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HIGH ALERT: New York Legislators Debate Details of Gun Law. 95% AGREE!! Bans 10 round mags!!! :UPDATE: NY Pols Taking Lead in Renewed debate!!!

 
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HIGH ALERT: New York Legislators Debate Details of Gun Law. 95% AGREE!! Bans 10 round mags!!! :UPDATE: NY Pols Taking Lead in Renewed debate!!!
ALBANY — Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and lawmakers have agreed they want to ban military-style weapons and high-capacity magazines, but continue to negotiate over the fine print of a broad gun-control package that would include such a ban, state officials said Thursday.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Looks like its gonna happen sometime next week. NY isn't getting enough backlash. Coumo, you will NOT run for president if you do this. Every New Yorker needs to stand up now!!!They are gonna do it because NY is the model.

So looks like they agree to passing it, just working out the kinks.

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Banning 10 rounds to 7 is crazy!!!

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9:35a.m.

Cuomo could introduce gun control legislation next week

[link to www.watertowndailytimes.com]

NY Pols Taking Lead in Renewed Gun Control Debate

[link to www.longislandpress.com]

NY NEEDS EVERYONE'S HELP TO FIGHT THIS!!!

Gun Rally on Albany January 19th!! HELP NY!!
Thread: ATTENTION: Gun Rally in Albany, NY January 19th, 2012....Be heard!!

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Excellent! After that is passed, watch what happens. The crime rate with assault weapons will SOAR and people will scream "WE HAVE TO BAN THESE DANGEROUS WEAPONS!!!" But, they're already banned.

The people that push this stuff may look really stupid, but, they're not. They look stupid because we listen to what they say. They say its for our safety and security. What you don't realize is that the "our" is them, as in GOVERNMENT. No, there will be MORE assault weapons going to government. Less to the people.

Right before you loot the bank you have to disarm the guards. Who knew Hollywood movies would tell us how government works.

They want you disarmed right before they kick you off your property, steal your retirement and send you on a "for the rest of your life" FEMA camping trip.
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Ban away, gun rights deniers, but until you can figure out a way to remove the second amendment, you're shit out of luck. We will not comply.
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Ban away, gun rights deniers, but until you can figure out a way to remove the second amendment, you're shit out of luck. We will not comply.
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UnfortunaIy I think if they do this, it is going to be state by state and people will comply. People with families won't risk being shot by DHS.
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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Excellent! After that is passed, watch what happens. The crime rate with assault weapons will SOAR and people will scream "WE HAVE TO BAN THESE DANGEROUS WEAPONS!!!" But, they're already banned.

The people that push this stuff may look really stupid, but, they're not. They look stupid because we listen to what they say. They say its for our safety and security. What you don't realize is that the "our" is them, as in GOVERNMENT. No, there will be MORE assault weapons going to government. Less to the people.

Right before you loot the bank you have to disarm the guards. Who knew Hollywood movies would tell us how government works.

They want you disarmed right before they kick you off your property, steal your retirement and send you on a "for the rest of your life" FEMA camping trip.
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Even if it passes, which it will, coumo will never be elected president. We the people needs to storm Albany now!!
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

"Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society."

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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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Government gonna government.
I don't think so,
he's up there with the others laying low,
vying with those who you've traded your life to to bless your soul,
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Government gonna government.
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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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Here is a first draft of what I will be sending:

Dear Cuomo, -The faithful follower to the “dear leader” communist ruler of our once great but currently beleaguered and failing nation drowning in debt,

Apparently you and your merry band of progressive “lawmakers” are hell bent upon enacting draconian gun control laws leaving honest citizens helpless while still doing nothing to curb all the violent gangs.

Please consider grandfathering or at the very least give us honest taxpaying citizens a fair amount of time to vacate the welfare state of New York to places that still honor and uphold the Constitution of the United States.

We do not wish to infringe upon your giant leaps and creating a government dependent population and believe you could successfully plead to “dear leader” for federal funding to keep the welfare state solvent.

Perhaps you should focus on far more important issues instead of clinging to the communist ideology of “dear leader” and gunrunner Eric Holder.

Since your laws will adversely impinge on the rights of law abiding taxpayers expect another exodus out of the welfare state of New York.
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New yorkers only attack each other with planes, no need for guns! cruise
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Here is a first draft of what I will be sending:

Dear Cuomo, -The faithful follower to the “dear leader” communist ruler of our once great but currently beleaguered and failing nation drowning in debt,

Apparently you and your merry band of progressive “lawmakers” are hell bent upon enacting draconian gun control laws leaving honest citizens helpless while still doing nothing to curb all the violent gangs.

