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Sandy Hook - The Legend of Kaitlin Roig ----Updated 2-13-13

 
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Very good, does look like some kind of unmanned drone!
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Wow. I don't know what to make of that...
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It almost looks like a private plane in scale from the view from the helicopter. Still strange though.....why would it be flying in so close?
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Almost looks smaller than your average Cessna type plane, and it doesn't appear to have any markings on it. Seriously weird.
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I thought that too, but if you look at the ground and compare to cars and such, it looks to be scale. Almost like the helicopter was much further back and zooming in. I didn't notice the lack of markings though?! Good call.
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Has anyone been checking these peoples Facebooks? I found something strange. Cathy Mazzariello is listed as Assistant Principal, yet her Facebook says she has been retired for 3 yrs I think? I have also checked the custodians FB and it is strangely upbeat. Weirdness...I may be missing something.
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Has anyone been checking these peoples Facebooks? I found something strange. Cathy Mazzariello is listed as Assistant Principal, yet her Facebook says she has been retired for 3 yrs I think? I have also checked the custodians FB and it is strangely upbeat. Weirdness...I may be missing something.
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I don't know what to make of all the fb stuff. Somebody posted a link earlier in this thread to a fb page for Kaitlin Roig that looks like an obvious fake.
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I've seen all the 'crisis actor' threads, but I haven't seen a thread dedicated to Ms. Roig yet.
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More internet gang stalking.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


Speaking of gangstalking, here you are in a Sandy Hook thread again.

No, sir, it's not gang stalking. It's trying to figure out what really happened since we have obviously been lied to.
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There was some minor confusion between "bathroom" and "closet" in the initial reporting which nobody bothered to correct because NOBODY ELSE GIVES A SHIT.

Meanwhile you're dragging another innocent victim's name through the mud and exposing her to who knows what by putting her face and name out on sites like this which cater to the mentally ill.
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Which reminds me, aren't you due back at the funny farm? You deranged asshat...

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Regardless of where Kaitlin hid the children, how did she have TIME to get them all hidden before the gunman walked past her classroom.

How do you hide 15 children in under a minute?

It makes me wonder if the gunman deliberately skipped her classroom, and, if he did, why.
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Regardless of where Kaitlin hid the children, how did she have TIME to get them all hidden before the gunman walked past her classroom.

How do you hide 15 children in under a minute?

It makes me wonder if the gunman deliberately skipped her classroom, and, if he did, why.
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She apparently had time, while Rousseau apparently had no time. There's no report of anybody being hid in Rousseau's class.

Lanza went to Rousseau's room before Soto's. What was going on in Soto's room while the shooting was taking place in Rousseau's?

Roig got all her kids hidden before all of that.

In a bathroom.

I mean, closet.

With a door that opened inward.
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Very good, does look like some kind of unmanned drone!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27531391


Wow. I don't know what to make of that...
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It almost looks like a private plane in scale from the view from the helicopter. Still strange though.....why would it be flying in so close?
 Quoting: blind squirrel


Almost looks smaller than your average Cessna type plane, and it doesn't appear to have any markings on it. Seriously weird.
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It looks like a CGI plane and gives credence to those who suspect that the incident and "helicopter flyover" were not done by the media but to give raw footage of the event since it's probably a safe bet that no news copters were really allowed to film on Friday.

It gives credence to my suspicion that the "chase scene" was staged earlier at this time also. It might have been part of a laundry list of plausible scenarios to choose from.
And though the media went with BOTH brothers for awhile,
Ryan AND Adam, Ryan was later expunged from the storyline altogether.
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Sent a Good Karma your way, OP, which you deserve for fighting so well in a shill ambush like this.

Now I haven't been anywhere near an elementary school for years, but - do they really have a bathroom in the classrooms?

Will someone enlighten me?
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Don't get me wrong, I also believe the whole Sandy Hook story/shooting is a fake, BUT, to answer the question about a bathroom in a classroom....yes, oftentimes they DO have a bathroom in a classroom. In fact, sometimes, if other bathrooms are nearby, teachers will use that space as storage (or a closet).
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OP, I hope you don't mind if I make an observation about
Dawn Hochsprung here and Mary Sherlach and allegedly Natalie
Hammond also. One might could overlook one member of faculty going against drill-training in a situation, but not 3 people. There has never been given anything but double talk about how or why these 3 teachers after supposedly seeing and hearing a man shoot out the window go contrary to normal human behavior and training to rush out unarmed to meet an armed person coming in.

I believe this is a flat-out lie. I don't know if any of these women were shot or not. Or where it might have happened. I don't know why or where the conference room they rushed out of was or if this is where Hammond was alleged to have crawled to "safety" to.

