it would cease to exist, which would undermine the reason for it in the first place. It exists for the evolution of Deity perfection, the end result of the eternal future already made known in the Trinity. Put differently, it is the bridge between limited consciousness and infinite consciousness on a cosmic scale, the evolution of God the Supreme and God the Ultimate.

The Trinity of eternal Deities facilitates the Father’s escape from personality absolutism. The Trinity perfectly associates the limitless expression of God’s infinite personal will with the absoluteness of Deity. The Eternal Son and the various Sons of divine origin, together with the Infinite Spirit and his universe children, effectively provide for the Father’s liberation from the limitations otherwise inherent in primacy, perfection, changelessness, eternity, universality, absoluteness, and infinity. The Trinity effectively provides for the full expression and perfect revelation of the eternal nature of Deity. The Trinity is Deity unity, and this unity rests eternally upon the absolute foundations of the divine oneness of the three original and co-ordinate and coexistent personalities, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit.

Last Edited by overmind on 01/13/2013 11:58 PM