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Raw Helicopter Footage At Sandy Hook

 
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The video was from a fire drill in July by the way. There are obviously a couple shilling idiots spreading dis info in this thread. How much do you liberal agenda agents make to divide people? People please ignore this thread. This is a pure bs post. The op has a langley, va address!
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and another shill

they are getting desperate
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Does anyone notice the first two rows of cars, and a few in the back, Whats weird about them?
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In the one row every car except one is backed in to its spot, in the row behind it every car is just pulled in normal, so just about every car is facing the school.
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omg you're right. They are all facing the wrong way.
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Not one going the other way? Fuckin' a, so when everybody shows up to work they have an unwritten rule that you pull to those spots first like that?

So we are to believe there were 26 people executed, some in piles and they determined everyone was dead with no one else possibly injured in the building, and told the ambulances to not get near the building?
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I worked for an oil exploration company and being a high risk industry and the fact that a lot of oil is in, shall we say, less than savoury areas of the world, we were all given training for risk, and one of them was you never parked in front ways to a space, always rear so it was only 1 movement out, this is the same training given to diplomats, alphabet agencies etc, so looks like spooks cars.

the more i see and read about Sandy Hook the more alarm bells ar ringing
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The video was from a fire drill in July by the way. There are obviously a couple shilling idiots spreading dis info in this thread. How much do you liberal agenda agents make to divide people? People please ignore this thread. This is a pure bs post. The op has a langley, va address!
 Quoting: fact master 1071865


and another shill

they are getting desperate
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he earned $4 though!

5a
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Well, is it normal for the grass to be green and the trees to still have their fall foliage in mid-December in Connecticut?

I think this is from a police helicopter.

I remember an interview with a local Fireman.
In his weird discussion with Brooke Baldwin of CNN he says he feels guilty. He also said the first thing he heard
and saw was the helicopters overhead.
He didn't get a call. They weren't CALLING the local first responders.

He also stated that he was surprised it was worse than
he was thinking it was going to be.

His words and actions and Brooke Baldwin's strange behavior.
(She doesn't know what to ask, so there is dead air for a few seconds before she stiltingly asks him what was being said to her in her earphones).

I tried to find this video again yesterday and can't find it.
If anybody saved it it would be nice to see posted.
The Fireman is pretending they have just received 26 wreaths from Oregon. It was a staged interview and extremely awkward.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


I think this is the vid you're talking about:


 Quoting: blind squirrel

WOW, I have never seen that interview before. That is the most awkward video I have seen to date!! That guy seems to really stumble with a lot of answers. He does give his name in the video, hesitantly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30134987


I also am confused by this. If he was working across town when he heard, and already saw the helicopters, that means the first responders got there way late..Doesnt make sense to me at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9142675


Hooray Blind Squirrel, thanks for finding it!
I was worried it was gone.

What it shows poster above is that he was assigned to this fire department, yet he was not invited to attend.
Locals were not part of the exercise.
Other poster: This was not on Friday so the Wreaths were
not early.
I just thought it was a blatant tie-in for the viewer to
remember the shooting 3 days prior at Clackamas.

What also strikes me is that he doesn't listen to this on a scanner, but on a radio, where he thinks it has only 3 victims. Even then, why does he go to the Fire Department and when? After his regular job?
And of course, she spins why he feels guilty as to "what could he have done"? When I feel like the source of his "guilt" is regarding the crap being passed off as real
and his role in it.
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Does that school have valet parking?

Every single car in the first row backed in. Every single car in the second row pulled front first?

Look at ANY parking lot you will never see that. Simply because people don't know how to park.

It's just like a movie set where they didnt think anyone would notice... They just pulled each car in as fast as they could to get the job done..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31952968


That's how it looks to me too. Yet notice the two prime locations, front and center are empty as if two cars are moved. Which cars were moved?
In an alleged crime scene you couldn't.

I think somebody actually pulled the Lanza car in there and had to repark it in the 'zone'. That's just a wild guess.
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Can anyone zoom into the fire truck from Detroit?

Great find o.p. thxs
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I think this is the vid you're talking about:


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interesting the wreaths come from Portland apparently. No body told us we were sending wreaths fedex to sandy hook as far as I know. This was one of the wierdest, along with carver and the actor dad.
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Not fedex, UPS and they would have had to ship them NXDA Saturday to make it there by Monday. Or, if they placed the order before the Friday UPS deadline for regular NXDA.