I do not understand in general the thread running through any of these stories about putting kids in closets as if
this somehow made them safe and bullet-proof.
Not in the real world. In drill world, maybe so.
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Sent a Good Karma your way, OP, which you deserve for fighting so well in a shill ambush like this.

Now I haven't been anywhere near an elementary school for years, but - do they really have a bathroom in the classrooms?

Will someone enlighten me?
 Quoting: 13th-Century


Don't get me wrong, I also believe the whole Sandy Hook story/shooting is a fake, BUT, to answer the question about a bathroom in a classroom....yes, oftentimes they DO have a bathroom in a classroom. In fact, sometimes, if other bathrooms are nearby, teachers will use that space as storage (or a closet).
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If you look at the two stories in the original post, the first refers to a bathroom, which concurs with the Sawer interview; while the second specifically says a closet with a door that opens inward.

Neither story says it ways a bathroom and also a closet, or a bathroom used as a closet.
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OP, I hope you don't mind if I make an observation about
Dawn Hochsprung here and Mary Sherlach and allegedly Natalie
Hammond also. One might could overlook one member of faculty going against drill-training in a situation, but not 3 people. There has never been given anything but double talk about how or why these 3 teachers after supposedly seeing and hearing a man shoot out the window go contrary to normal human behavior and training to rush out unarmed to meet an armed person coming in.

I believe this is a flat-out lie. I don't know if any of these women were shot or not. Or where it might have happened. I don't know why or where the conference room they rushed out of was or if this is where Hammond was alleged to have crawled to "safety" to.

I do not understand in general the thread running through any of these stories about putting kids in closets as if
this somehow made them safe and bullet-proof.
Not in the real world. In drill world, maybe so.
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I'm not sure what drill training calls for. In any case, instinct could have taken over, I suppose.

Who was manning the video monitoring system?

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OP, I hope you don't mind if I make an observation about
Dawn Hochsprung here and Mary Sherlach and allegedly Natalie
Hammond also. One might could overlook one member of faculty going against drill-training in a situation, but not 3 people. There has never been given anything but double talk about how or why these 3 teachers after supposedly seeing and hearing a man shoot out the window go contrary to normal human behavior and training to rush out unarmed to meet an armed person coming in.

I believe this is a flat-out lie. I don't know if any of these women were shot or not. Or where it might have happened. I don't know why or where the conference room they rushed out of was or if this is where Hammond was alleged to have crawled to "safety" to.

I do not understand in general the thread running through any of these stories about putting kids in closets as if
this somehow made them safe and bullet-proof.
Not in the real world. In drill world, maybe so.
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I'm not sure what drill training calls for. In any case, instinct could have taken over, I suppose.

Who was manning the video monitoring system?

[link to www.wtnh.com]
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


They probably only glance at the monitor when the buzzer sounded on a daily basis.

I differ on what the instinct would take over when you hear or see someone shooting. Your FIRST instinct is to take cover, or run away (flight response).
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OP, I hope you don't mind if I make an observation about
Dawn Hochsprung here and Mary Sherlach and allegedly Natalie
Hammond also. One might could overlook one member of faculty going against drill-training in a situation, but not 3 people. There has never been given anything but double talk about how or why these 3 teachers after supposedly seeing and hearing a man shoot out the window go contrary to normal human behavior and training to rush out unarmed to meet an armed person coming in.

I believe this is a flat-out lie. I don't know if any of these women were shot or not. Or where it might have happened. I don't know why or where the conference room they rushed out of was or if this is where Hammond was alleged to have crawled to "safety" to.

I do not understand in general the thread running through any of these stories about putting kids in closets as if
this somehow made them safe and bullet-proof.
Not in the real world. In drill world, maybe so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


I'm not sure what drill training calls for. In any case, instinct could have taken over, I suppose.

Who was manning the video monitoring system?

[link to www.wtnh.com]
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


They probably only glance at the monitor when the buzzer sounded on a daily basis.

I differ on what the instinct would take over when you hear or see someone shooting. Your FIRST instinct is to take cover, or run away (flight response).
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Good point.

Surveillance video footage would certainly answer a lot of questions.

Ms. Hammond has not been interviewed, to my knowledge.
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Track these actors and see where they are in about 2 years.
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new posts from 8 jan 2013 i tested with my own profile, the pic looks real and i couldn't find the profile pic on google images, however it still not a proof, imho
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nope, just more and more weirdness...this is going a long the lines of 9/11...everyday, new info comes out...
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Take screenshots of everything.

Thursday when I googled Kaitlin Roig it returned 95,000 results. I made the mistake of not taking a screen shot, and now it's 310,000.

I'm sure shills will charge I made up the 95,000, as I have no proof.

