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XSlyOneX

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I make less than 50k a year. Yet my social security doubled... I vividly remember one of Obama's most recent speeches where he swore up and down he was not going to increase tax on people that make less than 50k...

Once again I've been shafted and make less than ever now... FML
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Liberals TOO!!!

OMG!! the horror!
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He also said your healthcare cost would go down

Did you look at your healthcare cost? Most peoples went up by 8% to 12%ohappy
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4 years of nothing but lies......
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He also said your healthcare cost would go down

Did you look at your healthcare cost? Most peoples went up by 8% to 12%ohappy
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Hell yeah not only am I paying more for that My deductible also Tripled....
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He also said your healthcare cost would go down

Did you look at your healthcare cost? Most peoples went up by 8% to 12%ohappy
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The cost of my healthcare went up 15% I have BCBS of Ca.
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Just sucks after performing well this last year I feel like I got a pay deduction...
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He put in a "payroll tax holiday" 2 years ago. And even stated it was not going to last forever.


It was sacrificed in the name of compromise during the fiscal cliff deal.


Republicans wanted to end it, because democrats were raising the tax on people over 450K.
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[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

From article:

Obama had proposed extending the payroll tax holiday, or something similar, in the first phase of the negotiations. But he dropped that demand weeks ago as his stimulus proposals shrunk rapidly. Heís not revisited the idea since then, and Republicans didnít want it in there in the first place.
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Naaahhhhh, I'm not going to sign that NDAA...
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must be a typo cause i heard them say your taxes will not go up one penny if you lake less than $400,000

LOL
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Bend over and take it. It time for the middle class to pay for the poor in this country. Think of the CHILDREN!cry
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Social Security isn't a tax, it's a ponzi.
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Oh, please. Obama shafted you?, and now again?

Your social security tax went up to the 2% higher rate that had been avoided under the reduction to "stimulate" the economy. NOT double.

You have been, along with all the rest of us, returned to what it was prior to the temporary forgiveness.

If it really shows double then there is a mistake and you should check with your employer not GLP.
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1. Fill out a new W-4 form. This is the form you fill out to determine the amount of withholdings from your pay check that will go against your Tax Bill. You want as high a number of deductions as possible. You want as much money as possible in your check.
2. Liquidate all Paper assets. Cash out your IRA, 401k & sell all Stocks, Bonds, & other securities. Whatever penalty or loss you may take now, is far better than being forced into long term Treasuries which have a negative real yield, a stock market crash, complete confiscation as in MF Global, as well as a 40-60% currency devaluation. Once the Funds become available, withdraw them in Cash. Keep only what you need to pay bills in a small Credit Union checking account. The Goal here is to cause Bank Runs. We Want Bank Runs because it exposes the banks for the ponzi schemes they are. Once people canít get cash out of the banks, they will be much less likely to abandon their means of self-defense as their normalcy bias will be shattered and will no longer believe the lies that Government & media will tell them. Cash is anonymous & it doesnít depend on electricity to function. The Goal is to drain FDIC Banks of Physical Cash
3. Skip a Mortgage payment. The banks will not foreclose on you for only being one month behind. Many people are staying in their homes for a year or 2 without paying anything because the millions properties in shadow inventory. If they put them all on the market, it would collapse real estate values everywhere. When the house is empty, it costs the banks money for upkeep & Association Fees. If youíre worried about your credit score, realize this, your credit score isnít going to matter after a Stock Market Crash, Bank Holiday, and Currency Devaluation. The Federal Reserve, a Private Bank, is printing money out of thin air to buy over $45 Billion worth of Mortgage Backed Securities & $40 Billion worth of Treasury Bonds EVERY MONTH.
4. Stop paying Credit Card Bills, withdraw as much cash from them as possible. A little secret about credit cards is that the currency or debt you add to it when you use it, didnít exist until you swiped the card. One simple concept you must understand about our current currency system is that all money in circulation is created as a debt. Extra Currency is Never created in order to pay the interest. If we paid off all principal debt, there would be no currency in circulation and we would still owe all the interest ever charged. The only way to add debt free currency to this system is to default, but then property is confiscated. Are you starting to see how the entire Dollar System is a scam?
5. If you owe 2012 Income Taxes, Do Not File. If you are getting a refund for the 2012 Tax year, file and get that return. If you are going to owe, DONíT File. The IRS is a criminal collection agency for the Private Federal Reserve. There is NO law that says you have to file. Watch ĎFreedom to Fascismí with Aaron Russo.
6. What to do with all the cash youíve withdrawn from the system? Get armed if you havenít already, 3 months or more of storable food, Water purification. Raise some chickens, start a garden. Get NON-Hybrid NON-GMO HEIRLOOM Seeds, solar panels, wind turbines, generators, and alcohol as a fuel. There is a YouTube video of a truck running on a gasification system fueled by burning manure. Invest in YOURSELF and get gold and silver to use as an alternative currency
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And these a-hole politicians were all patting themselves on the backs about passing this horrible deal. And the media soaked it up, or I should say went along with the criminals. The media is just as guilty as those that harm us. Stand up people. Don't allow this crap anymore.
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hmmm i wonder how long until the ghetto people realize they are being fucked too....oh wait they dont get paychecks, by bad
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When politicians say they want to tax the rich, they mean YOU and ME... in a debt based economy, we the people are the rich.