Doable but odd they would need them all the way from the West Coast.
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please I keep posting this article in a lot of these threads but everyone needs to read this stuff and scratch their head

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Ty for posting this. First time I've seen it. Just got up and on my first cup of coffee and I'm not even halfway thru the article and it already stinks.
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we need time stamps on this stuff otherwise it's meaningless.
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The video was from a fire drill in July by the way. There are obviously a couple shilling idiots spreading dis info in this thread. How much do you liberal agenda agents make to divide people? People please ignore this thread. This is a pure bs post. The op has a langley, va address!
 Quoting: fact master 1071865


Fire drill from July????????? Seriously LOL. I dont know what part of the country you live in but Conneticut in July has green grass, leaves ont he trees and people dont wear jackets in July.
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we need time stamps on this stuff otherwise it's meaningless.
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read the chyron(s) [tv grahpics] and search for related items to place the time.

eta : also the 26 wreaths from Oregon - how sure was everyone even by the following Saturday of the death count?
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WREATHS SENT FROM OREGON BY UPS AND ARRIVES BEFORE 2PM?

WTF?wtf
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....and there's "26 of them" .......from all over the country......

This guy is too stupid to be a "real" firefighter, first of all! He couldn't even figure out that she was asking him HOW LONG he had worked as a firefighter?!?!?!?

What a dumb ass.....and THEN she asks how "he's doing...." (meaning emotionally), from seeing all this.....carnage.

Listen, MY HUSBAND WAS A FIREFIGHTER before he retired, and after listening to him tell me about cases he worked where little kids drowned, or whatever, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO TALK...........not just - trying hard to choke up while he talked.
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The video was from a fire drill in July by the way. There are obviously a couple shilling idiots spreading dis info in this thread. How much do you liberal agenda agents make to divide people? People please ignore this thread. This is a pure bs post. The op has a langley, va address!
 Quoting: fact master 1071865


and another shill

they are getting desperate
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31954514


he earned $4 though!

5a
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So at least he's one of the gov't trolls working, right?
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Well, is it normal for the grass to be green and the trees to still have their fall foliage in mid-December in Connecticut?

I think this is from a police helicopter.

I remember an interview with a local Fireman.
In his weird discussion with Brooke Baldwin of CNN he says he feels guilty. He also said the first thing he heard
and saw was the helicopters overhead.
He didn't get a call. They weren't CALLING the local first responders.

He also stated that he was surprised it was worse than
he was thinking it was going to be.

His words and actions and Brooke Baldwin's strange behavior.
(She doesn't know what to ask, so there is dead air for a few seconds before she stiltingly asks him what was being said to her in her earphones).

I tried to find this video again yesterday and can't find it.
If anybody saved it it would be nice to see posted.
The Fireman is pretending they have just received 26 wreaths from Oregon. It was a staged interview and extremely awkward.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


I think this is the vid you're talking about:


 Quoting: blind squirrel


So he is a fireman who has been at the sandy hook fire house for 20 odd years, since highschool, but he works on the other side of town... did I get that right?...

He was a first responder, yet he found out about it because of the helicopters flying around.. he wasnt called in by the firehouse?.. did i get that right?

When he arrived all the cars and trucks were all there ... so parents, police, swat, state troopers, 3 letter agencies, media and god knows who else were all there before him, but he was a first responder... did i get that right?...
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And btw.. not sure if it matters at this point, but there were 45 - 50 employees at Sandy Hook Elementary.. (numbers vary depending on the site you find)... yet in the carpark, only counting the cars that are parked straight and not police cars, the ones that obviously are not law enforcement or parked haphazardly, there were 70 cars in the car park... 45 - 50 employees.. 70 cars... who were the other 20 people at the school that morning??..

is it normal in the usa for there to be 20 odd parents at school on any given morning?..
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Well, is it normal for the grass to be green and the trees to still have their fall foliage in mid-December in Connecticut?

I think this is from a police helicopter.