Please consider grandfathering or at the very least give us honest taxpaying citizens a fair amount of time to vacate the welfare state of New York to places that still honor and uphold the Constitution of the United States.

We do not wish to infringe upon your giant leaps and creating a government dependent population and believe you could successfully plead to “dear leader” for federal funding to keep the welfare state solvent.

Perhaps you should focus on far more important issues instead of clinging to the communist ideology of “dear leader” and gunrunner Eric Holder.

Since your laws will adversely impinge on the rights of law abiding taxpayers expect another exodus out of the welfare state of New York.
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clappa
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

"Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society."

-George Washington, Father of our country & 1st President
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Here is a first draft of what I will be sending:

Dear Cuomo, -The faithful follower to the “dear leader” communist ruler of our once great but currently beleaguered and failing nation drowning in debt,

Apparently you and your merry band of progressive “lawmakers” are hell bent upon enacting draconian gun control laws leaving honest citizens helpless while still doing nothing to curb all the violent gangs.

Please consider grandfathering or at the very least give us honest taxpaying citizens a fair amount of time to vacate the welfare state of New York to places that still honor and uphold the Constitution of the United States.

We do not wish to infringe upon your giant leaps and creating a government dependent population and believe you could successfully plead to “dear leader” for federal funding to keep the welfare state solvent.

Perhaps you should focus on far more important issues instead of clinging to the communist ideology of “dear leader” and gunrunner Eric Holder.

Since your laws will adversely impinge on the rights of law abiding taxpayers expect another exodus out of the welfare state of New York.
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clappa clappa clappa
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Ban away, gun rights deniers, but until you can figure out a way to remove the second amendment, you're shit out of luck. We will not comply.
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UnfortunaIy I think if they do this, it is going to be state by state and people will comply. People with families won't risk being shot by DHS.
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I think you may be wrong as far as compliance. I've been reading the comments made by the gun folks on alot of sites and even though some will comply it looks like alot of those fellows are ready to go all the way families or not. They genuinely seem to be drawing a line in the sand with regards to any gun bans. Even on Huffpo gun owners are saying that this will be a breaking point. That really surprises me that some who are politically left otherwise will not give up their weapons.
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good, fuck new york!
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How many of these lawmakers are there Vs the amount of people living in NY,what gives them the right to dictate over the majority.
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No offense to those that live in NY but they have a ownership rate of 18%, while there may be 2nd amendment supporter who don't own one, this doesn't shock the rest of the nation.

If the country isn't outraged for your sake, NY it's just that it's expected out of NY and also (less so but still expected) out of the other New England states.

I'm sincerely thinking that this country will be split up by sections, looks like the NE will be merging with England soon. Mindset seems so very different for the majority there.
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good, fuck new york!
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and your part of the problem

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Lets see them enforce this.

>>>THEY CANT<<<

At least we have a new list of retards and traitors.
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No offense to those that live in NY but they have a ownership rate of 18%, while there may be 2nd amendment supporter who don't own one, this doesn't shock the rest of the nation.

If the country isn't outraged for your sake, NY it's just that it's expected out of NY and also (less so but still expected) out of the other New England states.

I'm sincerely thinking that this country will be split up by sections, looks like the NE will be merging with England soon. Mindset seems so very different for the majority there.
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just because its "expected" in NY isnt a entitlement excuse to not fight for our 2nd amendment rights. the 18% has the same amount of rights the rest do.

I do agree with states splitting, that will be the start of the next civil war. Like the north vs south, except it will be a cluster f*ck
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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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-George Washington, Father of our country & 1st President
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How many of these lawmakers are there Vs the amount of people living in NY,what gives them the right to dictate over the majority.
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thats why we need to be hear. if they get enough opposition then they will back off, but they are going in hard with this one. banning 10 round mags!?!?! thats insane!
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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they will pass this early next week, before the public even knows whats happening!



also, why do you need 7 bullets to shoot a deer??!! lol fucking traitorous retards!

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I'll never spend another dime in that state. And I've been there several times, skiing.....
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No offense to those that live in NY but they have a ownership rate of 18%, while there may be 2nd amendment supporter who don't own one, this doesn't shock the rest of the nation.

If the country isn't outraged for your sake, NY it's just that it's expected out of NY and also (less so but still expected) out of the other New England states.

I'm sincerely thinking that this country will be split up by sections, looks like the NE will be merging with England soon. Mindset seems so very different for the majority there.
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just because its "expected" in NY isnt a entitlement excuse to not fight for our 2nd amendment rights. the 18% has the same amount of rights the rest do.

