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Democrats urge Obama to be ready to bypass Congress on debt limit

 
Bucephelus
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Democrats urge Obama to be ready to bypass Congress on debt limit
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You Democrats are about to cross the line with this shit!

ONLY Congress has the right to do this:
Article I, Section 8. "The Congress shall have power ...
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;"



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Top Democratic senators urged President Barack Obama on Friday to be ready to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval in order to avert a damaging debt default.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and his leadership team said Obama should use "any lawful steps" under his authority to "ensure that America does not break its promises and trigger a global economic crisis."

They urged Obama to act on his own if Republicans insist on a debt limit extension that is coupled with "unbalanced or unreasonable" spending cuts.

Some analysts and Democrats believe the 14th Amendment of the Constitution gives the president the authority to raise the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling unilaterally.

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It's fucking amazing that the leader of one branch of Congress
is asking the Executive Branch to violate the Constitution
and usurp power away from both branches of Congress.

Harry Reid is becoming a clear and present danger to the People.

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Setting the "Precedent"
MMmm?
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MMmm?
 Quoting: TastyThoughts
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The executive branch was never meant to have the ability to control the budget for all of government.

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MMmm?
 Quoting: TastyThoughts
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The executive branch was never meant to have the ability to control the budget for all of government.

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The thing that amuses me, is when he was in the senate, he said it was morally wrong to raise the debt limit. That it is inslaving our children.

Now as potus, he sings a new tune.
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Setting the "Precedent"
MMmm?
 Quoting: TastyThoughts
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The executive branch was never meant to have the ability to control the budget for all of government.

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 Quoting: Bucephelus


So first we hear that POTUS might use an executive order to push through a new mandate on guns

basically giving the finger to representative government

Now the elected members themselves are begging him to bypass them and again rule by fiat

Why bother having elections then?

Apparently we just got ourselves a king

Y'know, I didnt like Bush much either, but honestly , if Bush had done half this crap, democrats would be howling tyranny and dictatorship

but when their guy does it, it's A-OK

Both sides suck eggs...time for a new party, obviously these two aren't up for the job of representing us
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Re: Democrats urge Obama to be ready to bypass Congress on debt limit
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You Democrats are about to cross the line with this shit!

ONLY Congress has the right to do this:
Article I, Section 8. "The Congress shall have power ...
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;"



[link to news.yahoo.com]

Top Democratic senators urged President Barack Obama on Friday to be ready to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval in order to avert a damaging debt default.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and his leadership team said Obama should use "any lawful steps" under his authority to "ensure that America does not break its promises and trigger a global economic crisis."

They urged Obama to act on his own if Republicans insist on a debt limit extension that is coupled with "unbalanced or unreasonable" spending cuts.

Some analysts and Democrats believe the 14th Amendment of the Constitution gives the president the authority to raise the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling unilaterally.

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 Quoting: Bucephelus


we will see how this fares....have u check ur paycheck lately???...
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See how they do it...

Oh he's just going to "temporarily" seize power to save the world...

Of course the never give it back...

Just call him Ceasar...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

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See how they do it...

Oh he's just going to "temporarily" seize power to save the world...

Of course the never give it back...

Just call him Ceasar...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


And we've had Government shut downs before that didn't implode the economy, so that's a bullshit excuse...besides, the economy is already dead, it just doesn't know it yet...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Re: Democrats urge Obama to be ready to bypass Congress on debt limit
See how they do it...

Oh he's just going to "temporarily" seize power to save the world...

Of course the never give it back...

Just call him Ceasar...