I remember an interview with a local Fireman.
In his weird discussion with Brooke Baldwin of CNN he says he feels guilty. He also said the first thing he heard
and saw was the helicopters overhead.
He didn't get a call. They weren't CALLING the local first responders.

He also stated that he was surprised it was worse than
he was thinking it was going to be.

His words and actions and Brooke Baldwin's strange behavior.
(She doesn't know what to ask, so there is dead air for a few seconds before she stiltingly asks him what was being said to her in her earphones).

I tried to find this video again yesterday and can't find it.
If anybody saved it it would be nice to see posted.
The Fireman is pretending they have just received 26 wreaths from Oregon. It was a staged interview and extremely awkward.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


I think this is the vid you're talking about:


 Quoting: blind squirrel


So he is a fireman who has been at the sandy hook fire house for 20 odd years, since highschool, but he works on the other side of town... did I get that right?...

He was a first responder, yet he found out about it because of the helicopters flying around.. he wasnt called in by the firehouse?.. did i get that right?

When he arrived all the cars and trucks were all there ... so parents, police, swat, state troopers, 3 letter agencies, media and god knows who else were all there before him, but he was a first responder... did i get that right?...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31881031


Yea kinda changes the definition of first responder. This is such a mess. And thanks for the video too to whoever posted it. I had not seen it before either.
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please I keep posting this article in a lot of these threads but everyone needs to read this stuff and scratch their head

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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Bizarre! The talk from the firefighter is that all these emergency vehicles passed the station, ambulances, and that the firefighter were the last on the scene...yet, in the video from the helicopter there wasn't ONE ambulance there!!

They are just thumbing their noses at the American people, and totally getting away with it! I think it was a test, just to see if the American people are dumbed down enough yet to stage this kind of crap for their own agenda.
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Just found this

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Do you notice that the helicopter camera stays away from viewing the firehouse? What's up with that?! If the evacuation had already taken place.....that's where the action is, right?
 Quoting: blind squirrel


Yeah, that's where all the fire trucks were blocked in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31924051


Go to 3.11 in the Vid, Sign beside car says "Place suspects car here"
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no it doesnt!

it says "all cars" its for the car lane and school bus lane.

putin
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please I keep posting this article in a lot of these threads but everyone needs to read this stuff and scratch their head

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30755360


Bizarre! The talk from the firefighter is that all these emergency vehicles passed the station, ambulances, and that the firefighter were the last on the scene...yet, in the video from the helicopter there wasn't ONE ambulance there!!

They are just thumbing their noses at the American people, and totally getting away with it! I think it was a test, just to see if the American people are dumbed down enough yet to stage this kind of crap for their own agenda.
 Quoting: katballoo


Hmm...not a shill here but im afraid you guys are wrong about this one. Their shadows are pointing in a N by NE direction, indicating, for that latitude, that the sun was setting in the West. Check the length of their shadows as well indicating near end of day. This occurred in the late afternoon, Im afraid.
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Anyone want to name the girl with purple headband, purple pants and apparent afro in this picture?

She is in front of the girl with the black shirt and pink writing.

I thought the only 'black' girl in the school (actually Puerto Rican) was a victim. If so, who this?

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Does anyone else find it strange, that when using the Google Earth timeline feature, the image of the school never changes?

12 Dickenson Drive, Sandy Hook, CT 06482
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Where SWAT teams brought in from Sparta (Greece)?

Look at the photo in the link. 3rd guy from left. Look at his shoulder patch.

Like it? Available on the web for less than $10....

[link to www.troyrecord.com]

[link to redwolfairsoft.com]
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There is just more and more as each thing is examined, that shows up.. i read that article linked above, and this part struck me as strange.. well the whole damn thing is strange but this particularly..

"It’s a 2.3-mile drive from the Newtown station to Sandy Hook Elementary School: A left, a right and another right. The first on the scene were nine Newtown officers, divided into three teams of three, including the police chief. They were the first, after the shooter, to force their way into the school, via the front lobby and the rear door.

Inside: silence. The air smelled like the department’s firing range: spent gunpowder.

By that time, 1,000 feet down the road from the school, William Halstead, the chief of Sandy Hook Volunteer Fire and Rescue, knew something was wrong. From his desk, he had heard the sirens as the first squad cars passed — a typical sound for this stretch of Route 6, which connects Newtown’s Main Street with Interstate 84 — but he thought nothing of it until the noise began to compound."