I do agree with states splitting, that will be the start of the next civil war. Like the north vs south, except it will be a cluster f*ck
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No, I realize that. It doesn't matter what the majority think, or even the law for that matter in this instance because your rights are inalienable. But, if you get caught up in something else that you are innocent of and they find a weapon then you'll pay the consequences. It's wrong but we know how these things tend to work. If it passes, you all need to get out of there and join a state who will stand up against this type of thing. Leaders can be changed, you need a state where the populous believes as you do and their leaders listen.

If you stay, my prayers WILL be with you. Peace.
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No offense to those that live in NY but they have a ownership rate of 18%, while there may be 2nd amendment supporter who don't own one, this doesn't shock the rest of the nation.

If the country isn't outraged for your sake, NY it's just that it's expected out of NY and also (less so but still expected) out of the other New England states.

I'm sincerely thinking that this country will be split up by sections, looks like the NE will be merging with England soon. Mindset seems so very different for the majority there.
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just because its "expected" in NY isnt a entitlement excuse to not fight for our 2nd amendment rights. the 18% has the same amount of rights the rest do.

I do agree with states splitting, that will be the start of the next civil war. Like the north vs south, except it will be a cluster f*ck
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No, I realize that. It doesn't matter what the majority think, or even the law for that matter in this instance because your rights are inalienable. But, if you get caught up in something else that you are innocent of and they find a weapon then you'll pay the consequences. It's wrong but we know how these things tend to work. If it passes, you all need to get out of there and join a state who will stand up against this type of thing. Leaders can be changed, you need a state where the populous believes as you do and their leaders listen.

If you stay, my prayers WILL be with you. Peace.
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im already at looking to get the fuck out of this shit hole, but at the same time its my home.
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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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I'll never spend another dime in that state. And I've been there several times, skiing.....
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we have high taxes on everything!
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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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LOL okay, go ahead and make them illegal. I'm sure their owners will just hand them over.

NY better have a huge army.
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LOL okay, go ahead and make them illegal. I'm sure their owners will just hand them over.

NY better have a huge army.
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United States of America....UNITED being the clue word. Their Army should be the rest of the 49 states!
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this just in. Politicians leading in NY gun debate:

[link to www.longislandpress.com]
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LOL okay, go ahead and make them illegal. I'm sure their owners will just hand them over.

NY better have a huge army.
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United States of America....UNITED being the clue word. Their Army should be the rest of the 49 states!
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Actually, you're right.
Organizing a petition or trying to get other states involved will be what would commence a war and the nations states would look like a bully for influencing you alls "states rights" making a certain group look like hypocrites and since the MSM comes out of NYC it wouldn't play well. But your right in a moral and ethical sense. Your people have voted, IMO it's only going to get worse in that state, they seem to be set on passing more and more laws to treat the citizens like they belong in a nursery. Your new anchors and their bosses will be your guardian because they have all the answers and they will be the only ones tall enough to reach the juice box to pour your drinks, their children will get about a quarter inch higher juice in their cups, though. They are the NEW ROYALTY or hasn't anyone noticed.
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Ban away, gun rights deniers, but until you can figure out a way to remove the second amendment, you're shit out of luck. We will not comply.
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UnfortunaIy I think if they do this, it is going to be state by state and people will comply. People with families won't risk being shot by DHS.
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Regretfully, banning guns is just the beginning. Like the UK, knives over 5 inches will soon be banned, then other issues will surface. The government will soon have 100% control over your lives. Right now DHS or DEA can break into your home, shot your aminals and threaten your children without any consequences. This has already happened and the courts sided with the government. Very soon there will be one branch of government and that is the President. Congress is begoming a non-entity and the courts are following the President's lead.
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Ban away, gun rights deniers, but until you can figure out a way to remove the second amendment, you're shit out of luck. We will not comply.
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UnfortunaIy I think if they do this, it is going to be state by state and people will comply. People with families won't risk being shot by DHS.
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Regretfully, banning guns is just the beginning. Like the UK, knives over 5 inches will soon be banned, then other issues will surface. The government will soon have 100% control over your lives. Right now DHS or DEA can break into your home, shot your aminals and threaten your children without any consequences. This has already happened and the courts sided with the government. Very soon there will be one branch of government and that is the President. Congress is begoming a non-entity and the courts are following the President's lead.
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This is sadly true
verysad
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

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"Religion and morality are the essential pillars of civil society."

-George Washington, Father of our country & 1st President





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