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4 Teens rob, kill and dismember 2..then continue playing video games with dead bodies...

 
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Lack of parental guidance is probably the biggest contributor. There are parents who shove their kids on those drugs instead of putting forth the effort to deal with the child's issues. A lot of parents (if that's what you can even call them) are too self absorbed to sacrifice themselves for their children. Sadly, this is the result and it isn't going to change. If anything it's only going to get worse because narcissism is pandemic among our young people.
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You go that right. I am seriously scared about what will happen to our country when this generation is running the show!
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Hollywood and MTV have created monsters...
I guess that's what they have to do in order to keep the illusion of a 'just' war on XX fronts worldwide. It's gonna get more macabre.
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Gross photo! Yes...you are correct about Hollywood creating monsters. Also video games, etc...no respect for human life. Blood and gore. Add drugs.

One of the people on FB is saying they were all on drugs.
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Hope we aren't starting a compilation here.
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Hollywood and MTV have created monsters...
I guess that's what they have to do in order to keep the illusion of a 'just' war on XX fronts worldwide. It's gonna get more macabre.
 Quoting: BuggedOut


Gross photo! Yes...you are correct about Hollywood creating monsters. Also video games, etc...no respect for human life. Blood and gore. Add drugs.

One of the people on FB is saying they were all on drugs.
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I think that picture depicts youth today very well. (not all youth-generalizing)

They think the gross gore is the coolest thing.
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You ask yourself how these things can happen?

Try searching for the most hardcore shock horror movies out there and then experience the most dispicible disgusting garbage you could imagine.

Example, Human Centipede 2, August Underground, Salo, A Serbian Film..

This is the crap our youths are watching and laughing about, while it changes them into serial murderers
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I disagree 100%... I refuse to believe that a movie can "change" someone into a serial killer. You are either a sicko or youre not.
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Hollywood and MTV have created monsters...
I guess that's what they have to do in order to keep the illusion of a 'just' war on XX fronts worldwide. It's gonna get more macabre.
 Quoting: BuggedOut


Gross photo! Yes...you are correct about Hollywood creating monsters. Also video games, etc...no respect for human life. Blood and gore. Add drugs.

One of the people on FB is saying they were all on drugs.
 Quoting: nutmeg


I think that picture depicts youth today very well. (not all youth-generalizing)

They think the gross gore is the coolest thing.
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This might be the baby's daddy...gosh...the conversations these people have...especially on some photos!!
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What the frick is wrong with our youth?? One suspect was a cop's kid!


JOLIET — Police say four young adults — one the son of a Joliet police sergeant — lured two friends to a house robbing them and strangling them to death.

After the murders, the suspects “continued the party atmosphere” even after attempting to dismember the bodies until being surprised when police arrived, Chief Mike Trafton said. Then they played video games, police said.


[link to heraldnews.suntimes.com]
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Fucking DISGUSTING!!! Take a look at the lone picture of that Joshua Miner. You can see the EVIL just by looking at his eyes!! This is some fucked up shit man.
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No morals or respect for life those fuckers had. Much like the British.
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:bad_smile:
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wow 4 white young adults kill 2 black males, dismember them and play video games like nothing happened, all for a couple bucks??? why isnt this pinned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And they went a bit outside the typical stereotype with the two teen females joining in. We seriously have NO future! These youth cannot breed and raise kids!
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This has got to be evil or white trash gone wild on bath salts or something. Take a look at the picture of that Joshua Miner character. When you look into his eyes, I swear to god that you can see the soul of satan! This is some truly fucked up shit.
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They are all adults so we can hope if found guilty they get death. How is Illinois on the death penalty?
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Dude. These "young adults" will never see the light of day. $10 million bail. Fucking crazy!!
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wtfwtfwtfwtfwtfwtf

HOLY SHIT!!!
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wow 4 white young adults kill 2 black males, dismember them and play video games like nothing happened, all for a couple bucks??? why isnt this pinned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28699071