I did, however, take a screen shot of the Newtown Bee database search of the word 'roig' which yields 0 results.
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Good- I got 15 shots of the FB...
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Real or fake, the fb account has been updated. Hope you got the screenshots.
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I just watched this video of this Roig woman.

She says first that she heard gunshots, already realized she is the first classroom, wonders why he isn't coming in, somehow manages to usher her kids into a bathroom, pulls a bookshelf in front of it, TURNS THE LIGHTS OUT, and tells the kids to be quiet.

Then she goes on to repeat quite a lot of conversation that they had while hiding in the bathroom. About the kid who knows karate, the kid who doesn't want to die because it's Christmas, about being absolutely quiet because there are bad guys, telling them she loves them etc...

But this is the weirdest thing to me. It's tightly crammed there, she's got someone on the toilet and it's also probably pitch black because she says she has the lights out AND a bookshelf is in front of the door.

But did you notice how she says she holds the kids faces in her hands and comforts them? Diane asks her, "Did they cry?" and she goes, "No, if they started crying I would like take their face in my hands and go 'It's gonna be ok' or 'show me your smile'".

It's pitch black and crammed, yet she is managing to get down to each kid and hold their face in her hands to comfort them? And she asks to see their smile in the darkness. HUH?

Sure, whatever.

I am the mom of a 1st grader. If you stuck her and her classmates into the toilet in the dark, while gunshots are going off, they would be FREAKING HYSTERICAL. And if they weren't they'd be turning the faucets on and off, flushing the toilet, complaining that the toilet holder was smooshing into their butt or the papertowel thing was in their hair. Whatever - her story just does NOT ring true at all.

Also she says, referring to those who were killed, "My heart goes out to anyone who knew them and was a part of their lives because I just, I just can't imagine..." wipes fake tear.

What do you MEAN you can't imagine?? You lost colleagues and kids you saw every day. You SHOULD be able to imagine pretty darn well, I'd think!
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I just watched this video of this Roig woman.

She says first that she heard gunshots, already realized she is the first classroom, wonders why he isn't coming in, somehow manages to usher her kids into a bathroom, pulls a bookshelf in front of it, TURNS THE LIGHTS OUT, and tells the kids to be quiet.

Then she goes on to repeat quite a lot of conversation that they had while hiding in the bathroom. About the kid who knows karate, the kid who doesn't want to die because it's Christmas, about being absolutely quiet because there are bad guys, telling them she loves them etc...

But this is the weirdest thing to me. It's tightly crammed there, she's got someone on the toilet and it's also probably pitch black because she says she has the lights out AND a bookshelf is in front of the door.

But did you notice how she says she holds the kids faces in her hands and comforts them? Diane asks her, "Did they cry?" and she goes, "No, if they started crying I would like take their face in my hands and go 'It's gonna be ok' or 'show me your smile'".

It's pitch black and crammed, yet she is managing to get down to each kid and hold their face in her hands to comfort them? And she asks to see their smile in the darkness. HUH?

Sure, whatever.

I am the mom of a 1st grader. If you stuck her and her classmates into the toilet in the dark, while gunshots are going off, they would be FREAKING HYSTERICAL. And if they weren't they'd be turning the faucets on and off, flushing the toilet, complaining that the toilet holder was smooshing into their butt or the papertowel thing was in their hair. Whatever - her story just does NOT ring true at all.

Also she says, referring to those who were killed, "My heart goes out to anyone who knew them and was a part of their lives because I just, I just can't imagine..." wipes fake tear.

What do you MEAN you can't imagine?? You lost colleagues and kids you saw every day. You SHOULD be able to imagine pretty darn well, I'd think!
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Good observations.
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Everybody read this thread(slowly and carefully, taking hours if needed), and then read it again 3 times, and then go find the next conspiracy thread and do the same. Spend all day and night on trying to figure out the massive Sandy Hook conpiracy. Dont do anything else.

Spend as much time as possible on this thread and those like it, so that you dont spend time on important real issues.

The more dead end road, wild goose chases we can send you on, the less emphasis that is placed on real issues.

thanks and as always have nice day
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Everybody read this thread(slowly and carefully, taking hours if needed), and then read it again 3 times, and then go find the next conspiracy thread and do the same. Spend all day and night on trying to figure out the massive Sandy Hook conpiracy. Dont do anything else.

Spend as much time as possible on this thread and those like it, so that you dont spend time on important real issues.

The more dead end road, wild goose chases we can send you on, the less emphasis that is placed on real issues.

thanks and as always have nice day
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A massive cover-up of a mass murder is a real issue.