America, YOU an ME, can borrow as much money as we want from the Federal Reserve, that makes each of us rich and therefore subject to be taxed whatever percentage they feel is equivalent to a "fair share"


Anytime these same clowns say that by increasing welfare, extending unemployment benefits, and insisting that every American has a "right" to healthcare only to instead force every American to PURCHASE health INSURANCE, any rational person would recognize the words they use mean the actions they take will be polar opposites.

Remember how they vilified health insurance companies and those same companies never spoke up to defend themselves (that's because they are working together), same as "the rich" or BIG BANKS, politicians go on T.V. and say things that make them sound evil, greedy, and promise to go after them, but these same rich people, big banks, etc never defend themselves... WHY???

Because it's part of the act and they know it, so what if politician say bad things about them, hell they will even get in the act (Warren Buffet) and say, "PLEASE TAX ME MORE, I SHOULD BE PAYING MORE" because it's a JOKE. They know the politicians are their friends, and will take from us and give to them...

250 million people paying taxes is a hell of a lot of money... 1 person paying taxes is shit...

Get it?


YOU'RE the RICH, so next time someone say's the rich aren't paying their fair share...they mean YOU.
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Oh, please. Obama shafted you?, and now again?

Your social security tax went up to the 2% higher rate that had been avoided under the reduction to "stimulate" the economy. NOT double.

You have been, along with all the rest of us, returned to what it was prior to the temporary forgiveness.

If it really shows double then there is a mistake and you should check with your employer not GLP.
 Quoting: Mickeyblue 9806228


I really feel like posting my paycheck to prove you wrong... Your partially right it wasn't exactly double it was more like 80% but that's close enough to round up.


It most certainly is a hell of a lot more than 2% so bug out.
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When politicians say they want to tax the rich, they mean YOU and ME... in a debt based economy, we the people are the rich.

America, YOU an ME, can borrow as much money as we want from the Federal Reserve, that makes each of us rich and therefore subject to be taxed whatever percentage they feel is equivalent to a "fair share"


Anytime these same clowns say that by increasing welfare, extending unemployment benefits, "boosts the economy", and insisting that every American has a "right" to healthcare only to instead force every American to PURCHASE health INSURANCE, any rational person would recognize the words they use mean the actions they take will be polar opposites.

Remember how they vilified health insurance companies and those same companies never spoke up to defend themselves (that's because they are working together), same as "the rich" or BIG BANKS, politicians go on T.V. and say things that make them sound evil, greedy, and promise to go after them, but these same rich people, big banks, etc never defend themselves... WHY???

Because it's part of the act and they know it, so what if politician say bad things about them, hell they will even get in the act (Warren Buffet) and say, "PLEASE TAX ME MORE, I SHOULD BE PAYING MORE" because it's a JOKE. They know the politicians are their friends, and will take from us and give to them...

250 million people paying taxes is a hell of a lot of money... 1 person paying taxes is shit...

Get it?


YOU'RE the RICH, so next time someone say's the rich aren't paying their fair share...they mean YOU.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12863535


Forgot to add the part in bold.. anyway you get the point... I hope.
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Oh, please. Obama shafted you?, and now again?