And they went a bit outside the typical stereotype with the two teen females joining in. We seriously have NO future! These youth cannot breed and raise kids!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15676325


This has got to be evil or white trash gone wild on bath salts or something. Take a look at the picture of that Joshua Miner character. When you look into his eyes, I swear to god that you can see the soul of satan! This is some truly fucked up shit.
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Would that look of evil be noticeable before you knew what he did?
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calling names only shows your inner fear.


think what you like
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Yes, people like you are my inner fear, because its ignorant zealots like yourself that are perpetuating false hope! i know you mean well and it still doesn't change reality.
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What happened to you? You used to be so humble. I had a great amount of respect for you. Now it looks like you're an arrogant cunt.
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Wow, i am humbled at your attack on my character.
And obviously i came across the wrong way. i'm just fed up with people saying we're in the end times and Jesus is going to save us. i think we need to save ourselves. But thanks for your kind words! Excuse me for having an opinion.
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Be an arrogant cunt and I will call you an arrogant cunt.
Snap the fuck out of it.
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No morals or respect for life those fuckers had. Much like the British.
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:bad_smile:
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Scottish ;D
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I'm sorry but playing Call of Duty does not remove a person's conscience and sense of right and wrong. Using videogames as the scapegoat here is no more valid, or productive, than blaming rock music or pot was in previous decades.

I mean, if someone raged out and shot someone, maybe I could see at least looking for an association between violent, intense videogames and that action.

But what these kids was premeditated evil. Finding an easy scapegoat in videogames is lazy, counterproductive, and just plain dumb. I'm sorry, but the universe isn't going to wrap this one up in a neat little bow and have it solved by next friday.

It's a complex issue, if you think there's an easy answer, you're dumb.
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these are the end times

tribulation just around the corner

the BIBle talks about this kind of person rampant in the end times....

prepare and stay safe
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Yep, curse those who put darkness for light and light for darkness, we are in for scary times when people see good as being evil and evil as being good, we are in for a rough ride, the darkness cometh!
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WHAT THE FUCK? THEY STRANGLED THEM? NO GUNS WERE USED? OMG I WANT MORE HAND CONTROL ASAP!!!! OUTLAW HANDS, THE TRIBES IN AFRICA GOT IT RIGHT, MACHETEE TIME!!!!!
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I bet they were all on Prozac.
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I thought they would be black.
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Meth culture at its finest!electric_s
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dismembered their penises.

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What sets off this "Monster" that some people think sets deep inside the mind of a "Gamer"? I'm curious as to why people jump to this conclusion so boldly and with angst. Most will say it hits the nail on the head perfectly. The kid was playing this game a lot, it had blood and gore, the kid acted on those impulses, there ya go answers everything. But I can't take that answer.

Let's take a look at the numbers
Black ops 2 sold over 11 million units before december
Halo 4 sold 3.2 million on launch week
The video game industry grossed 17 billion in 2011 but dropped 22% to 13.2 billion this year.

With these figures it's safe to say that gamers are everywhere. But that doesn't create the "Monster" does it? Most peoria who take the side of "Video games had cause in this behavior" will usually say that it is hard core gamers. People who play hours after hours every day. This somehow installs the repetive process of killing, stealing, and causing havoc. The process they call "conditioning".

I have played video games since I was a Wee Lad. Memories of Super Mario 3 and Mike Tyson's Punch-out bring a smile. I have played any game you could through at me. Mayhem, GTA, Mortal Kombat, Call of Duty, Halo, Assassin's Creed, Dr.Mario, even Manhunt, along with the infamous ZOMBIES. But in all that time I've never had a violent outburst. Everytime I heard a news story or read an article about violent behavior amongst our youth, amongst MY generation, it confounded me. I thought " I'm not like that? I'm slow to anger and never physically harm anything". It bothered me so much I had to test it. If I played these games non stop then maybe it really would change me. It was then when I picked up my Xbox controller with the purpose of learning.

