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Could this punctual "seasonal" flu be a commercial enterprize? because I fail to understand the scientific reason for its timely appearance.

 
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I've never thought of it like that. Good question.
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^I second that emotion.^

We need a correct answer on this one -- any virologists out there in GLP Land? (shills need not apply)
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All those carrier monkeys that got their shot, that's how.
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The flue is less in Hawaii ya?

And it starts in China and then it travels here and this is about the time it arrives ya?

So the way I see it, every year China tries to kill us.
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The moisture level in the atmosphere has been mentioned as a preventative for the virus to set into our nasal passages.... the dry crusty boogers seem to house the criminal virus!!!! - People in cold climates use heaters, which reduce the air moisture (humidity)....have crusty boogers for virus to hang out on- lol
Many in mild climates use their ac to take moisture out of their indoor air even in the winter when they don't need cooling...
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I've never thought of it like that. Good question.
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^I second that emotion.^

We need a correct answer on this one -- any virologists out there in GLP Land? (shills need not apply)
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would that be a vi-ril-o-tard?

so politically incorrect- LOL- this site has a language all it's own!

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The moisture level in the atmosphere has been mentioned as a preventative for the virus to set into our nasal passages.... the dry crusty boogers seem to house the criminal virus!!!! - People in cold climates use heaters, which reduce the air moisture (humidity)....have crusty boogers for virus to hang out on- lol
Many in mild climates use their ac to take moisture out of their indoor air even in the winter when they don't need cooling...
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FURTHERMORE- We have started to rely on our heating and ac units to also filter our indoor air... WHAT ARE WE FILTERING?
New thread needed for that!
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What scientific basis does a viral..viral..influenza have to do with seasonal change..I say seasonal because its not necessarily climatic as in some regions of the world the weather does not change from hot to cold

So on what scientific basis does this stand?

how can something that is airborn and viral in nature appear punctually when the seasons change?

Could it be a commercial enterprize?
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viruses grow and spread in WARMER weather.

this winter is very warm.

not to mention the chem trails...
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Chemtrails, that was important, no one believes the chemtrails are dropping virus.
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Chemtrails, that was important, no one believes the chemtrails are dropping virus.
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Barium in chemtrails?

you might find this interesting:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
And this simply from wikipedia:

Because of the high reactivity of the metal, toxicological data are available only for compounds.[37] Water-soluble barium compounds are poisonous. At low doses, barium ions act as a muscle stimulant, whereas higher doses affect the nervous system, causing cardiac irregularities, tremors, weakness, anxiety, dyspnea and paralysis. This may be due to the ability of Ba2+ to block potassium ion channels, which are critical to the proper function of the nervous system.[38] Other target organs for water-soluble barium compounds (i.e., barium ions) are eyes, immune system, heart, respiratory system, and skin.[37] They affect the body strongly, causing, for example, blindness and sensitization.[37]
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nervous system..anxiety..nervousness..agitation

immune system..immune depressent
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I thought the hospital keeps the air COLD in there to keep bacteria and virus's from spreading!!???

This is a GREAT discussion thread!!! If not, then what is the hospital doing in keeping it sooo cold in there????

Thanks!

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I am saying that chemtrails started out as protection from bio warfare. As a way to make the population stronger. It still is problematic how people with aids and a low immunity deal with the virus dropped from trails. However supposedly the long term goal was to beef up the population so some might survive potential bio warfare if it comes to that. truth stranger than fiction
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My advice:
Could help..if you already have it..obviously follow doctors orders etc..and if you dont have any other underlying health conditions..my advice is to sweat..and I mean really sweat it off..stay in ..wrap yourself up as much as possible..even the water you drink..heat it up..and sweat..keep hydrated..drink..heat the water though..everything warm..
and sweat..

even when you think its gone..take it easy..give it some more time before you start your normal schedule
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Why not do some research before jumping to the conclusion that it is a conspiracy? This is the kind of shit that gives conspiracy theorists a bad name and makes people thinkk we are crazy or stupid.

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What scientific basis does a viral..viral..influenza have to do with seasonal change..I say seasonal because its not necessarily climatic as in some regions of the world the weather does not change from hot to cold

So on what scientific basis does this stand?

how can something that is airborn and viral in nature appear punctually when the seasons change?

Could it be a commercial enterprize?
 Quoting: wildhoney


I read some place a while back that the flu virus is encapsulated by a shell like substance. In high temps, the shell melts......and it can no longer survive. Cranking up your home to high temps for a few hours is supposed to kill it. However, I did read where the swine flu was able to survive in warmer temps....so, has it mutated?
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Cold air helps the spread....
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
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Humidity the cause? [link to www.sciencedaily.com]
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My advice:Important part of the body feet and chest..all body warm, especially heavy socks..and woolen scarf even indoors..sweat.., layered clothing ..unless other health conditions..always following your doctors advice though..
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Cold air helps the spread....
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
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most viruses are affecting by very low and very hot temperatures..usually limits their multiplication
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Flu vaccines cause the yearly flu epidemic. Those who get the shots spread it to others.
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Every year at this time TPTB (evil corrupt murderous ass wipes) use a different Chemtrail Recipe to make people sick in order to put more money in their pharmaceutical buddies pockets. Have you noticed the extremely heavy spraying and unusually warm weather for this time of year?