Your social security tax went up to the 2% higher rate that had been avoided under the reduction to "stimulate" the economy. NOT double.

You have been, along with all the rest of us, returned to what it was prior to the temporary forgiveness.

If it really shows double then there is a mistake and you should check with your employer not GLP.
 Quoting: Mickeyblue 9806228


I really feel like posting my paycheck to prove you wrong... Your partially right it wasn't exactly double it was more like 80% but that's close enough to round up.


It most certainly is a hell of a lot more than 2% so bug out.
 Quoting: XSlyOneX


ALSO.... The fact that my cost for health insurance also nearly doubled and So did my damn Deductible... In porn reference that's DP!!!

I honestly don't know how you walk around and don't run into poles.
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1. Fill out a new W-4 form. This is the form you fill out to determine the amount of withholdings from your pay check that will go against your Tax Bill. You want as high a number of deductions as possible. You want as much money as possible in your check.
2. Liquidate all Paper assets. Cash out your IRA, 401k & sell all Stocks, Bonds, & other securities. Whatever penalty or loss you may take now, is far better than being forced into long term Treasuries which have a negative real yield, a stock market crash, complete confiscation as in MF Global, as well as a 40-60% currency devaluation. Once the Funds become available, withdraw them in Cash. Keep only what you need to pay bills in a small Credit Union checking account. The Goal here is to cause Bank Runs. We Want Bank Runs because it exposes the banks for the ponzi schemes they are. Once people canít get cash out of the banks, they will be much less likely to abandon their means of self-defense as their normalcy bias will be shattered and will no longer believe the lies that Government & media will tell them. Cash is anonymous & it doesnít depend on electricity to function. The Goal is to drain FDIC Banks of Physical Cash
3. Skip a Mortgage payment. The banks will not foreclose on you for only being one month behind. Many people are staying in their homes for a year or 2 without paying anything because the millions properties in shadow inventory. If they put them all on the market, it would collapse real estate values everywhere. When the house is empty, it costs the banks money for upkeep & Association Fees. If youíre worried about your credit score, realize this, your credit score isnít going to matter after a Stock Market Crash, Bank Holiday, and Currency Devaluation. The Federal Reserve, a Private Bank, is printing money out of thin air to buy over $45 Billion worth of Mortgage Backed Securities & $40 Billion worth of Treasury Bonds EVERY MONTH.
4. Stop paying Credit Card Bills, withdraw as much cash from them as possible. A little secret about credit cards is that the currency or debt you add to it when you use it, didnít exist until you swiped the card. One simple concept you must understand about our current currency system is that all money in circulation is created as a debt. Extra Currency is Never created in order to pay the interest. If we paid off all principal debt, there would be no currency in circulation and we would still owe all the interest ever charged. The only way to add debt free currency to this system is to default, but then property is confiscated. Are you starting to see how the entire Dollar System is a scam?
5. If you owe 2012 Income Taxes, Do Not File. If you are getting a refund for the 2012 Tax year, file and get that return. If you are going to owe, DONíT File. The IRS is a criminal collection agency for the Private Federal Reserve. There is NO law that says you have to file. Watch ĎFreedom to Fascismí with Aaron Russo.
6. What to do with all the cash youíve withdrawn from the system? Get armed if you havenít already, 3 months or more of storable food, Water purification. Raise some chickens, start a garden. Get NON-Hybrid NON-GMO HEIRLOOM Seeds, solar panels, wind turbines, generators, and alcohol as a fuel. There is a YouTube video of a truck running on a gasification system fueled by burning manure. Invest in YOURSELF and get gold and silver to use as an alternative currency
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5059515



You are a complete idiot and anyone who takes this advise will most likely end up with huge legal problems, tax penalties, and possible jail time. People be wise don't take such fool hearty, idealistic advise.


Everybody hate the IRS, and we know it is a illegal institution but they are the Mob and you don't mess with Mobsters they don't play fair.


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I make less than 50k a year. Yet my social security doubled... I vividly remember one of Obama's most recent speeches where he swore up and down he was not going to increase tax on people that make less than 50k...