I put my self to the test. I played 2 games upwards of +10 hours a day for 2 weeks. Modern Warfare 3 and Black Ops 2 : Zombies. Every match I played on Xbox live with a lobby full of other people. This allowed me to communicate with hundreds of thousands of other gamers

My Results Follow

-Game Time-
When I first started playing MW3 I realized what I didn't know. After many matches I realized.... I sucked. This did make me angry. Constantly getting killed by a gaming peer 20 times in a row. Worse than that, he made it look easy. Anger did fill me. I am very competitive by nature. But I take a step back and say "Play better". This anger was also filled with moments of adrenaline. My resting heart rate stays at 58-70. During game a match it rose 70-90. When I reached pivotal points in the match I found my heart rate between 90-110, sometimes even a tad above.
After one week of playing, the anger in game was no where near as bad, because now I made the killing look easy. A tremendous rise in reflex and skill. I played 60 game hours the previous week so it's true what they say. Practice makes perfect. During the rest of the four weeks I was only angry when I was killed out of no where. It seemed to give me a "jolt" of fear then anger. In every match I did get a slight dopamine burst when I knew how much better I was then who I was playing against. I developed a feeling of grandness. I suppose it's how Kobey Bryant or Lebron James feel on a court.
My relationships between my family and friends was normal. I never rose my voice or had an outburst. All emotions felt at base level. I noticed no different thoughts or actions.

-Post Game-
In the weeks that followed the hours of game play I returned to life as normal. I did not touch a video game for two weeks to balance out my experiment. I noticed no effects from not playing as well. I had a racing thought of "damn I wanna own some kids on mw3" but let it go and continued on with what I was doing.
Still had no outbursts or evil thoughts, and when presented with violence I turned the other cheek.

-Gamers-
During my time playing I had the chance to talk to thousands of different people from everywhere. The general atmosphere would sometimes be trash talking, sometimes bitching, and sometimes joking. Trash talking of the previous match was close. Bitching of you completely beat the other team down. Joking if everyone is *drunk *high *cool. Sometimes I did run into "lonely" people. I say lonely because they would just talk and talk while no one talked back. Just like they wanted some kind of human interaction. I did get a soft spot in my heart for these few. Some would tell me their life story. Some would tell me of their suicide attempts. I have a book full of stories from many many people now.

-Conclusion-
Draw your own

-Questions-
I'm and open book.
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these are the end times

tribulation just around the corner

the BIBle talks about this kind of person rampant in the end times....

prepare and stay safe
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31503468


Yep, curse those who put darkness for light and light for darkness, we are in for scary times when people see good as being evil and evil as being good, we are in for a rough ride, the darkness cometh!
 Quoting: polyphemus75


yep you see it for what is will become

God help human kind

for on that day...

no one rich or poor will be safe
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This society is fucked up.
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it's everywhere man...Africa, Middle East, India, US, Canada, Europe, Australia etc

this planet is fucked up
Imagine if there was no country
Stop the Sabre Rattlings and Wars
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dismembered their penises.

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sick picture...
Imagine if there was no country
Stop the Sabre Rattlings and Wars
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No morals or respect for life those fuckers had. Much like the British.
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The country was built on Christian values.

But more and more, no longer believe in God, and hence no need to stick to these values.

Without a belief in God, morality, is subjective.
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No morals or respect for life those fuckers had. Much like the British.
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.

Without a belief in God, morality, is subjective.
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what a load of HORSESHIT
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No morals or respect for life those fuckers had. Much like the British.
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The country was built on Christian values.

But more and more, no longer believe in God, and hence no need to stick to these values.

Without a belief in God, morality, is subjective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31889090


morality is like talking about stealing from work or something

this goes way beyond that into the dark of total evil and possession

the place were satan is...

evil





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