Ok.. so 1,000 feet... and he didnt hear 100+ rounds of a semi automatic gun going off .. it would of echoed nicely from the top of that rise that the school sits on... the fire house and neighbours would of heard the continuous sound of gunfire for the full 4-6 mins it took ..

Yet no neighbours heard these shots.. no one at the fire house heard the shots and went running up the driveway or called police.. not even the students heard 100+ rounds being fired off...

So is that strange.. or is it just me?
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And btw.. not sure if it matters at this point, but there were 45 - 50 employees at Sandy Hook Elementary.. (numbers vary depending on the site you find)... yet in the carpark, only counting the cars that are parked straight and not police cars, the ones that obviously are not law enforcement or parked haphazardly, there were 70 cars in the car park... 45 - 50 employees.. 70 cars... who were the other 20 people at the school that morning??..

is it normal in the usa for there to be 20 odd parents at school on any given morning?..
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I was looking at the cars too again. All the spaces being taken up by agencies so what did they do? Have all the school employees come out and move their cars in the middle of this crisis? And park someplace else?
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Where SWAT teams brought in from Sparta (Greece)?

Look at the photo in the link. 3rd guy from left. Look at his shoulder patch.

Like it? Available on the web for less than $10....

[link to www.troyrecord.com]

[link to redwolfairsoft.com]
 Quoting: Redcat1


wtf
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Where SWAT teams brought in from Sparta (Greece)?

Look at the photo in the link. 3rd guy from left. Look at his shoulder patch.

Like it? Available on the web for less than $10....

[link to www.troyrecord.com]

[link to redwolfairsoft.com]
 Quoting: Redcat1


wtf
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I don't believe it. I see it but I dont believe it.
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There is just more and more as each thing is examined, that shows up.. i read that article linked above, and this part struck me as strange.. well the whole damn thing is strange but this particularly..

"It’s a 2.3-mile drive from the Newtown station to Sandy Hook Elementary School: A left, a right and another right. The first on the scene were nine Newtown officers, divided into three teams of three, including the police chief. They were the first, after the shooter, to force their way into the school, via the front lobby and the rear door.

Inside: silence. The air smelled like the department’s firing range: spent gunpowder.

By that time, 1,000 feet down the road from the school, William Halstead, the chief of Sandy Hook Volunteer Fire and Rescue, knew something was wrong. From his desk, he had heard the sirens as the first squad cars passed — a typical sound for this stretch of Route 6, which connects Newtown’s Main Street with Interstate 84 — but he thought nothing of it until the noise began to compound."

Ok.. so 1,000 feet... and he didnt hear 100+ rounds of a semi automatic gun going off .. it would of echoed nicely from the top of that rise that the school sits on... the fire house and neighbours would of heard the continuous sound of gunfire for the full 4-6 mins it took ..

Yet no neighbours heard these shots.. no one at the fire house heard the shots and went running up the driveway or called police.. not even the students heard 100+ rounds being fired off...

So is that strange.. or is it just me?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31881031


The chief of the fire and rescue doesn't have a police scanner?
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.
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Where SWAT teams brought in from Sparta (Greece)?

Look at the photo in the link. 3rd guy from left. Look at his shoulder patch.

Like it? Available on the web for less than $10....

[link to www.troyrecord.com]

[link to redwolfairsoft.com]
 Quoting: Redcat1


wtf
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I don't believe it. I see it but I dont believe it.
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Maybe the SWAT teams are allowed to add 'flair' like TGI Fridays wait-tards
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I guess that they don't have any video footage of kids being rushed out of the school.

All they have are those still photographs, which is really odd to me.

Someone was there taking still photo's but no video? These days, just about every phone can take a few minutes of video.
The engravings translate to "This space intentionally left blank."

The prayer is inscribed in an ancient script, rarely used today. It seems to be a philippic against small insects, absent-mindedness, and the picking up and dropping of small objects.

The gate is open; through it you can see a desolation, with a pile of mangled bodies in one corner. Thousands of voices, lamenting some hideous fate, can be heard.
The way through the gate is barred by evil spirits, who jeer at your attempts to pass.

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