Once again I've been shafted and make less than ever now... FML
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Politicians always lie. I hope you have finally learned that.
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For the last 5 years I have been making less and less money and that is with getting yearly raises. WTF is wrong with that scenario. Washington you SUCK. Just wait until the masses wakeup, you will have no chance.
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Leftover change from Obummer's vacation fund.
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1. Fill out a new W-4 form. This is the form you fill out to determine the amount of withholdings from your pay check that will go against your Tax Bill. You want as high a number of deductions as possible. You want as much money as possible in your check.
2. Liquidate all Paper assets. Cash out your IRA, 401k & sell all Stocks, Bonds, & other securities. Whatever penalty or loss you may take now, is far better than being forced into long term Treasuries which have a negative real yield, a stock market crash, complete confiscation as in MF Global, as well as a 40-60% currency devaluation. Once the Funds become available, withdraw them in Cash. Keep only what you need to pay bills in a small Credit Union checking account. The Goal here is to cause Bank Runs. We Want Bank Runs because it exposes the banks for the ponzi schemes they are. Once people canít get cash out of the banks, they will be much less likely to abandon their means of self-defense as their normalcy bias will be shattered and will no longer believe the lies that Government & media will tell them. Cash is anonymous & it doesnít depend on electricity to function. The Goal is to drain FDIC Banks of Physical Cash
3. Skip a Mortgage payment. The banks will not foreclose on you for only being one month behind. Many people are staying in their homes for a year or 2 without paying anything because the millions properties in shadow inventory. If they put them all on the market, it would collapse real estate values everywhere. When the house is empty, it costs the banks money for upkeep & Association Fees. If youíre worried about your credit score, realize this, your credit score isnít going to matter after a Stock Market Crash, Bank Holiday, and Currency Devaluation. The Federal Reserve, a Private Bank, is printing money out of thin air to buy over $45 Billion worth of Mortgage Backed Securities & $40 Billion worth of Treasury Bonds EVERY MONTH.
4. Stop paying Credit Card Bills, withdraw as much cash from them as possible. A little secret about credit cards is that the currency or debt you add to it when you use it, didnít exist until you swiped the card. One simple concept you must understand about our current currency system is that all money in circulation is created as a debt. Extra Currency is Never created in order to pay the interest. If we paid off all principal debt, there would be no currency in circulation and we would still owe all the interest ever charged. The only way to add debt free currency to this system is to default, but then property is confiscated. Are you starting to see how the entire Dollar System is a scam?
5. If you owe 2012 Income Taxes, Do Not File. If you are getting a refund for the 2012 Tax year, file and get that return. If you are going to owe, DONíT File. The IRS is a criminal collection agency for the Private Federal Reserve. There is NO law that says you have to file. Watch ĎFreedom to Fascismí with Aaron Russo.
6. What to do with all the cash youíve withdrawn from the system? Get armed if you havenít already, 3 months or more of storable food, Water purification. Raise some chickens, start a garden. Get NON-Hybrid NON-GMO HEIRLOOM Seeds, solar panels, wind turbines, generators, and alcohol as a fuel. There is a YouTube video of a truck running on a gasification system fueled by burning manure. Invest in YOURSELF and get gold and silver to use as an alternative currency
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5059515



You are a complete idiot and anyone who takes this advise will most likely end up with huge legal problems, tax penalties, and possible jail time. People be wise don't take such fool hearty, idealistic advise.


Everybody hate the IRS, and we know it is a illegal institution but they are the Mob and you don't mess with Mobsters they don't play fair.


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STFU limp dick, go lay in your grave already...
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obama said he would not increase 'INCOME TAXES' on ppl making less than 50k.

social security is not INCOME TAX, it is a PAYROLL TAX. it is a part of FICA.

the reason your social security went up is because in 2012, the rate was 4.2% on the first $110,100 of income.

in 2013, the rate is now back up to 6.2% (as it was before the Bush era) on the first $113,700 of income.


yes i am a tax accountant.


your ignorant, how can you not know the difference between income tax and payroll tax!?
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Excellent post below!
click play on this video (music only) and read what this American patriot has written.