Why do you waste your time in all the S.H. threads? Because the NSA pays you to?
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Everybody read this thread(slowly and carefully, taking hours if needed), and then read it again 3 times, and then go find the next conspiracy thread and do the same. Spend all day and night on trying to figure out the massive Sandy Hook conpiracy. Dont do anything else.

Spend as much time as possible on this thread and those like it, so that you dont spend time on important real issues.

The more dead end road, wild goose chases we can send you on, the less emphasis that is placed on real issues.

thanks and as always have nice day
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BUMP

although people shouldn't obsess to an unhealthy point, a lot of attention needs to be paid to details and not debunking look-a-likes (and stupid shit like that)
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Now the FB (assumed by me to be fake) account says: Minnie Roig (Minnie Kait Roig)

The 'Tranny' image is gone, only the 'kitten on the piano' cover image is public,

and all the fake posts are gone too, or at least changed in privacy settings.

Personally i don't give too much credit to this account, however just to keep you posted,

Few days ago i thought it was completely gone.
[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
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I didn't feel like reading through nine pages to see if anyone told you all to look at the Sandy Hook Case Closed thread where this particular woman is confirmed to be an actress (on 2 episodes of X-files and more) through facial recognition software.
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Now the FB (assumed by me to be fake) account says: Minnie Roig (Minnie Kait Roig)

The 'Tranny' image is gone, only the 'kitten on the piano' cover image is public,

and all the fake posts are gone too, or at least changed in privacy settings.

Personally i don't give too much credit to this account, however just to keep you posted,

Few days ago i thought it was completely gone.
[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
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Thanks for the update.

I knew it was a bogus fb account the second I saw it.
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There is a facebook page called Kaitlyn Roig is a Hero.

There are many people on that page calling her a liar and saying she is wiping away fake tears.

Kaitlyn herself posts asking to take the page down. Her facebook page is Kaitlin Mary R

Here is the hero page:
[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

and here is Kaitlin Mary R page:
[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
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I just dug a little further into the facebook page (Kaitlin Mary R) that I posted above, and I clicked on her fiance's facebook. Most of his photos are public...including one of her on Dec 14 all dressed up and having a glass of wine that evening. I can't say for sure that it was taken that day...but the comments are like "well-deserved glass of wine for your hero fiancee". I just can't fathom getting dressed up and going out for a glass of wine after a day like that...but then again if all the parents of dead kids are laughing it up the following day, I guess it should not come as a surprise.
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I just dug a little further into the facebook page (Kaitlin Mary R) that I posted above, and I clicked on her fiance's facebook. Most of his photos are public...including one of her on Dec 14 all dressed up and having a glass of wine that evening. I can't say for sure that it was taken that day...but the comments are like "well-deserved glass of wine for your hero fiancee". I just can't fathom getting dressed up and going out for a glass of wine after a day like that...but then again if all the parents of dead kids are laughing it up the following day, I guess it should not come as a surprise.
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When I click the link you provide above, the Mary R. account, sends me to fb and says content unavailable.
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Ok, I think I've officially spent too much time thinking about this...

When was the interview with Diane Sawyer filmed??

Was it the same day, next day?

Kaitlin, on her fiance's facebook page, looks REALLY good. Like professional model or cheerleader good. mini skirts, hot figure, makeup, long pretty hair, mani, etc. He posted a photo of her on the evening of the 14th having a glass of wine (I can't say of course if the photo was taken that day or not). She is a woman who takes great pride in her appearance.

In that video with Diane, she is clearly not wearing any makeup. She's not crying any real tears, her eyes aren't red, but she's not wearing makeup (ie there's no reason for her not to be wearing makeup because she's NOT CRYING). There is NO WAY a woman like that is going to go on an interview with Diane Sawyer without makeup, and her hair thrown up in some half assed pony tail like she's laying around the house. I just don't buy it. I don't.

They even seem to be filming her from the least flattering angle possible, with really harsh lighting as if to make her look less pretty and more real.

My point is...well, yet again, something is just WEIRD. Why are they trying so hard to make her look so plain? Look at her facebook pic...she's really very pretty. The interview barely looks like her.

Also her boyfriend's facebook photos with her only go back to October 2012...is anyone surprised about this?
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I got to the page by googling "Kaitlin Roig is a Hero", then you'll find a facebook page. One of the posts is from Kaitlin Mary R and it's her own profile.

If you click on her profile, you can visit her fiance's page. His name is Nick DeBellis. Her page is not private at all and I can see all of her posts....
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I didn't feel like reading through nine pages to see if anyone told you all to look at the Sandy Hook Case Closed thread where this particular woman is confirmed to be an actress (on 2 episodes of X-files and more) through facial recognition software.
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SHE IS A CONFIRMED ACTRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Link please.





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