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Flu vaccines cause the yearly flu epidemic. Those who get the shots spread it to others.
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Are you sure?
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More advice..not joking..look into wild honey..manuka honey
maybe can be of help to your immune system
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Hello WildHoney. Was talking with my Mother earlier about your question. She was born in 1934, so has a few years experience.

It was probably in the mid-1970s the adverts in "ladies magazines" and on daytime television started for "Cold & Flu Season" touting Tylenol OTC & Triaminic liquid for children, and Robitussin. Benadryl was still by prescription for allergies.

She doesn't remember any of us kidlets coming down with Influenza. Measles, mumps, chicken pox, roseaolla, scarletina, assorted tummy bugs, and sniffles. This was growing up in the late-1950s into the 1960s. Siblings into the late-1970s, early-1980s.

Yes, honey is oh so anti microbial and tamps down the oh so yummy tasting cod liver oil into a bearable sweet sludge ;-) Rose hips add a tart tanginess and satisfying crunch.
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Hello WildHoney. Was talking with my Mother earlier about your question. She was born in 1934, so has a few years experience.

It was probably in the mid-1970s the adverts in "ladies magazines" and on daytime television started for "Cold & Flu Season" touting Tylenol OTC & Triaminic liquid for children, and Robitussin. Benadryl was still by prescription for allergies.

She doesn't remember any of us kidlets coming down with Influenza. Measles, mumps, chicken pox, roseaolla, scarletina, assorted tummy bugs, and sniffles. This was growing up in the late-1950s into the 1960s. Siblings into the late-1970s, early-1980s.

Yes, honey is oh so anti microbial and tamps down the oh so yummy tasting cod liver oil into a bearable sweet sludge ;-) Rose hips add a tart tanginess and satisfying crunch.
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rose hips? whats that:)never tried that :)
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Hello WildHoney. Was talking with my Mother earlier about your question. She was born in 1934, so has a few years experience.

It was probably in the mid-1970s the adverts in "ladies magazines" and on daytime television started for "Cold & Flu Season" touting Tylenol OTC & Triaminic liquid for children, and Robitussin. Benadryl was still by prescription for allergies.

She doesn't remember any of us kidlets coming down with Influenza. Measles, mumps, chicken pox, roseaolla, scarletina, assorted tummy bugs, and sniffles. This was growing up in the late-1950s into the 1960s. Siblings into the late-1970s, early-1980s.

Yes, honey is oh so anti microbial and tamps down the oh so yummy tasting cod liver oil into a bearable sweet sludge ;-) Rose hips add a tart tanginess and satisfying crunch.
 Quoting: sTTsTTT


rose hips? whats that:)never tried that :)
 Quoting: wildhoney


If you let your roses go to seed, they produce rose hips. One of nature's highest sources of Vitamin C, and free, as well.

What sTTsTTT said above is true. We NEVER worried about flu when we grew up. If we got it at all, we called it "one day flu", because that's how long it lasted. Get naseous, throw up a meal, take a dose of pepto bismo, go to bed, next day all better.

We did get chicken pox and measles, and they are miserable when going through it, but it only lasts a few days; you get to stay home, and you get special attention :) But I was never kept home for "flu". None of my relatives or friends got it either. It really is a more recent development. There simply was no "flu and cold season".

The first time I got it was in the 1970's. Actually, that's the only time I got it. I never get the flu shot.

We did get colds once in a while. As infrequently as possible, because when we did, we knew we would get Dr. Somebody's Horrible Tasting Chill Tonic, which cured it by the next day. Usually we didn't even have to stay indoors when we had a cold. If we did have to stay in, then it was a "bad" cold, and we were told we might get "Newmoania". No one knew what that was since no one ever got it, but we likened it to "you'll fall and break your neck" or "you're going to poke your eye out with that thing".

So, yeah, I think it's manufactured. A good point that it became talked about at the very same time as pharmaceuticals came into the market. Just like depression and bipolarism was suddenly a big issue when the anti-depressant drugs were introduced (and coincidentally, tryptophan was removed from the market due to it's "dangers"). I do believe they create the very diseases that the market the products for. Pretty darm common in any advertising/marketing scheme. Create the market.