1. Fill out a new W-4 form. This is the form you fill out to determine the amount of withholdings from your pay check that will go against your Tax Bill. You want as high a number of deductions as possible. You want as much money as possible in your check.
2. Liquidate all Paper assets. Cash out your IRA, 401k & sell all Stocks, Bonds, & other securities. Whatever penalty or loss you may take now, is far better than being forced into long term Treasuries which have a negative real yield, a stock market crash, complete confiscation as in MF Global, as well as a 40-60% currency devaluation. Once the Funds become available, withdraw them in Cash. Keep only what you need to pay bills in a small Credit Union checking account. The Goal here is to cause Bank Runs. We Want Bank Runs because it exposes the banks for the ponzi schemes they are. Once people canít get cash out of the banks, they will be much less likely to abandon their means of self-defense as their normalcy bias will be shattered and will no longer believe the lies that Government & media will tell them. Cash is anonymous & it doesnít depend on electricity to function. The Goal is to drain FDIC Banks of Physical Cash
3. Skip a Mortgage payment. The banks will not foreclose on you for only being one month behind. Many people are staying in their homes for a year or 2 without paying anything because the millions properties in shadow inventory. If they put them all on the market, it would collapse real estate values everywhere. When the house is empty, it costs the banks money for upkeep & Association Fees. If youíre worried about your credit score, realize this, your credit score isnít going to matter after a Stock Market Crash, Bank Holiday, and Currency Devaluation. The Federal Reserve, a Private Bank, is printing money out of thin air to buy over $45 Billion worth of Mortgage Backed Securities & $40 Billion worth of Treasury Bonds EVERY MONTH.
4. Stop paying Credit Card Bills, withdraw as much cash from them as possible. A little secret about credit cards is that the currency or debt you add to it when you use it, didnít exist until you swiped the card. One simple concept you must understand about our current currency system is that all money in circulation is created as a debt. Extra Currency is Never created in order to pay the interest. If we paid off all principal debt, there would be no currency in circulation and we would still owe all the interest ever charged. The only way to add debt free currency to this system is to default, but then property is confiscated. Are you starting to see how the entire Dollar System is a scam?
5. If you owe 2012 Income Taxes, Do Not File. If you are getting a refund for the 2012 Tax year, file and get that return. If you are going to owe, DONíT File. The IRS is a criminal collection agency for the Private Federal Reserve. There is NO law that says you have to file. Watch ĎFreedom to Fascismí with Aaron Russo.
6. What to do with all the cash youíve withdrawn from the system? Get armed if you havenít already, 3 months or more of storable food, Water purification. Raise some chickens, start a garden. Get NON-Hybrid NON-GMO HEIRLOOM Seeds, solar panels, wind turbines, generators, and alcohol as a fuel. There is a YouTube video of a truck running on a gasification system fueled by burning manure. Invest in YOURSELF and get gold and silver to use as an alternative currency
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obama said he would not increase 'INCOME TAXES' on ppl making less than 50k.

social security is not INCOME TAX, it is a PAYROLL TAX. it is a part of FICA.

the reason your social security went up is because in 2012, the rate was 4.2% on the first $110,100 of income.

in 2013, the rate is now back up to 6.2% (as it was before the Bush era) on the first $113,700 of income.


yes i am a tax accountant.


your ignorant, how can you not know the difference between income tax and payroll tax!?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22764816


Yup, my husband just got done explaining this to me also. The "increase" is just putting your payroll tax back to where it was.
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There is more here then what meets the eyes:


You see, As far as I know, people working under 30hrs a week are going to be in for a big big surprise come April next year, when they go to the tax man and say they don't have health insurance.

But this year, there is a new tax line which we all will be paying. I forgot what it's called but its called the AMT or GMT or something like that, The baptist preacher from the alaska oil pipeline was talking about this the other day, and will come out to be another 6% or so on top of what one would be paying in taxes.

So lets see, payroll taxes are already at about 20 - 22%, and sales tax when you actually go to use that money is another 8 to 10% so we are already at 30% tax as it is. But there's even more:

Since helicopter Ben has elected to more then double the monthly indefinite printing from $40bln a month to $85bln a month, we can expect to see inflation to continue to rise about 6% month after month.

So take your 30%, and add 6% on top of it month after month.

This plan dovetails with another thread which points to June Doom. Thread: Must Read...Our Sun has been protecting us from our Center ....Not any more though!

So the question is: Can they disarm us or enslave us in debt fast enough???
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