 Quoting: Saddletramp


And we've had Government shut downs before that didn't implode the economy, so that's a bullshit excuse...besides, the economy is already dead, it just doesn't know it yet...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


exactly

more and more headlines out of DC lately remind me of an episode of "I Claudius"

we need a good old fashioned palace revolt

clear some house
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Re: Democrats urge Obama to be ready to bypass Congress on debt limit
Setting the "Precedent"
MMmm?
 Quoting: TastyThoughts
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The executive branch was never meant to have the ability to control the budget for all of government.
 Quoting: Bucephelus

You may have misinterpreted the point. That happens in this format of communication often.
So, Precedent in terms of pulling the wool over the sheeps eyes. The golden fleece?
"They cannot see what's-up if They are looking down." (TastyThoughts)
"Something is smelly! Something is smelly, like an old barnacle encrusted shoe washing ashore in the middle of summer." (TastyThoughts)
"Yes happy Earth day. Now go tell the wicked to stop damaging the Human Species therefore/and the Earth; For, they are discombobulating the entire Universe and upsetting the Most High God." (TastyThoughts)
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This shit is getting outta hand. These members of congress that are suggesting that he use an E.O. for things that won't pass through the house and Senate should be held for treason.

We have a system for creating laws here in America. If law can be created by one man and his pen, then I'm sorry folks, our president will be a dictator and this will in fact be a communist dictatorship.

And really, to other countries we must look like fools. Hypocritical, out of control fools.
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WHAT is UP with all this trying to BYPASS congress on everything!? That's what it's there for right?
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Re: Democrats urge Obama to be ready to bypass Congress on debt limit
See how they do it...

Oh he's just going to "temporarily" seize power to save the world...

Of course the never give it back...

Just call him Ceasar...

 Quoting: Saddletramp


And we've had Government shut downs before that didn't implode the economy, so that's a bullshit excuse...besides, the economy is already dead, it just doesn't know it yet...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


exactly

more and more headlines out of DC lately remind me of an episode of "I Claudius"

we need a good old fashioned palace revolt

clear some house
 Quoting: IssueX


Eh tu Brute...
"And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius

"Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..."
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Re: Democrats urge Obama to be ready to bypass Congress on debt limit
What I think is big fun that you Yanks hardly see the difference between a deficit problem and a new weapon rule. In between your US Army is already involveld in a war against Mali in Africa.
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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Re: Democrats urge Obama to be ready to bypass Congress on debt limit
Setting the "Precedent"
MMmm?
 Quoting: TastyThoughts
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The executive branch was never meant to have the ability to control the budget for all of government.

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 Quoting: Bucephelus


If he does it , then the u.s must be under martial law and or a declaration of imminent invasion of war , and the constitution is suspended along with all other government powers.



hmmmmmmhiding
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Is that going to be the new AmeriKa?

Bypass Congress on whatever you want?

What's the difference between that, and a total and complete dictatorship??
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Only a dictator would bypass congress to raise the debt limit or ban guns....
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how much more needs to happen before the tyranny you fear actually begins?
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how much more needs to happen before the tyranny you fear actually begins?
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You serious ... begins?? No fly lists, TSA pat downs and privacy invasions, warrantless communications monitoring, weaponized drone assassinations approved by President Small Ball, governing by executive orders, enforce the law of land including the Constitution only when it fits the agenda, not pass a budget going on 4 years

Add it all up and the US of A is well on the way.
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If the republicans tried this the media would crucify them. Instead they're to busy sucking Obamas dick. In four years we will be a 3rd world nation and obamas job will be done.
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Re: Democrats urge Obama to be ready to bypass Congress on debt limit
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You Democrats are about to cross the line with this shit!

ONLY Congress has the right to do this:
Article I, Section 8. "The Congress shall have power ...
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;"



[link to news.yahoo.com]

Top Democratic senators urged President Barack Obama on Friday to be ready to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval in order to avert a damaging debt default.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and his leadership team said Obama should use "any lawful steps" under his authority to "ensure that America does not break its promises and trigger a global economic crisis."

They urged Obama to act on his own if Republicans insist on a debt limit extension that is coupled with "unbalanced or unreasonable" spending cuts.

Some analysts and Democrats believe the 14th Amendment of the Constitution gives the president the authority to raise the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling unilaterally.

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 Quoting: Bucephelus

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