There's more to it than that, but point is, no, flu was a really minor deal up until the 70's. And most certainly no one ever died from it.
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hi there,did you know that a flu pandemic is 4x more likely to happen during a solar maximum year.the flu of 1918 was during a solar maximum.it would seem that the radiation from the sun causes viruses in the upper atmosphere to mutate into new strains.also we have 2 comet flybys this year,which are linked to new viruses being deposited in our atmosphere from the gasses given off by melting ice inside the comet.id say this is THE YEAR that gods judgement will visit the earth.may god help us all dear sister.
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Comets are not dirty snowballs.


...And now on to the heart of the matter ... the REAL MEASURED surface water content of the comet nucleus measured at comet Tempel 1 by the DEEP IMPACT fly by probe ... published in early 2006 in the journal SCIENCE as already noted ... of the approximately 12 billion square feet of surface area of this comet nucleus ... only 300,000 square feet indicated any presence of water and this was sparse and mixed with dust ... but wait ... they failed to mention that these areas were not emitting any water "to form the tail" and secondly ... even if it were this only amounts to .025 % of the surface area ... not 100% as required by theorists in 1985 ... not 60% as required in 1987 ... not the 40% percent hoped for before the stardust mission to Comet WILD - II where they then down graded the expectation to 4% ... NOPE ... the final REAL MEASURED value was a sparsely doped area of less that 25 one thousands of one percent of the comet nucleus had any water of any kind and this was not making a tail ... there were no fissures spewing like a steam locomotive to make up for the fact that the rest of the nucleus had no water and was visibly making no contribution to the tail at all (some people have even suggested that the rock could turn to water if you can imagine that ???!!!) ... whatever the belief ... NO WATER WAS OBSERVED COMING OFF THE COMET NUCLEI OF ANY OF THESE COMETS TO MAKE A TAIL...

[link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]

From the Author's bio:

His theoretical work additionally stated that comets were not dirty snowballs, but were large electrical “vacuum cleaners” in outer space. The comets were drawing in vast amounts of material by way of powerful electrical forces and there was potential for very large comets capable of disrupting the planetary structure that was already in place. His innovative theories on plasma physics and a new model for fusion in the solar atmosphere provided the basis for the electric fields and plasma discharge phenomena that have become the core elements of his theoretical models of the true nature of the solar system in which we live.

Guess what? We are affected by our environment. Our environment is affected by the electrical nature of our solar system. The electrical nature of our solar system is highly sensitive to the electrical connection between comets and the sun.

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Hello WildHoney. Was talking with my Mother earlier about your question. She was born in 1934, so has a few years experience.

It was probably in the mid-1970s the adverts in "ladies magazines" and on daytime television started for "Cold & Flu Season" touting Tylenol OTC & Triaminic liquid for children, and Robitussin. Benadryl was still by prescription for allergies.

She doesn't remember any of us kidlets coming down with Influenza. Measles, mumps, chicken pox, roseaolla, scarletina, assorted tummy bugs, and sniffles. This was growing up in the late-1950s into the 1960s. Siblings into the late-1970s, early-1980s.

Yes, honey is oh so anti microbial and tamps down the oh so yummy tasting cod liver oil into a bearable sweet sludge ;-) Rose hips add a tart tanginess and satisfying crunch.
 Quoting: sTTsTTT


rose hips? whats that:)never tried that :)
 Quoting: wildhoney


If you let your roses go to seed, they produce rose hips. One of nature's highest sources of Vitamin C, and free, as well.

What sTTsTTT said above is true. We NEVER worried about flu when we grew up. If we got it at all, we called it "one day flu", because that's how long it lasted. Get naseous, throw up a meal, take a dose of pepto bismo, go to bed, next day all better.

We did get chicken pox and measles, and they are miserable when going through it, but it only lasts a few days; you get to stay home, and you get special attention :) But I was never kept home for "flu". None of my relatives or friends got it either. It really is a more recent development. There simply was no "flu and cold season".

The first time I got it was in the 1970's. Actually, that's the only time I got it. I never get the flu shot.

We did get colds once in a while. As infrequently as possible, because when we did, we knew we would get Dr. Somebody's Horrible Tasting Chill Tonic, which cured it by the next day. Usually we didn't even have to stay indoors when we had a cold. If we did have to stay in, then it was a "bad" cold, and we were told we might get "Newmoania". No one knew what that was since no one ever got it, but we likened it to "you'll fall and break your neck" or "you're going to poke your eye out with that thing".

So, yeah, I think it's manufactured. A good point that it became talked about at the very same time as pharmaceuticals came into the market. Just like depression and bipolarism was suddenly a big issue when the anti-depressant drugs were introduced (and coincidentally, tryptophan was removed from the market due to it's "dangers"). I do believe they create the very diseases that the market the products for. Pretty darm common in any advertising/marketing scheme. Create the market.

There's more to it than that, but point is, no, flu was a really minor deal up until the 70's. And most certainly no one ever died from it.
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wow confirms my poll..thank you
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More advice..not joking..look into wild honey..manuka honey
maybe can be of help to your immune system
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I always knew wildhoney was good for mehf


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